Now that I'm working again and reaping mass profits, I'm thinking of replacing my broke ass pc once a couple minor debts of mine are cleared. :)
I want a pc that is capable of playing games so I can play all the games I'm missing out on while i'm on a lap top! I do not want a Mac.
I am thinking of ordering a Dell , as my last pc was a Dell and I was pretty happy with it..
I would not like to spend more than 1500.00. That is my soft limit, I'd only go higher out of necessity. I'm looking for performance, flexibility and durability. Building my own pc is not an option, I'm not tech savvy like that.
They just refreshed the iMac. You can get a very nice one that will play all your games (through bootcamp) for $1500.
Quote from: Barrister on October 21, 2009, 01:13:00 PM
They just refreshed the iMac. You can get a very nice one that will play all your games (through bootcamp) for $1500.
Quote from: JaronI do not want a Mac.
He may not want a Mac, but he needs a Mac. :contract:
:lol:
Oh content: Jaron, if you were happy with your last Dell, get another one of those. Just glancing at the Dell website, there's something called a Studio XPS 9000 that looks okay.
vOv http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/desktops/desktop-studio-xps-9000/pd.aspx?refid=desktop-studio-xps-9000&s=dhs&cs=19&ref=dthp
Looks like that one for $1299 comes with a monitor, so if you don't need that, look at one of the ones without that, and put in a bunch of extra options or something. Case looks kinda goofy imo, but then again, it looks better than that Alienware shit. Looks like you can add in 2GB more memory and stick a GTS 240 into that $1299 one, and the price comes out to $1479.
The problem with Dell custom build is that you get it deep in your colon when you add a good video card. The mark-up is just ridiculous. However, if you don't add a good video card, you probably won't have enough space in the unit to add one yourself later on.
Quote from: derspiess on October 21, 2009, 03:27:00 PM
Why, now that's a bargain in this day & age :lol:
:lol: :yes:
Beeb, try building a PC sometime and get back to us re: cost vs. specs/quality. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on October 21, 2009, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 21, 2009, 03:27:00 PM
Why, now that's a bargain in this day & age :lol:
:lol: :yes:
Beeb, try building a PC sometime and get back to us re: cost vs. specs/quality. :cool:
I removed my post when I re-read Jaron's post & saw his $1500.00 price limit :blush:
Quote from: Caliga on October 21, 2009, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 21, 2009, 03:27:00 PM
Why, now that's a bargain in this day & age :lol:
:lol: :yes:
Beeb, try building a PC sometime and get back to us re: cost vs. specs/quality. :cool:
First, what happened to derspeiss's post? :huh:
Second, $1500 was Jaron's price-point, not mine. :contract:
Third, do we really need to have this debate AGAIN? Look: Apple has a fairly small product line-up. It's offerings are very price competitive when comparing apples to apples (for the iMac, that means comparing it to similarily specced All-in-One computers). But yes, given the form factor you can buy a tower computer for less than an all-in-one like the iMac.
Ok, I'm sorry, I misunderstood. :Embarrass:
Quote from: derspiess on October 21, 2009, 03:30:38 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 21, 2009, 03:27:59 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 21, 2009, 03:27:00 PM
Why, now that's a bargain in this day & age :lol:
:lol: :yes:
Beeb, try building a PC sometime and get back to us re: cost vs. specs/quality. :cool:
I removed my post when I re-read Jaron's post & saw his $1500.00 price limit :blush:
:smarty:
Macs are still overpriced & gay-looking.
So...
I'm considering an iMac... :unsure:
How are macs on durability, that is - longevity?
Will it be unable to play some games?
Quote from: Jaron on October 21, 2009, 07:38:27 PM
So...
I'm considering an iMac... :unsure:
How are macs on durability, that is - longevity?
Will it be unable to play some games?
You wouldn't be toying with me would you Jaron? You wouldn't play with my emotions now would you? :cry:
Quote from: Barrister on October 21, 2009, 08:11:16 PM
Quote from: Jaron on October 21, 2009, 07:38:27 PM
So...
I'm considering an iMac... :unsure:
How are macs on durability, that is - longevity?
Will it be unable to play some games?
You wouldn't be toying with me would you Jaron? You wouldn't play with my emotions now would you? :cry:
Oh, I think it'd be fucking brilliant if Jaronisimo became a Mac owner.
