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Reprints of
Warlock of Firetop Mountain,
Citadel of Chaos, and
Deathtrap Dungeon, plus
Stormslayer, a new title. The DS game will be a first person FRP version of Warlock.
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QuoteIt's Back, It's Bigger, It's Better than Ever!
Fighting Fantasy is Back!
In September 2009, Wizard Books will publish three re-vamped Fighting Fantasy titles: The Warlock of Firetop Mountain, The Citadel of Chaos, and Deathtrap Dungeon. And also a brand new title, Stormslayer written by Jon Green. The new editions will be printed in B format size (larger than the old ones) and will feature new cover designs and pre-rolled characters. Watch out for them in your local bookshop or find them online at Amazon.co.uk
The all-new Fighting Fantasy gamebook series features a new, bigger B format, simplified rules and stock characters making it easier to pick up and play as well as teaser content from brand new Fighting Fantasy books. With over 1 million lifetime sales through Wizard Book we present the brilliant new title Stormslayer by Jonathan Green and illustrated by the fantastically talented Stephen Player to lead the launch with a massive online and print campaign.
All of the books are released on the 3rd September 2009 with 8 Fighting Fantasy titles in the brand-new format each year after 2009.
Book 1: The Warlock of Firetop Mountain
UK £ 5.99
This edition not available in the United States
ISBN 9781848310759
Book 2: Citadel of Chaos
UK £ 5.99
This edition not available in the United States
ISBN 9781848310766
Book 3: Deathtrap Dungeon
UK £ 5.99
This edition not available in the United States
ISBN 9781848310773
Book 4: Stormslayer
UK £ 5.99
This edition not available in the United States
ISBN 9781848310780
Book 4 will provide our fans with another exciting new Fighting Fantasy™ gamebook; Stormslayer.
In this exciting new Jonathon Green Fighting Fantasy adventure, the first new book in two years, after years of peace, the kingdom of Femphrey is at war again – and this time it's with the elements! Devastating storms sweep across the country, destroying all in their path. Blizzards and floods threaten some areas while others suffer the worst droughts seen in centuries. But is this climate chaos all it appears to be? Or is there some dark design to this meteorological meltdown?
YOU are a seasoned adventurer, known throughout the land. You have battled giants and slain dragons, but how can even a veteran warrior like yourself fight the weather? Are YOU ready to take up the challenge and face the perils that await you within the eye of the storm?
WE ASKED NICK AT WIZARD BOOKS THE QUESTIONS YOU WANTED TO ASK?
What is the motive behind the re-launch?
Nick: When we first started publishing Fighting Fantasy at Wizard – coming up for ten years ago now – we knew that it was still adored by its loyal fans. By this point, the books had been out of print for a few years, but everywhere we looked, the world of Fighting Fantasy was still thriving. We all remembered reading them when we were young (in fact, I was lucky enough to have Steve Jackson come and visit my school some years ago now!) and felt that if we could keep the magic that existing fans knew and loved alive then we would also be able to bring the series to a whole new generation of readers – and so keep the Fighting Fantasy community fresh and exciting.
Well, that was the plan and we were delighted when it worked brilliantly. The reception to the Wizard editions of Fighting Fantasy was incredible and the community has gone from strength to strength over the past years.
But time has passed, fans new and old are still with the books (some, like us, who have been fans since the 1980s!), and there's now a whole new wealth of potential young Fighting Fantasy heroes out there who we'd love to bring into the Fighting Fantasy community. We're so proud of how Fighting Fantasy has earned its place in the hearts of its fans and we're very conscious of our duty at Wizard to ensure we do the best we can to keep the community thriving.
So that was the motive behind the re-launch and we really hope that all Fighting Fantasy's existing readers, and all those we hope to attract to the series will like what we've done with the covers, the new titles, the new website and the fresh elements of the books. We publish Fighting Fantasy more than anything else because we love the books and the fans, and we very much hope to see the Fighting Fantasy community go on from strength to strength on the back of this re-launch for many years to come.
Why did you choose to re-position the Fighting Fantasy series in a different way than before whilst also re-numbering the first series of books?
Nick: We thought long and hard about this! When we decided to make the changes to Fighting Fantasy we thought, well, what should those changes be? One thing was certain, we knew that we wanted to retain the appeal to existing fans and at the same time try and bring new members into the community. That's the thinking that underpinned our approach to the new covers.
