My friend and I brewed 5 gals. of IPA today, in our first experiment. We accidentally overchilled the wort by about 10 degrees. Hopefully, the yeast will make it okay.
Quote from: Scipio on October 17, 2009, 08:22:40 PM
My friend and I brewed 5 gals. of IPA today, in our first experiment. We accidentally overchilled the wort by about 10 degrees. Hopefully, the yeast will make it okay.
:cool:
btw IPA is practically the one beer I won't brew since I don't like that much hops. Prefer little to no hops flavor. :bowler:
Yeast will grow in wort that is only slightly above freezing, so don't worry.
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2009, 08:35:53 PM
Quote from: Scipio on October 17, 2009, 08:22:40 PM
My friend and I brewed 5 gals. of IPA today, in our first experiment. We accidentally overchilled the wort by about 10 degrees. Hopefully, the yeast will make it okay.
:cool:
btw IPA is practically the one beer I won't brew since I don't like that much hops. Prefer little to no hops flavor. :bowler:
Yeast will grow in wort that is only slightly above freezing, so don't worry.
Yeah, I wasn't counting on it cooling so quickly. In four minutes in an icewater bath, the wort dropped 60 degrees. And people are bitching about it taking 20 minutes. WTF?
Damn, this really makes me want to get down to My Old Kentucky Homebrew. Maybe I'll go tomorrow. :cool:
Yeah, alot of homebrew guys are obsessed with wort cooling extremely quickly, to the point that they make these wort chiller contraptions to facilitate it.
Quote from: Caliga on October 17, 2009, 08:41:04 PM
Damn, this really makes me want to get down to My Old Kentucky Homebrew. Maybe I'll go tomorrow. :cool:
Yeah, alot of homebrew guys are obsessed with wort cooling extremely quickly, to the point that they make these wort chiller contraptions to facilitate it.
I set up an ice bath in my kitchen sink, and then once the wort hit the 145 mark I dumped it over 10 lbs of ice. Instant 90 degree drop.
Quote from: Scipio on October 17, 2009, 08:54:48 PM
I set up an ice bath in my kitchen sink, and then once the wort hit the 145 mark I dumped it over 10 lbs of ice. Instant 90 degree drop.
The ice bath in the kitchen sink thing is what I've always done as well.
My trick was to use chilled spring water (2x 2.5 gallon jugs, minus a little) that I had left in the fridge overnight. Pour the cold water into the fermenter, then mix in the hot wort. The equalized temperature of the resulting wort pretty much always fell in the acceptable range.
Whenever I get serious about brewing, I'll buy one of those kickass cooling systems & other equipment. But I've been saying that for 14 years :D
We have fermentation. Fermentation is go.
I've always fancied the idea of making my own booze....but the thought of killing myself is offputting.
Quote from: Tyr on October 18, 2009, 04:39:42 PM
but the thought of killing myself is offputting.
:rolleyes:
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Quote from: Tyr on October 18, 2009, 04:39:42 PM
I've always fancied the idea of making my own booze....but the thought of killing myself is offputting.
My grandfather brewed beer successfully, so I know a little about it, even though I haven't brewed myself. The risks are minimal, unless you are an idiot.
Heh.
Beer tastes awful. Everyone says the taste is acquired, but why acquire a taste that is disgusting?
Quote from: Jaron on October 18, 2009, 07:17:34 PM
Beer tastes awful. Everyone says the taste is acquired, but why acquire a taste that is disgusting?
It's not necessarily acquired. I went from drinking hard cider to beer as a natural progression, without ever drinking something I didn't enjoy.
My favorite thing to brew is cider. :mmm:
Cider. :mmm:
When you become a colonel, we should have a big bbq and cider tasting on your front porch.
Quote from: Jaron on October 19, 2009, 07:33:48 AM
Cider. :mmm:
When you become a colonel, we should have a big bbq and cider tasting on your front porch.
Ok. :yes: :cool:
I wanna try mead again.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on October 19, 2009, 07:48:51 AM
I wanna try mead again.
Meri posted a recipe for apricot mead I will probably try as soon as I get my ass down to My Old Kentucky Homebrew.
Quote from: Caliga on October 18, 2009, 07:49:37 PM
My favorite thing to brew is cider. :mmm:
That hard?
Nah, about the same as wine.
Quote from: Tyr on October 18, 2009, 04:39:42 PM
I've always fancied the idea of making my own booze....but the thought of killing myself is offputting.
Are you planning on spiking it with anti-freeze?