So J-dawg, hardware reliability is hard to measure. Nobody keeps stats on the actual rate of failure between various computing devices. So what does wind up getting measured is various customer satisfaction surveys, rates of complaints, that kind of thing.
On all those measures, Apple is either #1 or close to it.
Here's a basic google search for you to likely confirm that:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=pc+vs+mac+reliability&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
But of course you will find someone out there for every computer manufacturer that has had a bad experience. Apple is included in that.
As for games:
WoW works great on a Mac. Of recent games Sims 3 and Spore came out in Mac versions.
However most games do NOT come out for Mac.
Since Mac moved over to Intel 3-4 years ago Apple came out with Bootcamp - you can dual-boot your computer into Windows (You have to buy your own copy of Windows however to do this). My mac is set up this way. I can play any Windows game by rebooting into XP, then playing as normal.
I saw the number of replies to this thread and I was all :w00t:
Then I saw it was like 7 posts of BBs mac pimping and I was :rolleyes:
Then I actually went and looked at the mac site.
And now I am..
:mmm:
IF you can spend $1700 you can get the ginormous 27" iMac... :wub:
Its something I'm going to have to wait for and save some money up for, but I can see what Jaron's gift to Jaron is going to be this year for Christmas. :wub:
I'm quite excited about this prospect, but Tamas is trying hard to talk me out of it. He says its overpriced and the praise of the Apple system is just fed by fanbois and not based on reality.
However
My very limited research has been very positive.
I am thinking I'll try a mac out this time. I'm going to just tuck some money away until december or so. :)
Any other tips?
I don't like Dell and I think companies like Alienware charge more for the visual than the substantial.
Quote from: Jaron on October 22, 2009, 04:41:23 AM
I don't like Dell and I think companies like Alienware charge more for the visual than the substantial.
:yes: *NEVER* buy Alienware unless you enjoy flushing money down the toilet.
Jman, if you think your family doesn't like you now, Wait until you own a gay computer!
nobody like me. :(
Quote from: Caliga on October 22, 2009, 05:51:51 AM
Quote from: Jaron on October 22, 2009, 04:41:23 AM
I don't like Dell and I think companies like Alienware charge more for the visual than the substantial.
:yes: *NEVER* buy Alienware unless you enjoy flushing money down the toilet.
Well, that certainly sounds enjoyable, but it has got to be sinful somehow.
J., I would expect until someone checks Boot Camp works with Windows 7. But I'm sure we will know that soon, certainly before Christmas.
Dude from 1700$ you can buy a PC which blows anything away and you wouldn't have to tackle compatibility issues and shit.
Quote from: Barrister on October 21, 2009, 01:15:56 PM
He may not want a Mac, but he needs a Mac. :contract:
well-played.
Quote from: Jaron on October 22, 2009, 04:41:23 AM
I'm quite excited about this prospect, but Tamas is trying hard to talk me out of it. He says its overpriced and the praise of the Apple system is just fed by fanbois and not based on reality.
However
My very limited research has been very positive.
I am thinking I'll try a mac out this time. I'm going to just tuck some money away until december or so. :)
Any other tips?
I don't like Dell and I think companies like Alienware charge more for the visual than the substantial.
Remember to include the price of Windows 7 in your specs. You don't
need OS X but you need Windows.
I think that if you are buying a computer out of the box, it only makes sense to keep Macintosh computers in mind. It may not win out in cost-effectiveness for you in the end (I think that Macs seldom win out on that basis except for those using its graphics, video, or musical capabilities), but it certainly shouldn't be dismissed out of hand. Just remember to factor in the cost of Windows, and the fact that software will be about 10-20% more expensive (Acrobat 9 Pro at $395 MSRP for Mac, $368 for Windows, for example).
Anti-Mac spiel aside, there's pros and cons to both; PCs break down more but when Macs die, they crash spectacularly. Part of the price point is that Mac comes bundled with easier-to-use, higher-power applications (GarageBand versus Sound Recorder, for example). You're less likely to have to worry constantly about viruses or malware because of differences in architecture, but on the other hand, programs would usually come out cheaper for Windows much sooner than they come out for Mac.