So, as you'll see, a few things have changed but then some have remained the same too. Perhaps the biggest shift has been how we've positioned the books. Beforehand, with the design focused on the title, it was perhaps not immediately obvious to new readers that The Warlock of Firetop Mountain, for instance, was the beginning of a whole world of Fighting Fantasy adventures. And it's the world of Fighting Fantasy – Titan and its continents – that really makes it special. So with the new covers, we've aimed to make the books about the series, to really get across to new readers that Fighting Fantasy is this amazing world just waiting to be explored. And of course for all the existing fans, we've kept the original cover artwork from the Wizard editions ... except of course on The Warlock of Firetop Mountain where Zagor is looking better than ever – not bad considering he's the oldest foe in Fighting Fantasy, having first appeared back in 1982!
As for the renumbering, we simply wanted to make it easier for new readers to keep track of the books as they gradually get to know the world of Fighting Fantasy. Also, although I suppose in some regards Stormslayer is technically #30 in the Wizard editions, we found that booksellers quite sensibly wouldn't have been too keen if we'd offered them four titles, numbered 1, 2, 3 and 30. So it was a choice made out of necessity really, but in many regards, Fighting Fantasy is all about exploring the world in your own way, so it doesn't strictly matter which order the books are read in.
What key factors affected the idea of a re-launch?
Nick: Well, other than those factors already mentioned, in our position as publishers, we were aware that since we started publishing Fighting Fantasy, the numbers of other books out there has grown and grown every year. As a result bookshop shelves have become more and more packed, brighter, more colourful. There are some great books out there, and we wanted to make sure that readers of all ages were aware of Fighting Fantasy. So the re-launch is a kind of celebration for the series, it's a special event that we're laying on some great extras for, so that as bookshelves become even more crowded, Fighting Fantasy remains at the top of the wave where we think it deserves to be.
What does the online publicity and marketing campaign involve? Please elaborate?
Nick: As part of our aim to support all the fans in the Fighting Fantasy community, we want to spread the word of Fighting Fantasy as far as possible. The official Fighting Fantasy website, the forum, indeed all the many fansites too, have shown just how much of a home the internet can provide for the Fighting Fantasy community. To help the community grow, we're planning to spread the word as far and wide as possible across the internet, both by having exclusive content, interviews and competitions on the official website, and also by running reviews, features and competitions for books with appropriate partners.
Elsewhere on the web, we also now have the brilliant new website designed and edited by Dave Holt. As well as that, Fighting Fantasy – and indeed, Balthazar Sturm from Stormslayer – are both tweeting and there's a Facebook page too. Basically, we want to give Fighting Fantasy's fans as many manageable ways as possible to find out more about the books and become involved with the vibrant community.
What changes can we expect from the re-launch? How have the books been changed for the reader?
Nick: In addition to the great new covers, the books themselves are a slightly larger size – one of the advantages of which means they can have bigger, newly designed, adventure sheets! We've also tried to make the books easier just to pick up and get stuck into, so we've moved all the rules and hint to the back of the book. Now you just grab your copy, open the pages, there's a brief introduction and then it's straight into the background and the adventure itself. Being a hero has never been simpler! And besides, we know that the rules are occasionally considered 'optional' by some readers ... don't be afraid to own up though, even the Fighting Fantasy editors need a little divine luck here and there too, and we have adventure walkthroughs showing us which way to go (yes, they do exist)!
Perhaps the most exciting addition to the books though is the new Fighting Fantasy adventurers that readers can choose to play with if they don't want to roll dice for their own attributes. When thinking about what we could add that would really benefit the Fighting Fantasy world, it was clear that the one thing missing was a network of characters that could shed light on the history of Titan, outside of those creatures from the pit. The reader is still the focus, of course, but hopefully by introducing Vignor Firestorm, Gorrin Silverblade, Ophelia Lapwing and others, it's a way of bringing their personalities and histories to the world of Fighting Fantasy.
One thing that has remained the same, however, is the adventures themselves. The classic favourites are still as brilliant as ever, and we're looking forward to the fans' reactions to Stormslayer too. We're proud to say we think it fully deserves its place in the Fighting Fantasy canon, let's see how it's rated on the website!
Didn't they do this just a few years back?
Quote from: Tyr on September 30, 2009, 07:46:10 AM
Didn't they do this just a few years back?
Yes. They're the Paradox Interactive of the publishing world. :blush:
Quote from: Caliga on September 30, 2009, 07:47:51 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 30, 2009, 07:46:10 AM
Didn't they do this just a few years back?
