The venue for the 2016 Olympics is chosen today*, October 2nd, will be be coming to The New World.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/7884296.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympic_games/7884296.stm)
I thinks its a straight fight between the Obama effect backing Chicago vs Brazils growing economic and diplomatic presence swinging it for Rio.
Incidentally if Chicago does win, that mean the Olympics will take place at the height of the 2016 presidential election campaign, with it in some ways marking the end of a possible 8 year Obama presidency. I reckon that would be a rather good back drop to a political thriller, zeitgeist novel ? :unsure:
*proper time. :bowler:
I hope it says far, far away. All the world needs is a bunch of Chicagotards with an even more swollen ego.
Hopefully Tokyo. The US and Spain both had one last decade and Brazil is scary.
As long as the rest us aren't stuck with the tab I don't mind Chicago.
I'd prefer the Games to be in Brazil, I think. It would be appropriate given the size of their economy and the fact that the Games have never been to South America.
And I believe the bid city is Rio de Janeiro, isn't it? Good scenery never hurts the Olympics for a TV viewer.
Rio would be cool. I don't know how the athletes are going to compete without their kidneys though.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 01, 2009, 07:42:54 PM
Rio would be cool. I don't know how the athletes are going to compete without their kidneys though.
Oh come on - the athletes will be safe. It's the spectators who'll have to worry, and who's going to miss a few of them anyway... <_<
Quote from: Agelastus on October 01, 2009, 07:44:38 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 01, 2009, 07:42:54 PM
Rio would be cool. I don't know how the athletes are going to compete without their kidneys though.
Oh come on - the athletes will be safe. It's the spectators who'll have to worry, and who's going to miss a few of them anyway... <_<
Anybody who would actually go to the Olympics gets what they deserve.
This is foolish to worry about, as everyone knows the world ends in december 2012.
Anybody but the Brazilians. If the games has never been held in South America, then we must fight for the status quo.
Quote from: Monoriu on October 02, 2009, 04:42:29 AM
Anybody but the Brazilians. If the games has never been held in South America, then we must fight for the status quo.
The games have never been in Chicago either.
I don't think Madrid or Tokyo have got many chances.
Choosing Madrid would go against the non written rule that the Games won't take place in Europe several times in a row, respected since 1952. Our time will probably come in 2020 or never.
Tokyo... well, only 8 years after Beijing? Again, I don't think they have got many chances. Personally I would love to see how would the Japanese organize them (high jump for robots under 20 tons? ;) ) but I don't see it happening any time soon.
Probably it's Rio or Chicago, and I think the members of the Committee will feel the pinch that South America has never organized the Games.
Oh, some media in Spain have aired a supposed deal between Rio and Madrid. If one is eliminated, their supporters would vote for the other... but I wouldn't rely on that deal being real (or the committee members feeling compelled to respect such deal if it exists).
Quote from: Warspite on October 02, 2009, 04:59:01 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on October 02, 2009, 04:42:29 AM
Anybody but the Brazilians. If the games has never been held in South America, then we must fight for the status quo.
The games have never been in Chicago either.
I would be happy to see a rule that says the Olympics must not be held in any city that hasn't held it before. But I am willing to settle for the continent level :contract:
Anywhere but here, please.
Hopefully Rio. The opening ceremonies will feature tons of scantily dressed chicks with big boobs.
If it's Chicago, the opening ceremonies will feature tons of old guys with potbellies and surnames ending in -sky. :(
Quote from: Caliga on October 02, 2009, 05:39:32 AM
and surnames ending in -sky. :(
You mean -ski, Douchbagski.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 01, 2009, 07:42:54 PM
Rio would be cool. I don't know how the athletes are going to compete without their kidneys though.
:huh:
I'm all for Rio. Great city and it should easier for them because they're hosting the World Cup in 2014, so the Rio stadiums will be all nice and renovated.
Quote from: Sheilbh on October 02, 2009, 06:11:57 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 01, 2009, 07:42:54 PM
Rio would be cool. I don't know how the athletes are going to compete without their kidneys though.
