Poll
Question:
Well?
Option 1: Yes.
votes: 8
Option 2: No.
votes: 14
Option 3: They will vote Jaron Imperator for Life instead.
votes: 10
Tonight is the big vote! :w00t:
Here's hoping my county wakes up and realizes it is post-1933.
On a related note, there is a de-segregation vote next year. :smoke:
One step at a time. You may want to hide your Darwin books, though.
I bet: no
Trigg County, Kentucky just repealed prohibition two weeks or so ago, in like a 51/49% decision (IIRC the issue was decided by 36 votes). OMG RECOUNT
Quote from: Syt on October 20, 2009, 12:38:00 PM
One step at a time. You may want to hide your Darwin books, though.
I just went ahead and burned those in advance prior to moving here. :Embarrass:
LOL America.
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
LOL America.
They had this public forum thingy the other night that I missed, but must have been HIGH-LARIOUS. Of note was the tirade by a preacher that the Bah-bull teaches that alcohol consumption is sinful. Funny but I don't recall the story about Jesus turning water into wine ending with Jesus then yelling at people for drinking the wine he just made. :huh:
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
LOL America.
They had this public forum thingy the other night that I missed, but must have been HIGH-LARIOUS. Of note was the tirade by a preacher that the Bah-bull teaches that alcohol consumption is sinful. Funny but I don't recall the story about Jesus turning water into wine ending with Jesus then yelling at people for drinking the wine he just made. :huh:
It was the very first miracle FFS.
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 12:48:53 PM
Of note was the tirade by a preacher that the Bah-bull teaches that alcohol consumption is sinful. Funny but I don't recall the story about Jesus turning water into wine ending with Jesus then yelling at people for drinking the wine he just made. :huh:
Proverbs ("wine is a mocker," "[wine] biteth like a serpent and stingeth like an adder") has some mean things to say about drinking. Of course, Psalms has the "wine that maketh glad the heart of man . . . ."
Baptists have this insane theory (as articulated to me by my mother-in-law) that the "wine" in the Bible is really grape juice. Remember that, while Baptists do conduct Communion like other Protestants, they drink grape juice instead of wine. The explanation she repeated to me made no sense, especially given my brewing experience... I couldn't even tell you the details--my eyes kind of glazed over while she was trying to articulate it and I probably just smiled politely and nodded.
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
LOL America.
They had this public forum thingy the other night that I missed, but must have been HIGH-LARIOUS. Of note was the tirade by a preacher that the Bah-bull teaches that alcohol consumption is sinful. Funny but I don't recall the story about Jesus turning water into wine ending with Jesus then yelling at people for drinking the wine he just made. :huh:
I was more perplexed by the desegregation vote. WTF?
Oh, Jesus... I see you weren't joking about some people thinking they were in 1932...
http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/ky-state-news/63908912.html
http://www.growtrigg.com/?page_id=6
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:53:27 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
LOL America.
They had this public forum thingy the other night that I missed, but must have been HIGH-LARIOUS. Of note was the tirade by a preacher that the Bah-bull teaches that alcohol consumption is sinful. Funny but I don't recall the story about Jesus turning water into wine ending with Jesus then yelling at people for drinking the wine he just made. :huh:
I was more perplexed by the desegregation vote. WTF?
Not all countries had the chance to kill off their undesirable minorities you know.
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 12:53:27 PM
Baptists have this insane theory (as articulated to me by my mother-in-law) that the "wine" in the Bible is really grape juice. Remember that, while Baptists do conduct Communion like other Protestants, they drink grape juice instead of wine. The explanation she repeated to me made no sense, especially given my brewing experience... I couldn't even tell you the details--my eyes kind of glazed over while she was trying to articulate it and I probably just smiled politely and nodded.
LOL I heard that. It is fucking stupid. In the Biblical Mediterranean anyone relying on the grape juice would die of diarrhea within weeks. Beer and wine were so popular because they were capable of killing the most harmful and widespread bacteriae.
Stuff like this really makes one go WTF.
Edit: And shame on you, considering your historical interest in the Roman times. Why on earth you didn't tell the bitch she is fucking stupid?
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:53:27 PM
I was more perplexed by the desegregation vote. WTF?
I was just kidding about that one. :hug:
True, Berk. A real American sees there's no profit in killing. But slavery, on the other hand...
