Rennaissance popes would be proud. It's not exactly granting a bishopry to a child, but it may be the closest thing you can get in the XXIst century in a western nation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8304809.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8304809.stm)
QuoteSarkozy defends son's top-job bid
French President Nicolas Sarkozy says his 23-year-old son has been "thrown to the wolves" over a bid to secure a top-level business job.
A national row has erupted over 23-year-old Jean Sarkozy seeking to become head of Epad, which manages La Defense, France's top business district.
Amid calls of nepotism, more than 40,000 people signed an online petition calling for Mr Sarkozy Jnr to pull-out.
Despite the furore, allies of Jean Sarkozy say he is the "natural" choice.
Jean Sarkozy, who is currently a councillor for the wealthy Parisian district of Neuilly, says he has faced "violent personal attacks" in his bid to head the development agency for La Defense, west of Paris.
"Whatever I say, whatever I do, I will be criticised. When you enter this profession, you expect it and prepare for it," he said.
"Being called Sarkozy makes things harder, as is evident from the violent personal attacks I have faced from the outset."
President Sarkozy defended his son, saying: "It is never right for someone to be thrown to the wolves, without reason and in an excessive manner."
'Clan politics'
Following the announcement last week that Jean Sarkozy was favourite to replace Minister for Economic Recovery Patrick Devedjian at Epad, some left-wing politicians have condemned the move as "clan politics".
Socialist parliamentarian Michele Delaunay condemned "a policy of clans, family and personal interests".
Despite cries of nepotism and protests that he is too inexperienced - supporters of Jean Sarkozy say he is a "mature, natural choice" for the role at Epad.
Government minister and spokesman Luc Chatel said: "I am extremely shocked about what has happened. I think we are facing another witch-hunt.
"Being the president's son does not confer any extra rights, but it does not give you any fewer, either," Mr Chatel added.
The choice of who will head Epad will be decided by the organisation's board members in December.
Several major corporations and banks have their headquarters at La Defense, a modern development noted for its skyscrapers.
Socialist parliamentarian Michele Delaunay condemned "a policy of clans, family and personal interests".
Of Course they are. They are a right wingers.
Outrageous. There are millions of youth unable to find jobs after their studies and this bitch gets a superior executive position for being the 'son of'. <_<
G.
"Does Carla sleep with Jean on the side?"
I like to think she does. :hug:
This is exactly the kind of behavior I would expect from a man who shook George Bush's hand. :mad:
Abusing the office to get his son an application for a job. Outrageous! :angry:
This sucks. All my father ever gave me was a summer job scanning files for him for $5.00 an hour. :mad:
The people of France are: naive.
Quote from: Caliga on October 14, 2009, 08:45:07 AM
The people of France are: naive.
Is it because they drink: evian?
Quote from: Valmy on October 14, 2009, 08:51:40 AM
Is it because they drink: evian?
No, they drink Evian because they are naive. :smarty:
His son is actually kinda cute. He has a "dauphinesque" appearance. :frog:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.purepeople.com%2Farticles%2F9%2F21%2F99%2F%40%2F4103-jean-sarkozy-637x0-1.jpg&hash=8be81ab8b15c122164b7d2e6b8b7a02d0850f4ac)
Great, a new Papamadi :mad:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Christophe_Mitterrand (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Christophe_Mitterrand)
Dude looks like he's nine.
Personally I don't mind nepotism as long as it only affects children of the highest officials and they are cute.
Quote from: Grallon on October 14, 2009, 08:05:08 AM
Outrageous. There are millions of youth unable to find jobs after their studies and this bitch gets a superior executive position for being the 'son of'. <_<
I agree-- this is shocking & totally unprecedented. And it only happens on the right :lol:
Quote from: derspiess on October 14, 2009, 09:29:33 AM
Quote from: Grallon on October 14, 2009, 08:05:08 AM
Outrageous. There are millions of youth unable to find jobs after their studies and this bitch gets a superior executive position for being the 'son of'. <_<
I agree-- this is shocking & totally unprecedented. And it only happens on the right :lol:
you realise of course that Sarkozy is a right-wing politician, right?
Quote from: Martinus on October 14, 2009, 09:33:07 AM
you realise of course that Sarkozy is a right-wing politician, right?
Yes. What's your point?
Quote from: Martinus on October 14, 2009, 09:09:59 AM
His son is actually kinda cute.
Both sons are quite cute but that's not the point.
To think there are people actually supporting this move on the grounds that he's now mature enough for the job.
This stinks of 'Ancient Régime'
G.
When the time comes can I man the guillotine? :)
Quote from: Grallon on October 14, 2009, 10:22:15 AM
To think there are people actually supporting this move on the grounds that he's now mature enough for the job.
Oh, the irony :lol:
Quote from: derspiess on October 14, 2009, 11:08:14 AM
Quote from: Grallon on October 14, 2009, 10:22:15 AM
To think there are people actually supporting this move on the grounds that he's now mature enough for the job.