:huh:
I'm all for Rio. Great city and it should easier for them because they're hosting the World Cup in 2014, so the Rio stadiums will be all nice and renovated.
Really? I think actually that could work against Rio...
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 02, 2009, 05:41:27 AM
You mean -ski, Douchbagski.
:rolleyes: It's often written both ways. In fact, I've known people named both Sikorsky and Sikorski.
Quote from: Alatriste on October 02, 2009, 05:04:29 AM
Tokyo... well, only 8 years after Beijing? Again, I don't think they have got many chances. Personally I would love to see how would the Japanese organize them (high jump for robots under 20 tons? ;) ) but I don't see it happening any time soon.
The Daily Telegraph has images of all four cities - three of them show the plans advanced for the games site with computer generated images. The Tokyo picture is a city view as Tokyo is now - with the recently completed life size model of the RX-78 Gundam occupying about a fifth of the view! :lol:
Quote from: Agelastus on October 02, 2009, 10:10:26 AM
Quote from: Alatriste on October 02, 2009, 05:04:29 AM
Tokyo... well, only 8 years after Beijing? Again, I don't think they have got many chances. Personally I would love to see how would the Japanese organize them (high jump for robots under 20 tons? ;) ) but I don't see it happening any time soon.
The Daily Telegraph has images of all four cities - three of them show the plans advanced for the games site with computer generated images. The Tokyo picture is a city view as Tokyo is now - with the recently completed life size model of the RX-78 Gundam occupying about a fifth of the view! :lol:
Link?
Quote from: Caliga on October 02, 2009, 07:57:27 AM
:rolleyes: It's often written both ways. In fact, I've known people named both Sikorsky and Sikorski.
Probably just depends on who was working at Immigration the day their ancestors got off The Boat...
Quote from: Caliga on October 02, 2009, 05:39:32 AM
If it's Chicago, the opening ceremonies will feature tons of old guys with potbellies and surnames ending in -sky. :(
:ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra:
Quote from: Caliga on October 02, 2009, 07:57:27 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 02, 2009, 05:41:27 AM
You mean -ski, Douchbagski.
:rolleyes: It's often written both ways. In fact, I've known people named both Sikorsky and Sikorski.
It does work both ways. I have relatives who spell the same name with a -ski.
Quote from: Barrister on October 02, 2009, 10:14:55 AM
Quote from: Caliga on October 02, 2009, 05:39:32 AM
If it's Chicago, the opening ceremonies will feature tons of old guys with potbellies and surnames ending in -sky. :(
:ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra: :ultra:
Ukes. :rolleyes:
I just read breaking news that Chicago has been eliminated.
Awesome. Fuck Chicago.
Typically I've seen Ukrainians spell it -sky and Poles -ski, but that is by no means universal.
Quote from: charliebear on October 02, 2009, 10:31:08 AM
I just read breaking news that Chicago has been eliminated.
Obama has been outmaneuvered again. :(
It's Madrid, Samaranch has spoken. When a president through 20 years begs on his life that the games come to his country, the game will come to his country.
QuoteChicago loses in bid to host 2016 Olympics
In a stunning upset, Chicago was ousted in the first round of voting to host the 2016 Olympics.
Chicago received the fewest number of votes in the first round, despite its star-studded last-minute pitch.
Tokyo was voted out soon after.
The decision caps a competition among four cities — Chicago, Madrid, Rio de Janeiro and Tokyo — to host the Games.
Chicago had several well-known lobbyists in Copenhagen. Foremost among them was President Barack Obama, who arrived Friday morning after an overnight flight.
The U.S., Obama told Olympic leaders, "is ready and eager to assume that sacred trust" of hosting the Games.
The president and his wife, fellow Chicagoan Michelle Obama, put their capital behind an enormous campaign to win the Olympics bid. Never before had a U.S. president made such an in-person appeal.
"I urge you to choose Chicago," Obama told members of the International Olympic Committee.