Yes. They're the Paradox Interactive of the publishing world. :blush:
Not quite. I imagine that if you buy the book, it'll be finished.
Quote from: Neil on September 30, 2009, 07:55:22 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 30, 2009, 07:47:51 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 30, 2009, 07:46:10 AM
Didn't they do this just a few years back?
Yes. They're the Paradox Interactive of the publishing world. :blush:
Not quite. I imagine that if you buy the book, it'll be finished.
BA-ZING
Quote from: Neil on September 30, 2009, 07:55:22 AM
Not quite. I imagine that if you buy the book, it'll be finished.
:lol:
To be fair, IIRC one of the books in the original FF line was unwinnable as published due to a typo on some monster's stats (it had a SKILL of 20).
Brings back memories of the past...
AFAIK, these gamebooks are still being sold and printed in France.
I hope the DS game won't be a casual gamer-friendly rehash.
Well, despite them "only being available in the United Kingdom" one can easily order them from Amazon.co.uk nowadays. That's how I obtained Bloodbones and Howl of the Werewolf.
The other day I bought a new FF title called Blood of the Zombies for my Droid. It's pretty neat. :) It was written by Ian Livingstone who wrote a bunch of the original books and now runs Eidos or something like that.
Quote from: Caliga on September 24, 2013, 07:37:14 PM
The other day I bought a new FF title called Blood of the Zombies for my Droid. It's pretty neat. :) It was written by Ian Livingstone who wrote a bunch of the original books and now runs Eidos or something like that.
Is it straight up the Fighting Fantasy system from the books, or are there any other bells and whistles?
Reminder: the Lone Wolf books are still available here:
http://www.projectaon.org/en/Main/Home
That's it, I'm buying Steve Jackson's Sorcery series books missing from my collection (first run)! This would be three out of four. :P Including the 800-paragraph one, Crown of Kings.
Quote from: Jacob on September 24, 2013, 11:28:42 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 24, 2013, 07:37:14 PM
The other day I bought a new FF title called Blood of the Zombies for my Droid. It's pretty neat. :) It was written by Ian Livingstone who wrote a bunch of the original books and now runs Eidos or something like that.
Is it straight up the Fighting Fantasy system from the books, or are there any other bells and whistles?
I barely have scratched the surface with the story (but already died once!) so am not sure TBH. There's a Rules/Help option on the main menu but hadn't looked at it. Before you start the story you roll (automated die roller, of course) for your STAMINA score, but you don't seem to have to roll for SKILL or LUCK or any of the other pools that the old books had (e.g. FEAR from House of Hell). There are three different play modes... 'Hardcore', which is supposed to be the same as playing thru a paper copy of the book, 'Moderate', which lets you cheat a few times by going back to an earlier section if you 'mess up', and also gives you a bonus to your STAMINA score, and 'Beginner', which does I forget what--I of course played it on 'Hardcore' since I'm very familiar with these books and am in no rush to finish the story, so don't care how often I die.
*THREAD NECRO*
I recently learned that there's been a bit of a renaissance of this art form, with more mature/complex gamebooks out now and even ones that are more open-world as opposed to having traditional linear storylines.
I have a Cthulhu-themed gamebook on the way called 'The House on Sentinel Hill' and there's a very highly-reviewed German gamebook called 'Rider of the Black Sun' I may check out next.
Also, Fighting Fantasy itself continues to release new gamebooks... two came out last fall. They're published by Scholastic now.
Gallimard, one of the major publishing houses in France, keeps publishing them in new and improved editions, with the help of smaller RPG/hobby outfits (think of Scholastic the French version i.e Scriptarium), though not always art or cover wise (some are really awful in a generic MMORPG way), in collector editions. As a matter of fact, there is a really new one scheduled for May, first time in 30 years: Mysteries of Salamonis.
I see even speculation now on the web for old editions, most of the time not really rare (printed in tens of thousands back in the day).
Not just Fighting Fantasy, Lone Wolf (first new collector edition for 100 €?!) too or Sorcery! (5th edition is now sold out and some speculators are trying to scalp buyers).
Yeah, supposedly the Scholastic ones that are reprints have ditched the original artwork and most people seem to hate the new art. One of my favorite books, House of Hell, supposedly has horrible art in its latest Scholastic iteration.