Oh, and a quick note- if you do a lot of typing, the aluminum Mac keyboards are much easier on the hands- when I was working for a local phonebook, I updated my iMac with one of the newer keyboards and kept it to use for my PC after I gave the iMac back to the company.
Quote from: JaronI do not want a Mac.
Quote from: JaronI am thinking of ordering a Dell , as my last pc was a Dell and I was pretty happy with it..
Quote from: JaronI am thinking I'll try a mac out this time.
Quote from: JaronI don't like Dell
:lol:
Quote from: DontSayBananaOh, and a quick note- if you do a lot of typing, the aluminum Mac keyboards are much easier on the hands- when I was working for a local phonebook, I updated my iMac with one of the newer keyboards and kept it to use for my PC after I gave the iMac back to the company.
Yeah those keyboards are nice.
Quote from: Jaron on October 22, 2009, 04:41:23 AMI think companies like Alienware charge more for the visual than the substantial.
Good thing you're going with Apple
I'll build you one Jman.
Really? :D
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 22, 2009, 10:07:36 AM
Quote from: Jaron on October 22, 2009, 04:41:23 AMI think companies like Alienware charge more for the visual than the substantial.
Good thing you're going with Apple
:face:
I've been using Dell for the past 12 years or so. Every one of my computer since then has been a Dell. I am: a happy customer.
Do not fall to the dark side :weep:
In the world of computers there's only dark sides.
I'm installing Windows 7 on my Imac right now, ill let you know how it works.
Quote from: Threviel on October 26, 2009, 10:11:49 AM
I'm installing Windows 7 on my Imac right now, ill let you know how it works.
We'll assume the worst if we don't hear from you soon.
Quote from: DGuller on October 26, 2009, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Threviel on October 26, 2009, 10:11:49 AM
I'm installing Windows 7 on my Imac right now, ill let you know how it works.
We'll assume the worst if we don't hear from you soon.
Damn, Windows 7 is sweet. I've just installed it and updated my drivers.
Now to finding something to become irritated with.
Try the "classic" control panel.
:lol:
So, several months of working and pinching pennies have paid off and my credit card debt is eliminated.
Now daddy wants to reward himself with a new gaming pc.
Any recommendations? I'd like to spend less than 2000 but primarly I want a flexible system that I can play games and watch porn on. Everything else is optional.
I'd be willing to possibly shell out more for a mac but only if a regular pc can't do the things I need it to do.
Please advise and keep the "build it yourself" comments to yourself. I'm not doing that, I just want to open the box and set it up.
Quote from: Jaron on February 05, 2010, 04:36:21 PM
I'd be willing to possibly shell out more for a mac but only if a regular pc can't do the things I need it to do.
Sorry J, there's nothing that a Windows PC "can't do".
A Mac tends to be much smoother and cleaner than a PC in my experience, but I can't point to something that a Mac does and say "see, no PC can do that". -_-
Quote from: Jaron on February 05, 2010, 04:36:21 PM
Please advise and keep the "build it yourself" comments to yourself. I'm not doing that, I just want to open the box and set it up.
But, but ... that's half the fun. :cry:
hmm... Dell . . . or Mac? DECISIONS. DECISIONS. :homestar:
I'd go for Dell, but my view might be slightly distorted by the fact that we buy mostly workstations and other professional equipment from them, which is obviously more reliable (and pricy) than normal computers. And since we buy stuff for tens of thousands € every few months, they tend to be extraordinarily eager to fix any mishap. I suspect it may not be that easy for your regular guy. :P
Quote from: Jaron on February 05, 2010, 05:48:09 PM
hmm... Dell . . . or Mac? DECISIONS. DECISIONS. :homestar:
See if you can buy your computer from a manufacturer that doesn't load the computer down with crapware.
I know MS stores do that, and Sony does (I think), but not Dell.
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 06:19:30 PM
See if you can buy your computer from a manufacturer that doesn't load the computer down with crapware.
The first thing you should do with a computer is partition the drive and start from scratch anyway.
Quote from: Iormlund on February 05, 2010, 06:46:39 PM
Quote from: Barrister on February 05, 2010, 06:19:30 PM
See if you can buy your computer from a manufacturer that doesn't load the computer down with crapware.