"And if you do — if we walk this path together — then I promise you this: The city of Chicago and the United States of America will make the world proud," the president said.
The four finalist cities have been making their cases to the IOC for more than a year, but many IOC members were believed to be undecided about which city they would vote for Friday. Some said they might not decide until after the cities made their final presentations in Copenhagen.
Michelle Obama, who grew up on Chicago's South Side, had two days of one-on-one meetings with IOC members, whom she assured of Chicago's sincerity to use the Olympics as inspiration for children who might not otherwise have reason to dream big.
One of the IOC members she chatted with on Thursday was former Russian swimming great Alexander Popov. After getting his picture taken with Mrs. Obama, Popov was ushered off to meet with talk show host Oprah Winfrey and Chicago Mayor Richard Daley.
Chicago's Olympic bid Photos: Chicago celebritiesdescended on Copenhagen in support of the city's bid for the 2016 Olympics.
Winfrey, who ranks second only to Angelina Jolie on Forbes' Celebrity 100 list, drew lots of attention at the IOC hotel, shaking hands and posing for photos. As she made her way into the restaurant, she chatted up IOC executive board member Gerhard Heiberg and Sam Ramsamy, an IOC member from South Africa.
"Whoever's there, I'll talk to them," Winfrey said.
The bidding process to host the Games began in May 2007. The four finalist cities were named in June 2008. Not making the final cut were Baku, Azerbaijan; Doha, Qatar; and Prague, Czech Republic.
The most recent Summer Olympics to be held in the United States were the 1996 Games in Atlanta.
The 2012 Games are scheduled for London.
http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/story/10154098?GT1=39002 (http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/story/10154098?GT1=39002)
I love the headline on Drudge - WORLD REJECTS OBAMA
WTF, I read somewhere that Chicago was a favorite to get the games, and yet they're the first ones out? Ouch, that can't look good for Obama.
Quote from: DGuller on October 02, 2009, 10:42:31 AM
WTF, I read somewhere that Chicago was a favorite to get the games, and yet they're the first ones out? Ouch, that can't look good for Obama.
That wouldn't have happened if McCain were president. :(
Aha, so thats why Obama was in Copenhagen, I was wondering about that.
Quote from: Liep on October 02, 2009, 10:37:41 AM
It's Madrid, Samaranch has spoken. When a president through 20 years begs on his life that the games come to his country, the game will come to his country.
Does rink hockey go olympic too?
Quote from: Tyr on October 02, 2009, 10:52:05 AM
Aha, so thats why Obama was in Copenhagen, I was wondering about that.
:yes: Apparently, this is more important than dealing with our massive domestic problems.
I guess you could argue that this would have been of economic benefit to Chicagoland, but we all know graft would have made the project drastically more expensive than it needed to be.
Samaranch is not dead yet? :unsure: What's the holdup?
Quote from: Caliga on October 02, 2009, 10:56:00 AM
I guess you could argue that this would have been of economic benefit to Chicagoland, but we all know graft would have made the project drastically more expensive than it needed to be.
:yes:
I heard that was a problem in Atlanta, so I can only imagine it'd be way worse in Chi-Town. :)
Quote from: Caliga on October 02, 2009, 10:56:00 AM:yes: Apparently, this is more important than dealing with our massive domestic problems.
It's been quite helpful to our government as distraction for a somewhat stupid crisis that will make heads roll. Or should, at least. Knowing how things work here everybody will properly keep their jobs, though.
Quote from: DGuller on October 02, 2009, 10:56:51 AM
Samaranch is not dead yet? :unsure: What's the holdup?
Not only that, he seems... unchanged. Either he has a handy trinket in his pocket to disappear when meetings become boring, or somewhere in his basement he hides a revealing portrait.
Quote from: DGuller on October 02, 2009, 10:42:31 AM
WTF, I read somewhere that Chicago was a favorite to get the games, and yet they're the first ones out? Ouch, that can't look good for Obama.
When he decided to go, I thought he must have had an indication he would be successful.