Made two new meads today: Spiced Cranberry and Spiced Apple. Recipes follow. If you can't get grains of paradise, up the amount of peppercorn to 1 teaspoon and add 1 tsp whole cardamon.
Spiced Cranberry Mead
3 lbs. clover honey
2 qt water
12 oz whole cranberries (in the bag, not the can)
juice and zest of one large orange (be sure not to get any pith when you shred the zest)
5 3" sticks of cinnamon
1 tsp grains of paradise
1 tsp allspice, whole
1/2 whole nutmeg, roughly chopped
1/2 tsp black peppercorn
1 pkg. Lalvin EC - 1118 yeast
Cook all the ingredients except yeast on medium heat until cranberries pop. Lower heat to low then simmer for 15 minutes more. Strain all pulp and spices out of the must. Let cool to 100F, then pour into one-gallon glass carboy. Top off with lukewarm water. Pour two cups of must into a sterile cup to pitch yeast. Let sit for a few minutes, then pour back into the carboy. Airlock it and put it away.
Spiced Apple Mead
3 lbs. clover honey
1 qt apple cider
2 qts water
3 3" sticks of cinnamon
1 tsp grains of paradise
1 tsp allspice, whole
1/2 tsp black peppercorn
10 whole cloves
1/2 tsp pure vanilla extract
2 1/4 tsp Red Star Active Yeast
Heat all ingredients except yeast on medium heat until simmering. Turn down to low and let simmer for 20-30 minutes. Strain all spices out of the must. Let cool to 100F, then pour into one-gallon glass carboy. Top off with lukewarm water. Pour two cups of must into a sterile cup to pitch yeast. Let sit for a few minutes, then pour back into the carboy. Airlock it and put it away.
Quote from: Scipio on October 17, 2009, 08:22:40 PM
My friend and I brewed 5 gals. of IPA today, in our first experiment. We accidentally overchilled the wort by about 10 degrees. Hopefully, the yeast will make it okay.
I have all of the ingredients and equipment to make a 5-gallon batch of Scotch Ale, but I've hesitated to get it going. Beer seems so much more complicated than meads or hard cider. I'm skeered. :ph34r:
Quote from: merithyn on October 24, 2009, 05:28:57 PM
I have all of the ingredients and equipment to make a 5-gallon batch of Scotch Ale, but I've hesitated to get it going. Beer seems so much more complicated than meads or hard cider. I'm skeered. :ph34r:
It definitely is more complicated, yeah.
I had a dream last night. I don't remember everything, but I do remember I fell down like a well or something, and I made my way through a cave and found a door. And inside the door was a huge room where someone had been making their own wine and beer, and I became happy. Then I don't remember anything else.
Quote from: miglia on October 24, 2009, 09:37:21 PM
I had a dream last night. I don't remember everything, but I do remember I fell down like a well or something, and I made my way through a cave and found a door. And inside the door was a huge room where someone had been making their own wine and beer, and I became happy. Then I don't remember anything else.
Black out drunks. <_<
:P
Quote from: Caliga on October 18, 2009, 07:49:37 PM
My favorite thing to brew is cider. :mmm:
Cal, check this blog out. It's one of my favorite "foodie" sites:
http://thepauperedchef.com/ (http://thepauperedchef.com/)
QuoteCurrently Blake and I have four gallons of apple cider fermenting in the back of his bedroom closet. The hope is that in a few days, thanks to some hungry yeast, we'll have something that might resemble hard apple cider. We're honestly nervous. We've undertaken ridiculous experiments before, but nothing that could potentially get us hammered. If it works, then we'll have made an alcoholic drink for less than it costs to buy a jug of Carlo Rossi. If it doesn't work then, well, we've got a lot of stank apple juice on our hands.
I suppose the first question to ask is "why cider?" It's one that has consumed Blake and I for a few weeks now. It started this fall when Blake was in Michigan, and ended up buying a bushel of apples for ten dollars. A bushel. Which, if you're not familiar, is more than 100 apples. They weren't excellent eating apples, and you can only make so many apple crisps. So we thought, why not make hard cider?
Of course, the turning of apples into juice is not the easiest process in the world: you need a fruit press or a juicer or some other specialized equipment which didn't exactly fit in our Chicago apartments. But we were still intrigued with making hard cider. So in the end, we ended up giving away lots of apples and opting to just buy apple cider to begin with.
