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Poll
Question: Are you a gamer?
Option 1: Yes, primarily pc games votes: 45
Option 2: Yes, primarily console games votes: 6
Option 3: Yes, primarily board games* votes: 5
Option 4: Yes, primarily play something else(explain below) votes: 1
Option 5: Not anymore votes: 1
Option 6: No votes: 1
Option 7: I play Jaron like a guitar. He's quite ticklish. votes: 3
Title: Gaming
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 26, 2009, 11:06:21 PM
*Sorry, Monopoly, Clue and Hungry Hungry Hippo don't count for purposes of this poll. Reasonably complex games only.

Edit- Board games played online where there's no AI involved and the computer isn't integral to the design of the game should be classified as board games rather than pc games.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Monoriu on October 26, 2009, 11:09:33 PM
Primarily PC, but I also play console. 
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on October 26, 2009, 11:15:51 PM
Primarily PC. Sometimes I play console games on emulators, but nothing newer than PSX.
I'm not as much of a gamer as I used to be. I find myself buying games, playing them just a little bit, then they collect dust as I end up busy with other things.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Pat on October 26, 2009, 11:17:43 PM
PC, though sometimes I hook my laptop to my TV and play emulated console games on it with a USB-game pad.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 26, 2009, 11:25:55 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 26, 2009, 11:06:21 PM
Hungry Hungry Hippo don't count for purposes of this poll.

My 3 year old and 6 year old nieces respectfully disagree.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: dps on October 26, 2009, 11:28:26 PM
My primary interest is board wargames, but right now I don't really have the space to set up much of anything, so I mostly play computer games.  I don't own a console system, and have no interest in acquiring one.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: katmai on October 26, 2009, 11:32:27 PM
I play equally between PC and Console, my boardtop wargames are collecting dust...like seedys are.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 26, 2009, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: katmai on October 26, 2009, 11:32:27 PM
I play equally between PC and Console, my boardtop wargames are collecting dust...like seedys are.

NOT SO FAST, MY FRIEND  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: DGuller on October 27, 2009, 12:16:52 AM
PC only.  I find console games to be lacking in depth, although I've never tried them.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Razgovory on October 27, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
Only PC games.  I weep at the dying of the PC market.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: DisturbedPervert on October 27, 2009, 12:35:21 AM
Play PC games the most, but I also have a PS2, DS, and Wii that I enjoy.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Capetan Mihali on October 27, 2009, 01:13:03 AM
I don't play any computer, video, or board games.  EU2, Sim City, and Age of Empires II were the only games I ever played with any seriousness.  I bought Victoria but I think I lost something in attention span for games along the way.   :(
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Alatriste on October 27, 2009, 02:23:37 AM
50% PC, 50% console but usually in long alternating spells. I spent months playing almost exclusively Civ IV in the PC, then months with Oblivion in the PS3 (my DVD died, by the way... strange small cracks radiating from the center). Now I plan to spend some weeks playing Suikoden V in my old, trusty PS2. 
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: BVN on October 27, 2009, 03:59:59 AM
PC-gamer. Always have been.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: The Larch on October 27, 2009, 04:12:11 AM
Board games, mostly. I'm blessed to have a stable gaming group, and we enjoy trying new games constantly.

Now, next time I upgrade my PC things may change...
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 04:19:22 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 27, 2009, 12:16:52 AM
PC only. I find console games to be lacking in depth, although I've never tried them.

:lol:

Granted, many (most?) console games still build on the old arcade paradigm of simplicity over depth, but that statement is hilarious in so many ways.  :P
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 04:22:20 AM
I'm a PC gamer by necessity, not really by choice. I've always preferred table-top gaming whether it be RPG or board games but it's been more and more difficult as time goes by. Possibly because I've gotten more and more lazy. I've had plenty of opportunities to play board games with Viking here in Trondheim, for instance, but when I have the choice between sitting my ass down in my sofa and actually dragging myself over to whatever locale they're playing in, the sofa has a strange and mystical gravitational pull.  :blush:
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Grey Fox on October 27, 2009, 06:43:58 AM
I'm a gamer. I prefer PC games but one of these days I'll buy a new console.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Brazen on October 27, 2009, 07:15:43 AM
Barely played anything of any variety since I got my own place. There's a board games group (proper gamer's games) at work, but I really can't be arsed.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: grumbler on October 27, 2009, 09:45:15 AM
What a strange question to ask on this forum.  :huh:

"Are you a gamer?"  How many "no" answers would one expect?  How could the answer to this question possibly be significant?
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Ed Anger on October 27, 2009, 10:20:55 AM
I've been moving away from PC and console games. Haven't left them completely, but looking at the PC and Console shelf at the Best Buy makes me go meh.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Valmy on October 27, 2009, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 27, 2009, 10:20:55 AM
I've been moving away from PC and console games. Haven't left them completely, but looking at the PC and Console shelf at the Best Buy makes me go meh.