Oh well, maybe in 2020.
Well I look forward to Rio 2016.
7 years to get ready. What event do you plan on competing in? ;)
Quote from: Valmy on October 02, 2009, 11:24:29 AM
Well I look forward to Rio 2016.
Is that the inside dope? After all, we're still a few minutes before the announcement is made.
I think Chicago should blame -
(1) Atlanta
(2) Its cruddy finances (shutting down for a day! Come on...)
(3) George W Bush
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 02, 2009, 11:26:30 AM
7 years to get ready. What event do you plan on competing in? ;)
The Steeplechase
Quote from: Agelastus on October 02, 2009, 11:28:46 AM
Is that the inside dope? After all, we're still a few minutes before the announcement is made.
No just a guess.
QuoteI think Chicago should blame -
(1) Atlanta
(2) Its cruddy finances (shutting down for a day! Come on...)
(3) George W Bush
Hehe yeah Atlanta was pretty sucky. But then Atlanta is a shitty city so that should have not been a surprise to anybody.
Quote from: Alatriste on October 02, 2009, 11:13:08 AM
Quote from: DGuller on October 02, 2009, 10:56:51 AM
Samaranch is not dead yet? :unsure: What's the holdup?
Not only that, he seems... unchanged. Either he has a handy trinket in his pocket to disappear when meetings become boring, or somewhere in his basement he hides a revealing portrait.
Well, he better die soon, he doesn't have much time left.
And it's Rio. Who needs two kidneys anyway?
According to Reuters, we all have RIO to look forward to.
I'm very pleased. :)
Damn.
Beaten by 14 seconds. :(
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 02, 2009, 10:41:39 AM
I love the headline on Drudge - WORLD REJECTS OBAMA
Top story on Salon is the top story on drudge:
QuoteChicago loses Olympics bid; conservatives rejoice
*picture of drudge headline*
It's not often that conservatives celebrate the U.S. losing out to countries like Brazil and Spain, especially not when the loss involves a prominent event like the Summer Olympics. But when the International Olympic Committee eliminated Chicago as a potential host for the 2016 games in the first round of voting on Friday, the right broke out the champagne.
Higher body count, World Cup South Africa or Olympics Rio?
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 02, 2009, 12:05:51 PM
Higher body count, World Cup South Africa or Olympics Rio?
We need to decide what fraction of a body kidney is before being able to answer this question accurately.
Good for Chicago for dodging this mess. Would have been an expensive mess, though the, or we, taxpayers would have wound up bailing them out, while the connected people pulling the strings made big bucks via that corrupt Chicago political machine. Apparently many cities wind up losing money hosting the Olympics.
Quote from: DGuller on October 02, 2009, 11:51:12 AM
And it's Rio. Who needs two kidneys anyway?
I guess now would be a good time to hire out as mercenary to get rid of all the street kids. :shifty:
Quote from: Agelastus on October 02, 2009, 11:28:46 AM
Quote from: Valmy on October 02, 2009, 11:24:29 AM
Well I look forward to Rio 2016.
Is that the inside dope? After all, we're still a few minutes before the announcement is made.
I think Chicago should blame -
(1) Atlanta
(2) Its cruddy finances (shutting down for a day! Come on...)
(3) George W Bush
Shouldn't Salt Lake be more in people's memories? Wasn't that much more successful?
Quote from: Agelastus on October 02, 2009, 11:51:26 AM
According to Reuters, we all have RIO to look forward to.
I'm hard with anticipation.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 02, 2009, 12:17:16 PM
Shouldn't Salt Lake be more in people's memories? Wasn't that much more successful?
When selecting spots for the Summer Olympics? No.
Quote from: Valmy on October 02, 2009, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 02, 2009, 12:17:16 PM
Shouldn't Salt Lake be more in people's memories? Wasn't that much more successful?
When selecting spots for the Summer Olympics? No.
Olympics are Olympics.