Don't get me started, or I'll launch a contest or rather a poll about the worst new cover of classic gamebooks. :P
The Cthulhu gamebook is pretty good. I haven't finished it yet (it's very difficult) but it's both a good gamebook, and a good Cthulhu story especially because it involves my favorite antagonists from HPL's works.
Quote from: Caliga on March 30, 2023, 01:03:16 PMYeah, supposedly the Scholastic ones that are reprints have ditched the original artwork and most people seem to hate the new art. One of my favorite books, House of Hell, supposedly has horrible art in its latest Scholastic iteration.
That's Le Manoir de l'Enfer in French. Cover is horrible, though art inside was restored as in the early editions, unlike later editions, plus possible translation and text fixes. Five Editions all in all.
(https://www.gallimard-jeunesse.fr/assets/media/cache/cover_medium/gallimard_img/image/J01074.jpg)
I have read good reviews about the Call of Cthulhu gamebooks as well.
Bought an unpublished one in French, Secrets of Salamonis with a Collector's Edition release (bigger format, better paper quality and hardcover).
Gamebooks fans were enthralled by a promo stunt offering a pouch with two dice, with people desperately trying to find a bookshop offering one. :D
(https://www.gallimard-jeunesse.fr/assets/media/cache/cover_medium/gallimard_img/image/J04574.jpg)
Fun fact - my first contact with the Middle Earth universe was through this gamebook: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/92035.A_Spy_in_Isengard - it was also my gateway to MERP.
There was another gamebook series called TolkienQuest in the 80s, and those were among the best gamebooks ever IMO. They were really neat in that they had a hex map you could freely move around on, so they were sort of 'open world' like modern open world video games.
Quote from: Caliga on May 11, 2023, 11:17:38 AMThere was another gamebook series called TolkienQuest in the 80s, and those were among the best gamebooks ever IMO. They were really neat in that they had a hex map you could freely move around on, so they were sort of 'open world' like modern open world video games.
Yeah, the Isengard one I linked is one of those. You moved around Orthanc avoiding orc patrols, etc... it was really neat. As said, together with stuff like Hero Quest and Space Hulk it was my gateway to roleplaying.
Pity it's the only one I have from that series.
Quote from: celedhring on May 11, 2023, 11:34:59 AMYeah, the Isengard one I linked is one of those. You moved around Orthanc avoiding orc patrols, etc... it was really neat. As said, together with stuff like Hero Quest and Space Hulk it was my gateway to roleplaying.
Pity it's the only one I have from that series.
Oh, I assumed you put a link to one of the MERP gamebooks and didn't bother to look. :blush:
I had Night of the Nazgul and another one I forget the title of from TolkienQuest.
That Tolkien Quest ran into legal problems so it's hard to get these days. Not translated into French but there are (Brazilian) Portuguese editions, among other translations.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on May 11, 2023, 11:57:46 AMThat Tolkien Quest ran into legal problems so it's hard to get these days. Not translated into French but there are (Brazilian) Portuguese editions, among other translations.
Tolkien's estate sued them, no? I remember hearing something about that on a gamebook podcast.
Quote from: Caliga on May 11, 2023, 12:46:23 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on May 11, 2023, 11:57:46 AMThat Tolkien Quest ran into legal problems so it's hard to get these days. Not translated into French but there are (Brazilian) Portuguese editions, among other translations.
Tolkien's estate sued them, no? I remember hearing something about that on a gamebook podcast.
Something along those lines, yes.
QuoteThe publication of the series was plagued by legal problems. Iron Crown Enterprises, the publisher of Middle-earth Role Playing, had a license with Tolkien Enterprises to produce games based on Tolkien's work. They then forged a partnership with Berkley to publish these gamebooks. Two volumes came out in 1985 under the Tolkien Quest label, and an additional two were planned for 1986 under the new series title of Middle-earth Quest. Unfortunately, around the time that the fourth book was to be released, Tolkien Enterprises deemed the books in violation of the game license, which didn't include permission to print books. The first four books were recalled and destroyed, with the fourth book never even making it to market (though it was pictured in an advertisement published in Dragon #103). Some copies of the first three books do still exist, but they are quite rare. Several years after this incident, legal issues were resolved and publication began anew. Books five through eight were actually numbered one through four in denial of the existence of the earlier volumes. The series came to an end, however, before all of the volumes announced in the original 1985 and 1986 releases could see the light of day.
https://gamebooks.org/Series/270/Show (https://gamebooks.org/Series/270/Show)
I am not an expert, but that seems like a reasonable explanation.