Oh, and If I can play a CdM: it doesn't matter, whatever the result it will still be ol'Kentucky.
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 12:53:27 PM
Remember that, while Baptists do conduct Communion like other Protestants, they drink grape juice instead of wine.
So do the Methodists and the Presbyterians, although I assume this may vary by area...
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:55:45 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 12:53:27 PM
Baptists have this insane theory (as articulated to me by my mother-in-law) that the "wine" in the Bible is really grape juice. Remember that, while Baptists do conduct Communion like other Protestants, they drink grape juice instead of wine. The explanation she repeated to me made no sense, especially given my brewing experience... I couldn't even tell you the details--my eyes kind of glazed over while she was trying to articulate it and I probably just smiled politely and nodded.
LOL I heard that. It is fucking stupid. In the Biblical Mediterranean anyone relying on the grape juice would die of diarrhea within weeks. Beer and wine were so popular because they were capable of killing the most harmful and widespread bacteriae.
Stuff like this really makes one go WTF.
Edit: And shame on you, considering your historical interest in the Roman times. Why on earth you didn't tell the bitch she is fucking stupid?
What you don't get Marty is that they aren't trying to convince you that it makes sense - they don't care if it makes sense to you or other sane humans.
All they need is an excuse, a fig leaf to hide behind. It only has to make sense to THEM, and even then, the bar for "making sense" is almost non-existently low. It only has to make sense enough for them to justify their idiocy
to themselves.
Quote from: ulmont on October 20, 2009, 12:58:37 PM
So do the Methodists and the Presbyterians, although I assume this may vary by area...
Yes, I know. I grew up a Methodist and we drank grape juice, but the rationale there was "we don't want to serve wine to children, and also it's expensive".
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 20, 2009, 12:58:37 PM
So do the Methodists and the Presbyterians, although I assume this may vary by area...
Yes, I know. I grew up a Methodist and we drank grape juice, but the rationale there was "we don't want to serve wine to children, and also it's expensive".
That actually makes a lot of sense.
After all, it is going to turn into demi-human/deity blood anyway, so why bother drinking something expensive like wine?
Quote from: Berkut on October 20, 2009, 01:01:18 PM
That actually makes a lot of sense.
After all, it is going to turn into demi-human/deity blood anyway, so why bother drinking something expensive like wine?
Well OTOH it's not like the wine they serve at Mass is exactly high quality stuff. :x
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:55:45 PM
Edit: And shame on you, considering your historical interest in the Roman times. Why on earth you didn't tell the bitch she is fucking stupid?
:huh: I'm polite? Also I like sex?
Lot's daughters used wine to get him drunk and have sex with him. How much more proof for the sinfulness of alcohol do you need? :huh:
Well, the way I see it, if you must take some fairytales written 2000+ years ago as literal truth, at least don't make shit up or misinterpret them in a wildly incorrect way.
Quote from: Berkut on October 20, 2009, 01:01:18 PM
That actually makes a lot of sense.
After all, it is going to turn into demi-human/deity blood anyway, so why bother drinking something expensive like wine?
I never paid super close attention to the issue, but I think only Papists think you're slugging down the actual blood and body of Mr. J. H. Christ.
Cal: are you a bedroom community of Lexington? Where are you?
Quote from: Syt on October 20, 2009, 01:06:57 PM
Lot's daughters used wine to get him drunk and have sex with him.
Were they HOTT
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 01:08:14 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 20, 2009, 01:06:57 PM
Lot's daughters used wine to get him drunk and have sex with him.
Were they HOTT
On second thought this probably a reason
against prohibition in the redneck states.
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 01:06:00 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:55:45 PM
Edit: And shame on you, considering your historical interest in the Roman times. Why on earth you didn't tell the bitch she is fucking stupid?
:huh: I'm polite? Also I like sex?
Oh ok. One thing that's good about being gay, is that it is really unlikely (though not unheard of) to have some lunatic religious bitch as your sex date. :P
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 20, 2009, 01:07:49 PM
I never paid super close attention to the issue, but I think only Papists think you're slugging down the actual blood and body of Mr. J. H. Christ.
Cal: are you a bedroom community of Lexington? Where are you?
Bedroom community of Louisville.