Quote from: KRonn on October 02, 2009, 12:11:54 PM
Good for Chicago for dodging this mess. Would have been an expensive mess, though the, or we, taxpayers would have wound up bailing them out, while the connected people pulling the strings made big bucks via that corrupt Chicago political machine. Apparently many cities wind up losing money hosting the Olympics.
But it is a great way to raise the profile of a city.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 02, 2009, 12:22:38 PM
Olympics are Olympics.
No there is a big difference in profile between the Summer and Winter Olympics.
Quote from: Valmy on October 02, 2009, 12:26:57 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 02, 2009, 12:22:38 PM
Olympics are Olympics.
No there is a big difference in profile between the Summer and Winter Olympics.
Indeed. While the Winter Olympics are huge, the Summer ones read like a copy of Obscure Sports Quarterly, with a crappy basketball tournament tacked on.
Brazil will also host the 2014 Football World Cup. So investments in sport and tourism infrastructure can be spread over two massive events.
Quote from: Neil on October 02, 2009, 12:45:24 PM
Indeed. While the Winter Olympics are huge, the Summer ones read like a copy of Obscure Sports Quarterly, with a crappy basketball tournament tacked on.
Albertville, Nagano, Lake Placid? Those are hardly metropoli.
Quote from: KRonn on October 02, 2009, 12:11:54 PM
Good for Chicago for dodging this mess. Would have been an expensive mess, though the, or we, taxpayers would have wound up bailing them out, while the connected people pulling the strings made big bucks via that corrupt Chicago political machine. Apparently many cities wind up losing money hosting the Olympics.
You need watch a little less Glen Beck.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 02, 2009, 12:50:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 02, 2009, 12:45:24 PM
Indeed. While the Winter Olympics are huge, the Summer ones read like a copy of Obscure Sports Quarterly, with a crappy basketball tournament tacked on.
Albertville, Nagano, Lake Placid? Those are hardly metropoli.
Indeed. But the Games are massive events.
QuoteDon't fret Chicago; Detroit feels your pain
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Chicago 2016 supporters watch the announcement from the IOC on the host city for the 2016 Summer Olympic Games in Chicago today. (M. SPENCER GREEN/Associated Press)
BY MARK W. SMITH
FREE PRESS WEB EDITOR
There are surely some long faces in Chicago this afternoon after the Windy City was eliminated in the first round of voting to host the 2016 Olympics.
But you're not alone, Chicago. Detroit feels your pain.
Detroit is the city that has failed the most for its bid for an Olympic Games without ever hosting them, according to a story this week by the Economist.
Detroit has failed six times — in 1952, 1956, 1960, 1964, 1968 and 1972.
The Motor City was also a candidate for the 1944 Olympics before they were ultimately canceled due to World War II.
Los Angeles has also missed out on six bids, but has hosted the Games twice — in 1932 and 1984.
:(
Quote from: Razgovory on October 02, 2009, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: KRonn on October 02, 2009, 12:11:54 PM
Good for Chicago for dodging this mess. Would have been an expensive mess, though the, or we, taxpayers would have wound up bailing them out, while the connected people pulling the strings made big bucks via that corrupt Chicago political machine. Apparently many cities wind up losing money hosting the Olympics.
You need watch a little less Glen Beck.
Yep, 'cuz we all know Chicago is not rife with corruption :lol:
Quote from: Razgovory on October 02, 2009, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: KRonn on October 02, 2009, 12:11:54 PM
Good for Chicago for dodging this mess. Would have been an expensive mess, though the, or we, taxpayers would have wound up bailing them out, while the connected people pulling the strings made big bucks via that corrupt Chicago political machine. Apparently many cities wind up losing money hosting the Olympics.
You need watch a little less Glen Beck.
I don't see anything Glenn Becky in KRonn's comment. It's a pretty common criticism of the Olympics.
It's time for your meds, Raz.