Oh, the irony :lol:
Indeed. I bet he reads your comment and thinks "WTF is he TALKING about????? :ultra:"
He looks like somebody hit him in the face with a board. Is his upper lip naturally like that or does he get collagen?
In other nepotism news: Harry Reid's son is running for governor here.
Has Mitterand's nephew released a comment on the issue?
Gral, don't be ridiculous.
Quote from: derspiess on October 14, 2009, 11:08:14 AM
Oh, the irony :lol:
Don't tell me you compare managing one's wang with managing thousands of employees and bilions of $ in budget. Even you cannot be that dumb.
G.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 11:35:22 AM
Has Mitterand's nephew released a comment on the issue?
Yes.
"I am available, Jean." :perv:
Wow, only 23...they're not even trying to pretend its not nepotism here.
Quote from: Grallon on October 14, 2009, 11:49:30 AM
Don't tell me you compare managing one's wang with managing thousands of employees and bilions of $ in budget. Even you cannot be that dumb.
I was just noting the irony of you using "maturity" as a qualifier for anything, that's all.
Anyway, didn't Napoleon become a general at a similar age? :P
Quote from: Caliga on October 14, 2009, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 11:35:22 AM
Has Mitterand's nephew released a comment on the issue?
Yes.
"I am available, Jean." :perv:
:lol:
Man, I love the French. :lol:
Meh, France needs a monarchy again.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 14, 2009, 12:06:59 PM
Meh, France needs a monarchy again.
Agreed, and since France had so much luck with an Italian monarch last time, this time around I nominate Silvio. He can play hide and seek with Kaiserin Angela I in Versailles. :)
Quote from: Razgovory on October 14, 2009, 12:06:59 PM
Meh, France needs a monarchy again.
Yeah that will solve Nepotism!
Quote from: Caliga on October 14, 2009, 12:12:26 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 14, 2009, 12:06:59 PM
Meh, France needs a monarchy again.
Agreed, and since France had so much luck with an Italian monarch last time, this time around I nominate Silvio. He can play hide and seek with Kaiserin Angela I in Versailles. :)
:bleeding: Your anti-French jokes are groan worthy.
But I guess that is your intent :P
It was really more of a pro-Silvio joke. :cool:
Quote from: Valmy on October 14, 2009, 12:25:10 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 14, 2009, 12:06:59 PM
Meh, France needs a monarchy again.
Yeah that will solve Nepotism!
It's funny because France actually has one of the most "aristocratic" society of all European countries. Their entire social power structure is the so-called satellite/planetary system which is extremely aristocratic for a country supposedly at the forefront of "egalite fraternite liberte".
Quote from: Martinus on October 14, 2009, 12:45:03 PM
It's funny because France actually has one of the most "aristocratic" society of all European countries. Their entire social power structure is the so-called satellite/planetary system which is extremely aristocratic for a country supposedly at the forefront of "egalite fraternite liberte".
I take it Sarko is descended from Hungarian Jewish Dukes or something then?
I know they have the inbreeding elite of the Grandes Ecoles but we sorta have the same thing going on with the Ivy League.
Quote from: Valmy on October 14, 2009, 12:55:02 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 14, 2009, 12:45:03 PM
It's funny because France actually has one of the most "aristocratic" society of all European countries. Their entire social power structure is the so-called satellite/planetary system which is extremely aristocratic for a country supposedly at the forefront of "egalite fraternite liberte".
I take it Sarko is descended from Hungarian Jewish Dukes or something then?
I know they have the inbreeding elite of the Grandes Ecoles but we sorta have the same thing going on with the Ivy League.
I think it's different though. As far as I understand, in France people just fall into place with this stuff. At least as far as my cultural awareness tutor is to be believed. :P
Trators are traitors. They betrayed their King. They will get no peace, in this world or the next.
Quote from: The Brain on October 14, 2009, 01:18:44 PM
Trators are traitors. They betrayed their King. They will get no peace, in this world or the next.
Aren't trators like fish restaurant owners?
Quote from: Martinus on October 14, 2009, 03:06:41 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 14, 2009, 01:18:44 PM
Trators are traitors. They betrayed their King. They will get no peace, in this world or the next.
Aren't trators like fish restaurant owners?
You are a petty and quasi-gay man.
Quote from: Martinus on October 14, 2009, 01:08:55 PM
I think it's different though. As far as I understand, in France people just fall into place with this stuff. At least as far as my cultural awareness tutor is to be believed. :P
Maybe, but one of my good friends is a Ecole des Mines de Paris grad and his father was one of the Executives at Schlumberger. All he got was an internship at their office here in Austin and now he is a software engineer here and doing ok but hardly running any Parisian business districts. I would think if I was a MIT grad and my father was an executive at a huge multi-national I could do better than that but then I have a sample size of: 1.
It's just La Defense. A reasonably competent 23 year old is probably over-qualified.
Quote from: The Brain on October 14, 2009, 01:18:44 PM
Trators are traitors. They betrayed their King. They will get no peace, in this world or the next.
Mort aux tyransas would say Bernadotte :D