...and AFAIK you are correct about transsubstantiation. I can't say I am 100% sure but I believe Methodists think Communion is merely symbolic.
Quote from: Syt on October 20, 2009, 01:09:04 PM
On second thought this probably a reason against alcohol in the redneck states.
:lmfao:
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: Syt on October 20, 2009, 01:09:04 PM
On second thought this probably a reason against alcohol in the redneck states.
:lmfao:
I meant prohibition. -_-
I vote no. The last thing we need in this economy is the collapse of the moonshine industry.
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
LOL America.
Being from California this stuff seems crazy to me too. I can't believe there is still prohibition in places. And in some states even if they can sell alcohol they can't do it in supermarkets. :blink:
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 20, 2009, 12:58:37 PM
So do the Methodists and the Presbyterians, although I assume this may vary by area...
Yes, I know. I grew up a Methodist and we drank grape juice, but the rationale there was "we don't want to serve wine to children, and also it's expensive".
So when you say "like other Protestants, but they use grape juice instead of wine," what do you mean, exactly, considering that the other Protestants use grape juice as well?
Better question: which Protestant denominations actually use wine (and the Episcopalian/Anglicans don't count)?
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
in some states even if they can sell alcohol they can't do it in supermarkets.
*most* states where distilled spirits are concerned.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
LOL America.
Being from California this stuff seems crazy to me too. I can't believe there is still prohibition in places. And in some states even if they can sell alcohol they can't do it in supermarkets. :blink:
I didn't notice at first (because I don't smoke), but while in Germany cigarettes are sold in supermarkets, in Austria you have to go to the so called "Tabak Trafik", or tobacco shop to buy them. Mostly those are small places where you can also play the lottery and buy papers and magazines. Kinda similar to not selling licquor at supermarkets in parts of the U.S.
I wish I was voting on booze in November. But no, it is boring stuff like casinos.
Nah, your county retain its ban on alcohol. And well worth it, seeing how destructive alcohol is. So that's a ban which should become more widespread, what with alcohol being the demon's own drink! :menace:
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
LOL America.
Being from California this stuff seems crazy to me too. I can't believe there is still prohibition in places. And in some states even if they can sell alcohol they can't do it in supermarkets. :blink:
There are plenty of dry First Nations communities in Canada (and a couple of dry Mennonite towns as well).
And you can't buy booze in a supermarket anywhere but Quebec. Everywhere but Quebec and Alberta you have to buy from government-owned stores.
Amusing how these dry counties always seem to be ins those states making the biggest song and dance over gun rights too.
Lets hope it does pass, I couldn't guess if it will though. Religious people are nuts.
Quote from: ulmont on October 20, 2009, 01:15:39 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
in some states even if they can sell alcohol they can't do it in supermarkets.
*most* states where distilled spirits are concerned.
I didn't know about this rule until a fark article a couple months ago. I assumed you could just buy liquor at the supermarket everywhere except in a handful of dry counties in the south. Seems very strange to me to walk in to a supermarket and not have an enormous aisle full of vodka, rum, and whiskey.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:38:38 PM
I didn't know about this rule until a fark article a couple months ago. I assumed you could just buy liquor at the supermarket everywhere except in a handful of dry counties in the south. Seems very strange to me to walk in to a supermarket and not have an enormous aisle full of vodka, rum, and whiskey.
It seems strange to me to walk into a supermarket and see booze of any sort for sale.
For the curious,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_the_United_States_by_state
Thankfully, I won't have to deal with that bullshit.
It's probably just as well that these things are decided at a local level in the USA. Otherwise how could the kentucky rural types peacefully co-exist with (for example) the SF crowd?
Quote from: Barrister on October 20, 2009, 01:27:40 PM
And you can't buy booze in a supermarket anywhere but Quebec. Everywhere but Quebec and Alberta you have to buy from government-owned stores.
Did you copy the Scandinavian system or it was the other way round, they copied yours?
Buying all alcoholic drinks in a government store at first sight seems strange to an Spaniard, but then again we can't buy tobacco in a supermarket, we (not me actually, I don't smoke) buy it from government-licensed stores that almost always sell exclusively tobacco, lighters, and related items.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: ulmont on October 20, 2009, 01:15:39 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
in some states even if they can sell alcohol they can't do it in supermarkets.