Sav, why has it been so long since Detroit made a bid? Why not try again now? I mean, soon there will lots of open space on which to build in Detroit, yes? :)
Quote from: Caliga on October 02, 2009, 02:12:17 PM
Sav, why has it been so long since Detroit made a bid? Why not try again now? I mean, soon there will lots of open space on which to build in Detroit, yes? :)
Not only that; there would be records set in the marathon; since the Detroit marathon route takes one through areas that encourages one to run as quickly as possible.
Quote from: Razgovory on October 02, 2009, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: KRonn on October 02, 2009, 12:11:54 PM
Good for Chicago for dodging this mess. Would have been an expensive mess, though the, or we, taxpayers would have wound up bailing them out, while the connected people pulling the strings made big bucks via that corrupt Chicago political machine. Apparently many cities wind up losing money hosting the Olympics.
You need watch a little less Glen Beck.
Nah, I heard problems over money spending discussed elsewhere. Being expensive for various reasons, and that isn't something I realized before. I figured Olympic games were a great money maker for a city.
:lmfao:
But then again they might be really confused as to when the race really is supposed to start. :(
"...and there's the shot starting the... oh wait... no, that wasn't the right one either..."
Quote from: Savonarola on October 02, 2009, 02:17:58 PM
Quote from: Caliga on October 02, 2009, 02:12:17 PM
Sav, why has it been so long since Detroit made a bid? Why not try again now? I mean, soon there will lots of open space on which to build in Detroit, yes? :)
Not only that; there would be records set in the marathon; since the Detroit marathon route takes one through areas that encourages one to run as quickly as possible.
:lmfao:
Well, this clears the way for the 2020 Tulsa Olympics. :)
http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/olympic_bids/future_bids_2016/1216134562.html
Quote from: Fireblade on October 02, 2009, 03:51:12 PM
Well, this clears the way for the 2020 Tulsa Olympics. :)
'Ok you know that people say that Tulsa is the Paris of Oklahoma!'
'What? Who says that?'
'Um...people who have never been to Paris?'
Quote from: Valmy on October 02, 2009, 04:00:58 PM
Quote from: Fireblade on October 02, 2009, 03:51:12 PM
Well, this clears the way for the 2020 Tulsa Olympics. :)
'Ok you know that people say that Tulsa is the Paris of Oklahoma!'
'What? Who says that?'
'Um...people who have never been to Paris?'
lol, my college town (Conway) has been called "the Athens of Arkansas".
Presumably because everyone there is a wino sodomite.
Quote from: KRonn on October 02, 2009, 02:21:56 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 02, 2009, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: KRonn on October 02, 2009, 12:11:54 PM
Good for Chicago for dodging this mess. Would have been an expensive mess, though the, or we, taxpayers would have wound up bailing them out, while the connected people pulling the strings made big bucks via that corrupt Chicago political machine. Apparently many cities wind up losing money hosting the Olympics.
You need watch a little less Glen Beck.
Nah, I heard problems over money spending discussed elsewhere. Being expensive for various reasons, and that isn't something I realized before. I figured Olympic games were a great money maker for a city.
Athens certainly lost money. I think Sydney made money.
Since Beijing was more about politics than sport, I don't think it matters if the Games held there made money or not.
When judging if the Olympics make or lose money, are we talking the local government or the local economy as a whole?
Quote from: Fireblade on October 02, 2009, 04:04:47 PM
lol, my college town (Conway) has been called "the Athens of Arkansas".
Presumably because everyone there is a wino sodomite.
I thought that your drug of choice was pot, not alcohol.
Yay for Brazil. They seem so happy which wouldn't have really happened had it been the US.
CNN had a panel discussion of the impact of the decision on Obama's standing. Seriously slow news day.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 02, 2009, 12:50:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 02, 2009, 12:45:24 PM
Indeed. While the Winter Olympics are huge, the Summer ones read like a copy of Obscure Sports Quarterly, with a crappy basketball tournament tacked on.
Albertville, Nagano, Lake Placid? Those are hardly metropoli.
Not just conservatives are happy about it. Chicago would have killed Tahoe's chances for the 2018 Winter Games. Harry Reid is secretly pleased.