The first thing you should do with a computer is partition the drive and start from scratch anyway.
J-dawg seems to want a plug-in-and-go computer.
By the way, I think one of the biggest selling points for Macs is actually the simple fact they have no crapware. People don't buy 'em for that reason, but it's what helps make using a Mac seem so much cleaner.
I'll build you one J-dawg. My fee is 100$
I'd take you up on it if you didn't live so far away.
Nowadays, given what I stated what I want my pc to do, is there really such thing as ordering a computer that is too powerful?.
I mean just tinkering around on computer sites, I've seen some options that jack your costs up a thousand dollars alone for a single hardware component.
What I'm aiming for is a computer that does exactly what I need (mostly games, and I play mostly mmos nowadays) and is upgradable in the future should I need it, but isnt so powerful it can fit my needs with one hand behind its back.
Or in other words: I don't want to spend more than I absolutely need to.
If the speed limit is 65, I don't need a car that can consistently push 110.
Dig?
Unless you do terribly demanding stuff (rendering, number crunching) a suitable setup will be dirt cheap. And yes, there is such a thing as too powerful a computer. For example, BB's 10 Gb of fully-buffered goodness is quite excessive for 99.99999% of users.
Any suggestions on what specs to shoot for if all i want it to do is office and internet functions and play pc games?
I've been playing with some setups but the 2000k+ price tags have me feeling like I'm putting too much extra OOMPH into this.
Quote from: Iormlund on February 07, 2010, 03:48:12 PM
Unless you do terribly demanding stuff (rendering, number crunching) a suitable setup will be dirt cheap. And yes, there is such a thing as too powerful a computer. For example, BB's 10 Gb of fully-buffered goodness is quite excessive for 99.99999% of users.
:showoff:
Quote from: Barrister on February 08, 2010, 01:14:22 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on February 07, 2010, 03:48:12 PM
Unless you do terribly demanding stuff (rendering, number crunching) a suitable setup will be dirt cheap. And yes, there is such a thing as too powerful a computer. For example, BB's 10 Gb of fully-buffered goodness is quite excessive for 99.99999% of users.
:showoff:
I've been meaning to ask, do you ever actually use the Mac Pro for its intended purpose as a single-unit render farm?
Mac Hijack <_<
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 08, 2010, 01:23:54 AM
Quote from: Barrister on February 08, 2010, 01:14:22 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on February 07, 2010, 03:48:12 PM
Unless you do terribly demanding stuff (rendering, number crunching) a suitable setup will be dirt cheap. And yes, there is such a thing as too powerful a computer. For example, BB's 10 Gb of fully-buffered goodness is quite excessive for 99.99999% of users.
:showoff:
I've been meaning to ask, do you ever actually use the Mac Pro for its intended purpose as a single-unit render farm?
Nope. I bought it because it was the only open case, expandable Mac.
In the 2 years since though iMacs have gotten much better video chips, so I'd probably have gone with an iMac if buying today.
But still it's nice - I expect a new Mac Pro model in a month or two, and with it probably a new video card. I may well order that new video card, which I wouldn't be able to do with an iMac.
Quote from: Jaron on February 07, 2010, 03:50:25 PM
Any suggestions on what specs to shoot for if all i want it to do is office and internet functions and play pc games?
I've been playing with some setups but the 2000k+ price tags have me feeling like I'm putting too much extra OOMPH into this.
Usually the sweet spot is around 100 bucks. 100 for a mobo, 100 for a CPU, 100 for a GPU. AMD tends to offer more value for money. Good mobo brands: Gygabyte, Asus, Abit, ... As for memory, 4 gigs is more than enough for the average guy, who will rarely if ever use an app that needs 64bit (once again, rendering, number crunching ...).
I tend to spend more than most in a good case (I live in a warm country) and a good power supply (Seasonic, Corsair ...). And a lot more than most in monitors - I've got two Dell 2009FP, 1600x1200 IPS-panel goodness and I'm eyeing their new 2560x1440. Not cheap, though.
My friend recommended this build, any comments on it?