What utterly fascinated us was that cider could be made quickly, easily, and cheaply from local ingredients. This same fact has also explained why we've never attempted to make our own wine or beer. About the most exotic ingredient we'll need is yeast, which we purchased from a local home-brewing supply store. Unlike beer, we can buy the main ingredient from the local farmers' market. That's really appealing.
There is also the fascinating history of cider, one that far more extensive than we ever realized. If you're interested in the wild history of cider in America, this article from Slate is a great place to start. In the article, author Brian Palmer uncovers this American drink. Cider was so commonplace in early American history, William Henry Harrison used a cider barrel, along with a log cabin, as his campaign logo in 1840. He won in a landslide. It was the every-man's drink. Farmers' could easily make it in their cellars and store it for months. It was, for a time, far more popular than beer. Cider became a quintessential American drink.
Cider's popularity was increased by a man named John Chapman--otherwise known as Johnny Appleseed--who collected seeds from local cider mills and spread them across the country. These apples were not particularly good for eating, but made very drinkable cider. So Johnny Appleseed's true mission was to plant orchards not for eating, but for cider-making. Again, we've stumbled on something quintessentially American.
The romanticizing of cider, though, flies in the face of one appalling fact that has kept me away from the drink for years: Most of the cider I've had is awful. It's usually overly sweet, fizzy, and cloying. After a few bottles, my stomach churns and my tastes buds feel assaulted. I beg for the dry sip of lager or ale afterward.
But I also remember some glorious pints in England, served in big sturdy glasses, that were utterly refreshingly, fairly dry, with just a hint of carbonation to enliven each sip. I've also had some luck with some bottles from Northern France that I purchased from my local wine shop Red & White.
For the past few weeks we've both been reading books and articles, searching online forums, and e-mailing people in the know, hoping to discern any secrets we could before we decided to make it. In the process, our heads began to swell with so much information, and so many different opinions, that we almost gave up in desperation. Making cider became serious and studious. How could farmers a hundred years ago deal with all this confusion?
Finally, we realized that It'd be best if we just started. We'd read enough and talked about it long enough. Just like our kimchi challenge, we realized that the best way to learn was to try. If we failed, we'd hopefully learn something along the way.
We're going to have a more technical explanation of our process next week, which hopefully details our successful alcoholic potion and not some acrid swill. If you've ever attempted to make cider at home, we'd love your comments and help. The jugs are currently under a blanket in Blake's apartment.
For those really interested in the history of cider, check out The American Cider Book by Vrest Orton and Cider: Hard and Sweet by Ben Watson.
First batch: successfully bottled. Final gravity of 1.020. Very hoppy. 41 bottles and four glasses of beer.
2d batch: succesfully brewed. Porter, starting gravity of 1.046. We are very pleased with the process.
:cool:
The last time I brewed cider I accidentally produced a gallon more than I intended to (and had bottle space for). So I drank a gallon of cider while and after bottling. That was a fun Sunday afternoon. :blush:
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I am continually amazed at the things languishites do. Home-brewing is so...Martian to me.
My dad's big into homebrewing. It generally comes out pretty good, even if his tastes in beer tend to differ from mine. He also brewed some mead, which unfortunately I haven't had a chance to sample yet. I keep trying to get him to mail me some.
Quote from: citizen k on November 05, 2009, 04:46:04 AM
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This pic made me giggle. The spiced cranberry mead I made has about 1.5" of sediment at the bottom of it, the most I've ever seen in one of my meads. I've a feeling that it's going to be very potent. :ph34r:
It's called 'slurry'. :smarty:
You can always save it and make Marmite out of it. :smoke:
Ooo... I like marmite, but I'm not sure I could do that. Whenever I see it, all I can think is: Oh, look at all that yeast poop!
Quote from: merithyn on November 05, 2009, 06:49:21 AM
Ooo... I like marmite, but I'm not sure I could do that. Whenever I see it, all I can think is: Oh, look at all that yeast poop!
Well, they must do something to make marmite taste like marmite. I've tasted yeast slurry and I wouldn't exactly call it appetizing.
Tonight, I'm going to attend a tasting of a cask-conditioned ale brewed in Mississippi. It's a benefit for http://raiseyourpints.com/ . Go, beer advocacy!
Quote from: Scipio on November 05, 2009, 07:07:39 AM
Tonight, I'm going to attend a tasting of a cask-conditioned ale brewed in Mississippi. It's a benefit for http://raiseyourpints.com/ . Go, beer advocacy!
Hey, you're lucky you don't live like 50 miles or so to the east. Did you know homebrewing is actually illegal in Alabama?