*most* states where distilled spirits are concerned.
I didn't know about this rule until a fark article a couple months ago. I assumed you could just buy liquor at the supermarket everywhere except in a handful of dry counties in the south. Seems very strange to me to walk in to a supermarket and not have an enormous aisle full of vodka, rum, and whiskey.
I haven't heard of any states except Calif. and Louisiana with such liberal alcohol laws. I still remember years ago being shocked by all the wine displays at the Publix in Tampa, Fla. :o
I've actually come to secretly enjoy Pennsylvania's obtuse liquor and beer laws. Love watching out-of-staters try to buy a 12-pack at the beer distributor only to be sent back to get the whole case or nothing at all. :lol:
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:38:38 PM
I didn't know about this rule until a fark article a couple months ago. I assumed you could just buy liquor at the supermarket everywhere except in a handful of dry counties in the south. Seems very strange to me to walk in to a supermarket and not have an enormous aisle full of vodka, rum, and whiskey.
And a bunch of slot machines along one wall. :)
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 20, 2009, 01:45:05 PM
For the curious,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_the_United_States_by_state
Thankfully, I won't have to deal with that bullshit.
Quote
Nevada | No | 24 hours | 24 hours | Yes | There are few restrictions on the sale and consumption of alcohol in Nevada except for age.
State law also renders public intoxication legal, and explicitly prohibits any local or state law from making it a public offence.[35]
:yeah:
yay, sloppy drunks wandering the streets in Reno. It is just like England. :x
Quote from: Syt on October 20, 2009, 01:19:56 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
LOL America.
Being from California this stuff seems crazy to me too. I can't believe there is still prohibition in places. And in some states even if they can sell alcohol they can't do it in supermarkets. :blink:
I didn't notice at first (because I don't smoke), but while in Germany cigarettes are sold in supermarkets, in Austria you have to go to the so called "Tabak Trafik", or tobacco shop to buy them. Mostly those are small places where you can also play the lottery and buy papers and magazines. Kinda similar to not selling licquor at supermarkets in parts of the U.S.
not sure about the reason for it in thestates, but over here (europe) it's usually because of state-monopolies or the remnants thereof. Tabacco, alcohol and salt were 3 of the most important monopolies the state had/has. Hence the special stores that still remain (even if the monopoly in some cases is long gone)
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
Being from California this stuff seems crazy to me too. I can't believe there is still prohibition in places. And in some states even if they can sell alcohol they can't do it in supermarkets. :blink:
Kentucky allows supermarket alcohol sales (assuming the supermarket isn't in a dry county, of course). Neither Pennsylvania nor Massachusetts, the two other places I've lived in, allow supermarket alcohol sales.
Communist scandinavia is infamous for its no booze over 3.5% (in Sweden at least...think its different percentages in the others) in supermarkets law.
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 01:06:57 PM
Well, the way I see it, if you must take some fairytales written 2000+ years ago as literal truth, at least don't make shit up or misinterpret them in a wildly incorrect way.
You know as well as I do that people who consider it literal truth have obviously never read it.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 20, 2009, 01:45:05 PM
For the curious,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_the_United_States_by_state
Thankfully, I won't have to deal with that bullshit.
Texas has surprisingly populist laws (try being a landlord here, the law is totally in favor of the tenant...they have more votes after all) and even libertarian in alot of things except for one bizarre quirk where you cannot sell liqour (as opposed to beer, wine, and beer and winelike things) in supermarkets and convenient stores and you cannot sell liqour anywhere after 2 am. It is so bizarre and arbitrary.
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 12:53:27 PM
Baptists have this insane theory (as articulated to me by my mother-in-law) that the "wine" in the Bible is really grape juice. Remember that, while Baptists do conduct Communion like other Protestants, they drink grape juice instead of wine. The explanation she repeated to me made no sense, especially given my brewing experience... I couldn't even tell you the details--my eyes kind of glazed over while she was trying to articulate it and I probably just smiled politely and nodded.
Iirc they use as justification for that a passage that says to avoid wine when it is red and moves in the glass.
As usual, justifications for both sides of the issue can be found in the bible.
Quote from: Valmy on October 20, 2009, 02:36:06 PM
You know as well as I do that people who consider it literal truth have obviously never read it.