Yep.  There tends to only be a small number of games I want to play...which I suppose works out since I do not really have time to play very many these days.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Ed Anger on October 27, 2009, 10:27:38 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 27, 2009, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 27, 2009, 10:20:55 AM
I've been moving away from PC and console games. Haven't left them completely, but looking at the PC and Console shelf at the Best Buy makes me go meh.

Yep.  There tends to only be a small number of games I want to play...which I suppose works out since I do not really have time to play very many these days.

That is why for the past month, I've been playing Team Fortress 2 in 15-30 minute bursts.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Brazen on October 27, 2009, 10:45:36 AM
From today, Sky TV is available through XBox Live without a dish, which may tempt me to use it more.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Siege on October 27, 2009, 11:58:51 AM
I don't have much time for gaming, but when I do is exclusively PC games.

Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Eddie Teach on October 27, 2009, 12:16:06 PM
Quote from: grumbler on October 27, 2009, 09:45:15 AM
What a strange question to ask on this forum.  :huh:

"Are you a gamer?"  How many "no" answers would one expect?  How could the answer to this question possibly be significant?

Because many of us played EU2 or HOI 7-8 years ago I should assume nothing's changed?

As for significance, this is the internet.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: saskganesh on October 27, 2009, 12:27:36 PM
largely PC but semi-regularly play board and old school pen and paper.

I am console and online gaming adverse.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 12:33:24 PM
Quote from: grumbler on October 27, 2009, 09:45:15 AM
What a strange question to ask on this forum.  :huh:

"Are you a gamer?"  How many "no" answers would one expect?  How could the answer to this question possibly be significant?

It's a pertinent question. I thought pretty much the same thing when I first read it, but then I stopped to think and realized that I spend a lot less time gaming now than I did 8 years ago, so it's certainly relevant.

Though I guess a more interesting excersise would be to make this a multiple question poll and have everyone retake it every year or so, to see how we develop as a society.  :cool:
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 04:19:22 AM
Granted, many (most?) console games still build on the old arcade paradigm of simplicity over depth, but that statement is hilarious in so many ways.  :P
Not so much. One doesn't have to play a game to decide it isn't going to be interesting. I feel the same way, and would add to that the majority of PC games. The difference is that there are a few PC games that are enjoyable while I've never seen a console game that looked like it would hold my interest. Especially when it would have to justify the cost of a whole new system as well.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 12:45:47 PM
Quote from: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 12:40:17 PM
Quote from: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 04:19:22 AM
Granted, many (most?) console games still build on the old arcade paradigm of simplicity over depth, but that statement is hilarious in so many ways.  :P
Not so much. One doesn't have to play a game to decide it isn't going to be interesting. I feel the same way, and would add to that the majority of PC games. The difference is that there are a few PC games that are enjoyable while I've never seen a console game that looked like it would hold my interest. Especially when it would have to justify the cost of a whole new system as well.

If you haven't tried it, you cannot possibly make a credible statement that there is no console game with depth.

There are plenty of console titles with a depth comparable to similar PC titles. The fact that the platform doesn't lend itself to wargames doesn't change that.

That you don't like consoles is fine, but making claims as to the content of console games when you haven't tried them is ludicrous.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on October 27, 2009, 12:47:30 PM
Mostly Table Top RPGs these days. I have a Regular Mutants & masterminds game and a semi regular D&D game (3.5) (just getting started on a new campaign in that one... it may peter out like previous ones.

I sometimes play ps2 games. Am sorely tempted to buy Civ IV for mac, but then when will I do anything but play Civ IV, that shit is like crack for me.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Syt on October 27, 2009, 12:48:45 PM
Mostly PC, bits of console. These days I try to limit by games budget and most of the time I buy games that are available online from independent publishers/devs. The occasional "big name" is in between (Total War, Bioware, etc.).
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 12:52:52 PM
Quote from: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 12:45:47 PM
If you haven't tried it, you cannot possibly make a credible statement that there is no console game with depth.

There are plenty of console titles with a depth comparable to similar PC titles. The fact that the platform doesn't lend itself to wargames doesn't change that.