Quote
PROCESSORS Intel® Core™ i5-650 processor(4MB Cache, 3.20GHz) edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English edit
MEMORY 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMs edit
VIDEO CARD ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB DDR3 edit
HARD DRIVE 500GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache edit
OPTICAL DRIVE 16X DVD+/-RW Drive edit
I trimmed out some of the stuff I didnt think would be of interest, but if anything crucial was left off lemme know. ;)
more RAM, less ATI
I agree with the Fox.
Less ATI as in avoid the brand alltogether or use a weaker card?
Quote from: Jaron on February 13, 2010, 08:15:50 PM
Less ATI as in avoid the brand alltogether or use a weaker card?
I haven't had good experiences with ATI, so as in avoid it.
HMM I could go with a nVidia GeForce GTS240 1024MB GDDR3 :mmm: ? :S
I can't believe 4GB of Ram isn't enough though!! My old gateway had 128 and I thought it was blazing fast. :P
When i build my next pc (probably this fall) 4gb is the minimum I'd have in it.
How much do you tend to sink into a new pc ?
My usual MO is the more I spend the better a system I've gotten so I'm currently stuck between saving up to get every bell and whistle I can afford, or exploring the possibility that I can get what I want out of a new pc without checking every single option at the checkout menu. :P
Quote from: Jaron on February 13, 2010, 08:46:22 PM
How much do you tend to sink into a new pc ?
My usual MO is the more I spend the better a system I've gotten so I'm currently stuck between saving up to get every bell and whistle I can afford, or exploring the possibility that I can get what I want out of a new pc without checking every single option at the checkout menu. :P
I usually spend about $800-1,000 bucks and then over the years upgrade ( I bought the PC i'm typing this on in 2006, and i've added HD, Video Card twice and memory since purchase)
We gots to get ready for more WoW!!!! :w00t:
Quote from: Jaron on February 13, 2010, 08:50:43 PM
We gots to get ready for more WoW!!!! :w00t:
Nah i think i'm WoW'd out.
Yeah, me too. :P
The game will be a half a decade old this year. :o
Quote from: Jaron on February 13, 2010, 08:56:27 PM
Yeah, me too. :P
The game will be a half a decade old this year. :o
Uh actually last Nov iirc. City of Heroes came out in April of '04 and I spent all my time that summer playing it with Camper, Fahdizzle, and DocDoom and Galrion.
I remember our guildies talking about checking out WoW when it was coming out that holidays and me saying no thanks, no interest in playing elves and dwarves. :lol:
Oh yeah, you're right. It did come out in '04!
I remember Berkut talking all kinds of smack about that "cartoon game" everyone was playing while he was on EQ2. of course the next year he and Bakkito were way into it. :yuk:
Quote from: Jaron on February 13, 2010, 09:02:45 PM
Oh yeah, you're right. It did come out in '04!
I remember Berkut talking all kinds of smack about that "cartoon game" everyone was playing while he was on EQ2. of course the next year he and Bakkito were way into it. :yuk:
It's all his fault we were on the 'hoof. Oh sure he'll try to pass blame on CdM...
Lets GO for it people!
Quote from: Jaron on February 13, 2010, 08:15:50 PM
Less ATI as in avoid the brand alltogether or use a weaker card?
Grey Fox and Katmai's brand loyalty aside, you probably shouldn't be looking at that first ATi card, unless you're going for a "budget" card, and just absolutely can't spend more than the $50 or $60 that that card costs. I don't believe ATi actually makes a weaker DX11 card than the 5450, and you can really do a lot better for not much cash. A GTS 250 or a 4850 would both be better for a little more.
They both get good reviews, by the way.
Or if you must have DX11 for whatever reason, the 5770 isn't a whole lot more than those. $160 - $190 or so on Newegg. I don't think nVidia has a DX11 card out yet. It's supposed to be pretty damn fast though when it does.