You know that do you?
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 12:36:37 PM
Tonight is the big vote! :w00t:
Here's hoping my county wakes up and realizes it is post-1933.
:bleeding: Kentuckian Nazi.
Quote from: Valmy on October 20, 2009, 02:36:06 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 01:06:57 PM
Well, the way I see it, if you must take some fairytales written 2000+ years ago as literal truth, at least don't make shit up or misinterpret them in a wildly incorrect way.
You know as well as I do that people who consider it literal truth have obviously never read it.Quote from: Ed Anger on October 20, 2009, 01:45:05 PM
For the curious,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_laws_of_the_United_States_by_state
Thankfully, I won't have to deal with that bullshit.
Texas has surprisingly populist laws (try being a landlord here, the law is totally in favor of the tenant...they have more votes after all) and even libertarian in alot of things except for one bizarre quirk where you cannot sell liqour (as opposed to beer, wine, and beer and winelike things) in supermarkets and convenient stores and you cannot sell liqour anywhere after 2 am. It is so bizarre and arbitrary.
Another thing odd about Texas (I think it's still this way) is that all alcoholic beverages sold in the state go through only two or three legal distributors. Basically, it's a big monopolistic farce.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 20, 2009, 03:40:57 PM
Another thing odd about Texas (I think it's still this way) is that all alcoholic beverages sold in the state go through only two or three legal distributors. Basically, it's a big monopolistic farce.
I refuse to believe that the state which produced LBJ could possibly be corrupt like you are insinuating. :mad:
What I find amazing (and I guess this will come as no surprise to anyone) is not the crazy fundies thik it amtters whether their fake blood is wine or grape juice, but that people cannot get the basic idea that their religious beliefs make shitty laws!
If you think drinking alcohol is the work of the devil, then why can't you just not drink any? Why is it so hard to understand the idea that just because something is against your religion, basic respect for individual freedom would demand that your religious rules should not be pushed onto others?
This is a (another) prime example of my contention that most people only give token acknowledgment to the the concept of individual freedom. Very few people seem capable of making the distinction between what they think people should do, and what they think the state should force people to do (or not do).
Quote from: Syt on October 20, 2009, 01:19:56 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 20, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 20, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
LOL America.
Being from California this stuff seems crazy to me too. I can't believe there is still prohibition in places. And in some states even if they can sell alcohol they can't do it in supermarkets. :blink:
I didn't notice at first (because I don't smoke), but while in Germany cigarettes are sold in supermarkets, in Austria you have to go to the so called "Tabak Trafik", or tobacco shop to buy them. Mostly those are small places where you can also play the lottery and buy papers and magazines. Kinda similar to not selling licquor at supermarkets in parts of the U.S.
Ein bischen wie Frankreich. Gut, sehr gut! :frog: :thumbsup:
Except those places are also cafés/bar and have sometimes longer opening hours than supermarkets, though.
Quote from: Valmy on October 20, 2009, 02:36:06 PM
Texas has surprisingly populist laws (try being a landlord here, the law is totally in favor of the tenant...they have more votes after all) and even libertarian in alot of things except for one bizarre quirk where you cannot sell liqour (as opposed to beer, wine, and beer and winelike things) in supermarkets and convenient stores and you cannot sell liqour anywhere after 2 am. It is so bizarre and arbitrary.
I don't really care about shutting everything down at 2am, but what has always irritated me is that they stop selling booze (at the booze store, of course) at 9, and beer/wine (from the grocery/convenience store) at 12 or 1, while the bars stay open the extra hour or two or five. Why don't they just stop selling it
everywhere at 2?
Well, I did my civic duty and voted. :cool:
The cool thing was that, since my precinct is the closest one to Louisville (and the highways), all these news trucks were there to cover the referendum. Alot of hot chick cub reporters :perv:
Here's an article on the vote: http://www.whas11.com/news/local/stories/whas11-localbus-091019-wet-dry.2321030a0.html (http://www.whas11.com/news/local/stories/whas11-localbus-091019-wet-dry.2321030a0.html)
If you watch the attached news video clip you will get to hear the Kentucky accent in all its glory. Whee. :alberta:
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 05:58:49 PM
If you watch the attached news video clip you will get to hear the Kentucky accent in all its glory. Whee. :alberta:
Dammit, I was hoping for a hot chicks attached to those accents. I guess I'll just have to think back to my cute Kentucky-bred nurses back in '06.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_-axun4hEQI0%2FSHO0HMNmiMI%2FAAAAAAAAADE%2FoyRSFuA8uKo%2Fs320%2Fwe_win_cheers.jpg&hash=fb3ed83e548eeb088ca0c9b4a9f25f927d1d0481)
:w00t:
Not only did 'yes' win, but preliminary count indicates it was a landslide!
TAKE THAT BAPTIST DOUCHEBAGS :menace:
P.S. There's a plot of land for sale right across from the local Baptist church. Maybe I'll buy it and put up a liquor store there. A DRIVE THRU liquor store. Muhahaahah!
When I was a little kid, I used to think that the USA is the "land of the free" and all that. "Dry counties" is one of the things that convinced me otherwise :P
BTW Hong Kongers, on average, drink a lot less, and we don't have much restriction on sales of alcoholic beverages. Apart from no selling to people under 18 and no drink driving.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 20, 2009, 08:29:02 PM
BTW Hong Kongers, on average, drink a lot less, and we don't have much restriction on sales of alcoholic beverages. Apart from no selling to people under 18 and no drink driving.
I drive a Martini.
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 07:21:28 PM
P.S. There's a plot of land for sale right across from the local Baptist church. Maybe I'll buy it and put up a liquor store there. A DRIVE THRU liquor store. Muhahaahah!
Your store: Up in flames
Man, a liquor store fire would look OSSUM. :punk:
Congrats on receiving the ability to buy liquor. My condolences when your county starts experiencing all the political nonsense that goes on with issuing local liquor licenses.
Kentucky's statewide liquor control board rations liquor licenses at the county and municipal level. As such, due to the low population of our county, they will not award us any licenses to open a bar. That doesn't bother me so much because only kids and losers go to bars, but it's still mildly annoying in that if the people in the county want to build one, they should have one.
What the change allows for is this: a total of 8 venues (again based on population) which can serve alcohol. Restaurants can only serve alcohol if they will derive the majority of their profits from food and will not be able to serve cocktails or hard liquor, only beer and wine. Also, included in that total of 8 could be liquor stores, which can sell any sort of alcohol.
But yes, given the small number of licenses that will be offered I'm sure there will be plenty of scandal re: the graft that will determine who gets what. :D
Quote from: Monoriu on October 20, 2009, 08:29:02 PM
When I was a little kid, I used to think that the USA is the "land of the free" and all that. "Dry counties" is one of the things that convinced me otherwise :P
BTW Hong Kongers, on average, drink a lot less, and we don't have much restriction on sales of alcoholic beverages. Apart from no selling to people under 18 and no drink driving.
Localities (cities, towns, counties,etc) can still decide on their local laws and ordinances. Those can also be challenged in court, so I'd say that the system still works pretty well.
We have a few dry towns in my area. I used to find that odd but don't really care either way.
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 01:00:01 PM
Yes, I know. I grew up a Methodist and we drank grape juice, but the rationale there was "we don't want to serve wine to children, and also it's expensive".
You had mass at a Methodist church?
Quote from: Maximus on October 20, 2009, 03:38:22 PM
You know that do you?
I try to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Quote from: grumbler on October 22, 2009, 09:14:19 AM
You had mass at a Methodist church?
Well they have communion at Methodist churches.
Quote from: Caliga on October 20, 2009, 07:20:10 PM
Not only did 'yes' win, but preliminary count indicates it was a landslide!
TAKE THAT BAPTIST DOUCHEBAGS :menace:
:nelson
Baptists = fail
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 09:17:13 AM
Well they have communion at Methodist churches.
I did not know that. A quick search says it is only occasional in many Methodist churches, though, so maybe that is why I didn't even know they did it.
Quote from: grumbler on October 22, 2009, 09:26:18 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 09:17:13 AM
Well they have communion at Methodist churches.
I did not know that. A quick search says it is only occasional in many Methodist churches, though, so maybe that is why I didn't even know they did it.
I'm pretty sure communion's both protestant and Catholic- my parents' old Presbyterian church would do communion every fifth Sunday.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 22, 2009, 09:43:51 AM
I'm pretty sure communion's both protestant and Catholic- my parents' old Presbyterian church would do communion every fifth Sunday.