That you don't like consoles is fine, but making claims as to the content of console games when you haven't tried them is ludicrous.
I guess you must buy every game that comes out then. How could you possibly decide whether you like it or not until you've tried it.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: lustindarkness on October 27, 2009, 12:57:05 PM
"Yes, primarily console games."

I no longer play PC games, the mouse killed my hands. I shoot teenage scum on the PS3 (COD4/5 and upcoming MW2) or the simpler (no excesive micromanaging) CivRev. Little Big Planet can also be fun. I do miss modding games though.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 12:59:11 PM
Quote from: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 12:52:52 PM
Quote from: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 12:45:47 PM
If you haven't tried it, you cannot possibly make a credible statement that there is no console game with depth.

There are plenty of console titles with a depth comparable to similar PC titles. The fact that the platform doesn't lend itself to wargames doesn't change that.

That you don't like consoles is fine, but making claims as to the content of console games when you haven't tried them is ludicrous.
I guess you must buy every game that comes out then. How could you possibly decide whether you like it or not until you've tried it.

Of course not. I can make a judgement call as to whether I believe I will derive enjoyment out of a title.

What I cannot do, however, is declare that all console titles lack depth since then I WOULD have to try them all or at least enough to find one with "depth".

Hell, I can't even claim that all arabs are horrible people since A) I haven't met all of them B) I've probably met one or two I wouldn't want to stick in a meatgrinder. And I decidedly loathe arabs.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 01:16:28 PM
Ah, so I can decide, without playing, whether or not a game will be enjoyable, but not whether it has depth. Any other special rules I need to know about?
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 01:25:30 PM
Quote from: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 01:16:28 PM
Ah, so I can decide, without playing, whether or not a game will be enjoyable, but not whether it has depth. Any other special rules I need to know about?

Now you're just being obtuse.

How can you possibly know the depth or lack thereof in ALL console titles without trying them out?
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 01:27:58 PM
I don't know. That would be an interesting question, assuming you could find someone who claimed they knew such a thing.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 01:34:34 PM
Quote from: DGuller on October 27, 2009, 12:16:52 AM
PC only.  I find console games to be lacking in depth, although I've never tried them.

And since you ran to the defense of Guller in my critique of his position, you by fiat assume his position.

Check. Mate. Stop being a dick.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 01:40:30 PM
Quote from: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 01:34:34 PM
And since you ran to the defense of Guller in my critique of his position, you by fiat assume his position.
What utter bollocks.
Quote from: DGuller on October 27, 2009, 12:16:52 AM
PC only.  I find console games to be lacking in depth, although I've never tried them.
"I find X to be Y" does not mean "all X are absolutely Y". It is conditional upon one's observations and experiences.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 01:40:30 PM
Quote from: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 01:34:34 PM
And since you ran to the defense of Guller in my critique of his position, you by fiat assume his position.
What utter bollocks.
Quote from: DGuller on October 27, 2009, 12:16:52 AM
PC only.  I find console games to be lacking in depth, although I've never tried them.
"I find X to be Y" does not mean "all X are absolutely Y". It is conditional upon one's observations and experiences.

Since he's already quantified his experience with console games as effectively zero, how is it possible to make that judgement other than by hearsay and prejudice?
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
Why does it matter? His claim only applies as far as he has experiences and observations.

For myself, reading about and watching others play them was enough.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Slargos on October 27, 2009, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: Maximus on October 27, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
Why does it matter? His claim only applies as far as he has experiences and observations.

For myself, reading about and watching others play them was enough.

It's your loss.

Disqualifying console titles because "they lack depth" when it is clear that it is not the case for all of them is nonsensical.

Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: lustindarkness on October 27, 2009, 03:10:24 PM
I download demos on the PSN all the time before I decide if I spend my money.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: The Brain on October 27, 2009, 05:11:45 PM
PC, board games, RPGs. Some console.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: Martinus on October 27, 2009, 05:14:49 PM
I chose the "something else" option. While it is not entirely true (I probably spend more time playing pc games nonetheless), I chose it because I like to be special :P.

What I play is a pen-and-paper rpg over the net with a bunch of friends. Right now I am a player in a modern Mage the Ascension game and I am running (as a Storyteller) a Roman-era Vampire the Requiem game. We usually play one evening a week (for each game) plus we often run minisessions whenever people are around on mirc/MSN, more often.
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: DontSayBanana on October 27, 2009, 05:30:22 PM
Mostly on PC.  I play a few PC-only puzzle games, but mostly I play multi-platform offerings like GTA or older emulated console/handheld games (a lot of GameBoy games, actually).
Title: Re: Gaming
Post by: FunkMonk on October 27, 2009, 06:54:41 PM
I'm a player.