How's this for ~1000 euros? :huh:
PSU: Recom M600 600 Watt
Motherboard: MSI P55-GD65
Processor: Intel Core i5 750
Cooler: Intel Boxed
Video: PowerColor Radeon HD 5850 1 GB
Audio: 7.1 onboard
Network: Gigabit LAN onboard
Memory: 8 GB DDR3 1333 MHz (4x 2 GB)
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F2 EcoGreen 1.5 TB (SATA II)
CD/DVD: NEC AD-7240S DVD-rewriter
Microsoft Windows 7 Home 64-bit (OEM)
Quote from: Maladict on February 17, 2010, 11:24:02 AM
How's this for ~1000 euros? :huh:
PSU: Recom M600 600 Watt
Motherboard: MSI P55-GD65
Processor: Intel Core i5 750
Cooler: Intel Boxed
Video: PowerColor Radeon HD 5850 1 GB
Audio: 7.1 onboard
Network: Gigabit LAN onboard
Memory: 8 GB DDR3 1333 MHz (4x 2 GB)
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F2 EcoGreen 1.5 TB (SATA II)
CD/DVD: NEC AD-7240S DVD-rewriter
Microsoft Windows 7 Home 64-bit (OEM)
Looks good to me. I was looking at doing something similar, but then figured it might be a bit overkill since I'm not doing much PC gaming these days. I might bump mine down to a Core i3 processor & go with 4 or 6GB RAM. I'm fairly agnostic regarding video cards, but I want something that does a solid job processing HD video.
Quote from: Maladict on February 17, 2010, 11:24:02 AM
How's this for ~1000 euros? :huh:
PSU: Recom M600 600 Watt
Motherboard: MSI P55-GD65
Processor: Intel Core i5 750
Cooler: Intel Boxed
Video: PowerColor Radeon HD 5850 1 GB
Audio: 7.1 onboard
Network: Gigabit LAN onboard
Memory: 8 GB DDR3 1333 MHz (4x 2 GB)
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F2 EcoGreen 1.5 TB (SATA II)
CD/DVD: NEC AD-7240S DVD-rewriter
Microsoft Windows 7 Home 64-bit (OEM)
:o Warning! Warning! Danger, Will Robinson!
If you must go with a cheapie ATI card, you may want to try a Sapphire; PowerColor keeps their costs down by skimping on cooling, so their cards tend to overheat pretty frequently.
I've gotten away with a PowerColor X1650 Pro in my Compaq, but only because it was a fairly cold computer to start with; the X1650 probably spiked the board temperature a good 7-8 degrees Celsius- if it was any hotter, I'd have to go out and get a card cooler to run it.
And yes, ATI cards running on the hot side are prone to the "black squares" issue.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 18, 2010, 10:17:55 PM
:o Warning! Warning! Danger, Will Robinson!
If you must go with a cheapie ATI card, you may want to try a Sapphire; PowerColor keeps their costs down by skimping on cooling, so their cards tend to overheat pretty frequently.
I've gotten away with a PowerColor X1650 Pro in my Compaq, but only because it was a fairly cold computer to start with; the X1650 probably spiked the board temperature a good 7-8 degrees Celsius- if it was any hotter, I'd have to go out and get a card cooler to run it.
And yes, ATI cards running on the hot side are prone to the "black squares" issue.
Really? It's not a cheap card (300 euros).
Must say I've only been looking at benchmark numbers, not user reviews.
I'd better ask some questions when I go check it out tomorrow. There migt already be a cooler built in.
But the card isn't bad performance-wise, is it?
Quote from: Maladict on February 19, 2010, 04:04:59 AM
Really? It's not a cheap card (300 euros).
Must say I've only been looking at benchmark numbers, not user reviews.
I'd better ask some questions when I go check it out tomorrow. There migt already be a cooler built in.
But the card isn't bad performance-wise, is it?
The 5850 has gotten good reviews all around, even the PowerColor version (its been kind of a shitty brand in the past, but they did get it right sometimes).
And yeah, there will be a cooling fan and such built onto it. Probably with some stupid ass design on it that you, luckily, won't have to look at, since it's inside your case.
Edit: Hey they one on newegg doesn't have some silly anime or whatever design on it at all. Just looks...bulky...like they all seem to now.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 19, 2010, 04:31:30 AM
Probably with some stupid ass design on it that you, luckily, won't have to look at, since it's inside your case.
Yes, it looks pretty horrible, good thing I'll probably never open the case.
Quote from: Maladict on February 19, 2010, 04:51:06 AM
Yes, it looks pretty horrible, good thing I'll probably never open the case.
You pick the new machine up yet?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 27, 2010, 03:49:19 AM
You pick the new machine up yet?
No, still vacillating. I've been hearing rumors the store is about to go under.