Yes, communion is common in many protestant denominations, as I well knew; Lutheran, Presbyterian, Anglican/Episcapalian; pretty much all the "high church" kinds of denominations. I didn't know it was practiced by Methodists, nor do I still know if practiced by Baptists, Anabaptists, Quakers, Shakers, or Unitarians.
It's practiced in the United Church, which was a merger of the Methodists and Presbyterians.
At my dad's Methodist church they make a point of saying that you don't have to be a member or even a Christian to chow down.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 22, 2009, 10:24:09 AM
At my dad's Methodist church they make a point of saying that you don't have to be a member or even a Christian to chow down.
Yeah the Catholics announce if you are not a Catholic do not partake...not that they will do anything if you do but, you know, God knows you are a heretical bastard.
The Methodists do not concern themselves with it on that level.
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 10:35:34 AM
Yeah the Catholics announce if you are not a Catholic do not partake...not that they will do anything if you do but, you know, God knows you are a heretical bastard.
The Catholics also allow at least some Orthodox denominations to partake, at least according to the program notes the few times I've been in proximity.
Quote from: ulmont on October 22, 2009, 10:37:51 AM
The Catholics also allow at least some Orthodox denominations to partake, at least according to the program notes the few times I've been in proximity.
I guess Orthodoxy is so rare in Texas they don't bother to mention it.
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 10:35:34 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 22, 2009, 10:24:09 AM
At my dad's Methodist church they make a point of saying that you don't have to be a member or even a Christian to chow down.
Yeah the Catholics announce if you are not a Catholic do not partake...not that they will do anything if you do but, you know, God knows you are a heretical bastard.
The Methodists do not concern themselves with it on that level.
Protties just pass around a plate of bread or crackers and little cups of wine or juice. They don't go up and get it from the priest. It's the no-priest-between-you-and-God thingie. Every Christian denomination that I know of does communion at least once in a while.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 22, 2009, 12:41:57 PM
Protties just pass around a plate of bread or crackers and little cups of wine or juice. They don't go up and get it from the priest. It's the no-priest-between-you-and-God thingie. Every Christian denomination that I know of does communion at least once in a while.
Interesting fact: I have never actually not-gotten communion from a priest before. Even at my good friends Catholic marriage it was he himself (and his bride) who gave communion. I think the Priests deputize members of the congregation these days to speed things along.
Quote from: grumbler on October 22, 2009, 10:13:32 AM
Yes, communion is common in many protestant denominations, as I well knew; Lutheran, Presbyterian, Anglican/Episcapalian; pretty much all the "high church" kinds of denominations. I didn't know it was practiced by Methodists, nor do I still know if practiced by Baptists, Anabaptists, Quakers, Shakers, or Unitarians.
Mennonites(Annabaptists) practice it, usually on an annual basis in the groups I'm familiar with. They take it one step further than most(I think) and include the foot washing.
Quote from: Maximus on October 22, 2009, 01:01:29 PM
Quote from: grumbler on October 22, 2009, 10:13:32 AM
Yes, communion is common in many protestant denominations, as I well knew; Lutheran, Presbyterian, Anglican/Episcapalian; pretty much all the "high church" kinds of denominations. I didn't know it was practiced by Methodists, nor do I still know if practiced by Baptists, Anabaptists, Quakers, Shakers, or Unitarians.
Mennonites(Annabaptists) practice it, usually on an annual basis in the groups I'm familiar with. They take it one step further than most(I think) and include the foot washing.
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Also, not only do you have to be a member of the church, but you have to go through the process to take part. That includes several weeks of revival meetings, cross-examination by the clergy, and self-examination and public confession.
Are you sure? Can't you just say "Mennon" and enter?
Well I never tried that.
BTW, I think it's "Mellon"
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 22, 2009, 12:41:57 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 10:35:34 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 22, 2009, 10:24:09 AM
At my dad's Methodist church they make a point of saying that you don't have to be a member or even a Christian to chow down.
Yeah the Catholics announce if you are not a Catholic do not partake...not that they will do anything if you do but, you know, God knows you are a heretical bastard.
The Methodists do not concern themselves with it on that level.
Protties just pass around a plate of bread or crackers and little cups of wine or juice. They don't go up and get it from the priest. It's the no-priest-between-you-and-God thingie. Every Christian denomination that I know of does communion at least once in a while.
In my Lutheran church in Germany we had to go to the altar and the pastor would hold the cup for us (turning it slightly after each drinker and wiping it every full circle so that you didn't catch anything). He'd also give us the cookie.
Quote from: Maximus on October 22, 2009, 01:07:20 PM
Well I never tried that.
BTW, I think it's "Mellon"
:huh: Mellonites is something else I think.
Quote from: Syt on October 22, 2009, 01:09:27 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 22, 2009, 12:41:57 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 10:35:34 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 22, 2009, 10:24:09 AM
At my dad's Methodist church they make a point of saying that you don't have to be a member or even a Christian to chow down.
Yeah the Catholics announce if you are not a Catholic do not partake...not that they will do anything if you do but, you know, God knows you are a heretical bastard.
The Methodists do not concern themselves with it on that level.
Protties just pass around a plate of bread or crackers and little cups of wine or juice. They don't go up and get it from the priest. It's the no-priest-between-you-and-God thingie. Every Christian denomination that I know of does communion at least once in a while.
In my Lutheran church in Germany we had to go to the altar and the pastor would hold the cup for us (turning it slightly after each drinker and wiping it every full circle so that you didn't catch anything). He'd also give us the cookie.
Yeah. Unlike Catholics Lutheran pastors aren't limited by restraining orders.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 22, 2009, 12:41:57 PM
Protties just pass around a plate of bread or crackers and little cups of wine or juice. They don't go up and get it from the priest. It's the no-priest-between-you-and-God thingie. Every Christian denomination that I know of does communion at least once in a while.
I've only seen the up-at-the-front kind, never the hors d'oevres tray thingy.
Quote from: grumbler on October 22, 2009, 09:26:18 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 09:17:13 AM
Well they have communion at Methodist churches.
I did not know that. A quick search says it is only occasional in many Methodist churches, though, so maybe that is why I didn't even know they did it.
At my church, we do it about once a month, particularly on holidays. We are a bit more laid back on the idea, and do not regard the grape juice & bread as the literal blood/flesh of Christ like the Catholix do.
On the other hand, I think it's dumb that we use grape juice instead of actual wine. I took communion once at a Lutheran church-- they used the good stuff :)
Quote from: Valmy on October 22, 2009, 12:51:53 PM
Interesting fact: I have never actually not-gotten communion from a priest before. Even at my good friends Catholic marriage it was he himself (and his bride) who gave communion. I think the Priests deputize members of the congregation these days to speed things along.
Yeah, I read something about that in The Onion :P http://www.theonion.com/content/news/priest_shortage_forces_vatican_to
When my nephew/godson & niece were baptized, each time they had some dude wearing a wedding ring & sporting some cape that I can only describe as Liberace-like, but without anything sparkly.
The non denominational church I went to as a little kid never did it. Not even exactly sure what communion is but I know I was never given crackers or grape juice to eat while there.
Quote from: Barrister on October 22, 2009, 10:17:03 AM
It's practiced in the United Church, which was a merger of the Methodists and Presbyterians.
Was. Now it is a wing of the New Democratic Party. We went to my parents' for Christmas one year and the sermon was all about how America and Bush were evil.
Quote from: derspiess on October 22, 2009, 01:22:15 PM
At my church, we do it about once a month, particularly on holidays. We are a bit more laid back on the idea, and do not regard the grape juice & bread as the literal blood/flesh of Christ like the Catholix do.
On the other hand, I think it's dumb that we use grape juice instead of actual wine. I took communion once at a Lutheran church-- they used the good stuff :)
Growing up my church was United Methodist and we did it about once a month as well, and also did not believe in transubstantiation.
My grandfather was an ELC minister and his churches never used real wine for communion.
Clearly, you all are papists.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 22, 2009, 01:21:17 PM
I've only seen the up-at-the-front kind, never the hors d'oevres tray thingy.
I've done both. But yeah, usually party platter.
Southern Baptists do the party tray thing.
The most fun was the baptism.
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Quote from: citizen k on October 22, 2009, 11:59:08 PM
Southern Baptists do the party tray thing.
The most fun was the baptism.
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