Maybe I'll splurge and get a Pavilion HPE-120 or HPE-140 instead. :hmm:
Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bits
Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 860
Intel® H57 PCH
HPE-120: 6 GB DDR3
HPE-140: 8 GB DDR3
4 DIMM-sockets
HPE-120: 2-TB (2 x 1 TB) SATA 3G HDD (5400-rpm)
HPE-140: 3-TB (2 x 1,5 TB) SATA 3G HDD (5400-rpm)
Blu-ray ROM drive
SuperMulti dvd-rw player (LightScribe)
HPE-140: NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 230 met PureVideo® HD technologie
HPE-140: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 260 Special Edition
15-1 card reader
TV-tuner +remote control
Wireless LAN 802.11 b/g/n PCI-Ex1 minikaart
3 yr pick-up en return service
No, I went back to my original plan and ordered the i5.
Had to scale back the GPU from a 5850 to a 5770 as they were out of stock, bu I got a nice price reduction out of it.
Gaming commences in T minus 6 days. :cool:
...and the fucking thing has broken down in less than two weeks. <_<
Well, you have your "3 yr pick-up en return service" that you probably paid a hefty premium for, though. :)
Personally I prefer to build my own PCs with high quality parts so that I wouldn't need such a service even if I could get one as a DIYer. :)
Quote from: Caliga on March 24, 2010, 05:14:58 AM
Well, you have your "3 yr pick-up en return service" that you probably paid a hefty premium for, though. :)
Personally I prefer to build my own PCs with high quality parts so that I wouldn't need such a service even if I could get one as a DIYer. :)
No, that was included with the HP I didn't buy in the end as it wasn't available and too expensive.
I do have a 3 year "bring it in yourself you lazy fuck" warranty on this pc, which is ok since the shop is just around the corner (and it only cost me about 50 euros).
Just returned it, should be able to pick it up again on Friday with a new HDD.
I am: skeptical.
Quote from: Maladict on March 24, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
Just returned it, should be able to pick it up again on Friday with a new HDD.
I am: skeptical.
HDD hardware failure when new is not only common, it is almost coming to be expected.
Quote from: grumbler on March 24, 2010, 09:10:50 AM
HDD hardware failure when new is not only common, it is almost coming to be expected.
Had it happen with a 500gb Seagate drive I installed in my Tivo, about 2 months after I got it. I fully expected to make use of the 5-year warranty at some point, but not that early. Seagates in particular aren't what they used to be :(
Seagates never were what they used to be.
For J:
Case
Thermaltake V9 Gaming Tower Case - Red
Processor
Intel® Core™ i7 860 Processor (4x 2.80GHz/8MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling
[Free Upgrade] Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ 120mm Radiator [SOCKET-1156]
Memory
4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 – 1GB - Single Card
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 -- Intel P55 Chipset CrossFire Supported w/8-ch HD Audio, Dual-Channel DDR3, Gb LAN, 2 PCI-E MB
Power Supply
1000 Watt -- Extreme Power Supply [Gaming Series] Quad SLI + Active PFC
Primary Hard Drive
1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive
Optical Drive
24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black
Flash Media Reader/Writer
12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer - Black
Sound Card
3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Network Card
Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) - 64-Bit
Video Camera
None
Warranty
Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support
Subtotal: $1461
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=467
It depends of course on what you want to do with it, but perhaps you should consider an iPad. It's pretty much designed to be a second computer around the home...
Quote from: derspiess on March 24, 2010, 08:44:56 PM
It depends of course on what you want to do with it, but perhaps you should consider an iPad. It's pretty much designed to be a second computer around the home...
It's a big ipod. It'd dumb. Get the mac talk out of here, you guys need to get a room.
-Iphone user
Quote from: Alcibiades on March 25, 2010, 12:15:20 AM
It's a big ipod. It'd dumb. Get the mac talk out of here, you guys need to get a room.
-Iphone user
I was mocking Beeb :contract:
Quote from: derspiess on March 25, 2010, 12:09:57 PM
Quote from: Alcibiades on March 25, 2010, 12:15:20 AM
It's a big ipod. It'd dumb. Get the mac talk out of here, you guys need to get a room.
-Iphone user
I was mocking Beeb :contract:
:Embarrass:
It was .....ermm...late!...yeah.. :blush: