I'm sure that would be stable and effective. :lol:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601116&sid=aCPmfLXmPP48
QuoteChavez, Qaddafi Seek Africa-South America NATO, Bank (Update1)
By Steven Bodzin and Daniel Cancel
Sept. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi and 28 other leaders from South America and Africa called for new links between the continents, including joint military, banking and mining efforts.
Chavez and Qaddafi proposed a military alliance mirroring the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, to counteract the influence of the U.S. and Europe. Chavez called for a unified mining company, oil company and bank as leaders including Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe highlighted their countries' resources.
"For African countries, it's closer to visit our brothers in South America. We share the same interests of liberation and revolutionary ideals," Qaddafi said yesterday at the Second Africa-South America summit, on the Venezuelan tourist island of Margarita. "Colonialism humiliated us, insulted us and robbed us of our riches."
Hosting the summit plays into Chavez's goal of diminishing what he calls "imperial" influences and boosting ties with allies including Angola and Nigeria, which, like Venezuela, are members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.
"It's a new hour in our history," Chavez said today. "We have many great leaders, many of them here today."
Joint Projects
More than 60 delegations planned to sign accords on trade, energy, mining and agriculture, Venezuela's foreign ministry said in a statement. Chavez announced accords with several African countries on joint mining and oil projects.
"We have the biggest permanent reservoir of clean water in the world and they call us the poor," Ecuador President Rafael Correa said. The countries talked of working together to develop natural resources to reduce reliance on former imperial powers.
Along with a joint statement touching on concerns from reform of the U.N. Security Council to shipping piracy, countries also sought bilateral agreements. Venezuela signed a memorandum of understanding with Sierra Leone to create a joint mining company and will sign similar agreements with Mali, Mauritania, Niger and Namibia, Chavez said.
Venezuela also is working with Angola, Tanzania and South Africa on mining agreements, Mining Minister Rodolfo Sanz said in an e-mailed statement. Chavez wants Venezuela to build small steel mills in Mauritania and Tanzania, Sanz said.
Venezuela will propose a joint state mining company for whatever countries in Africa and South America want to join, Chavez said.
"A state mining company of our own," he said. "Here, we have recovered gold mines, iron mines. These important resources were in the private hands of the local bourgeoisie and multinationals and smugglers of all sorts."
Chavez said his mining industry recently got "several billion dollars" in financing to be paid by dedicating a portion of gold, steel and diamond revenues to the debt. He didn't give further details.
Oil Agreements
Venezuela is interested in forming a joint state oil company among countries on the two continents, especially smaller producers, Chavez said. He said his country signed an accord with Mauritania to work together on oil refining and transport of refined products, and with Niger on joint oil production.
Venezuela is the biggest oil producer in South America. China National Petroleum Corp. is spending $5 billion in Niger to make the central African nation an oil producer.
Attendees to the summit, the second of its kind after a 2006 meeting in Abuja, Nigeria, ranged from Chilean President Michele Bachelet, who spoke about the global financial crisis, to Mugabe, who highlighted his country's mineral riches. Libya will host the next summit in 2011.
To contact the reporters on this story: Matthew Walter in Caracas at [email protected]; Daniel Cancel in Porlamar, Venezuela, at [email protected].
Last Updated: September 27, 2009 17:12 EDT
I agree with Chavez. This is exactly what we need.
The man is an idea factory.
This would be hilarious. Their flag would be an upside down NATO flag with the emblem crudely drawn.
Wow, what a kool kids klub. I guess it'd be nice for the west to able to swat them all at once.
I wasn't aware of the NATO banking and mining arms.
This is an awesome new idea. NATO are just too damn strong, its crazy that there's never ever been anything to oppose them.
Quote from: Tyr on September 29, 2009, 05:53:18 PM
This is an awesome new idea. NATO are just too damn strong, its crazy that there's never ever been anything to oppose them.
:lol:
Anyone else thinking "Warsaw Pact Wannabees". :rolleyes:
Warsaw Pact was a Soviet vehicle. This will be rudderless and therefore impotent.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 29, 2009, 06:05:45 PM
Warsaw Pact was a Soviet vehicle. This will be rudderless and therefore impotent.
They will be democratic and eglatarian with no single member dominating the others! :mad:
It will be the International Round Table of Anti-Colonial Action. It will be the Bolivarian Brambling Bulwark against Big Bullies. The Clueless Comrades' Congress.
The Peoples' Parliament of Peevish Proletarian Power Peculation.
The Deficient Duma of Depleting Dissociation.
The Egregious Equality Entant.
The Coalition of Communist Catamites.
The Larcenous League of Legal Looters.
The Collusion of Cracked Commie Caudillos.
The Federation of Federated Functionary Freeloaders.
The Union of Unionized Utilizers of Utilitarian Usurpation.
The Alliance of Aggressive Abrading Aggrandizers of Aplomb and Assiduity.
The Consanguinity of Correct Communal Commandeering
It will be awesome.I like the AAAAAA myself. Everyone can spell it.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 29, 2009, 06:36:10 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 29, 2009, 06:05:45 PM
Warsaw Pact was a Soviet vehicle. This will be rudderless and therefore impotent.
They will be democratic and eglatarian with no single member dominating the others! :mad:
It will be the International Round Table of Anti-Colonial Action. It will be the Bolivarian Brambling Bulwark against Big Bullies. The Clueless Comrades' Congress.
The Peoples' Parliament of Peevish Proletarian Power Peculation.
The Deficient Duma of Depleting Dissociation.
The Egregious Equality Entant.
The Coalition of Communist Catamites.
The Larcenous League of Legal Looters.
The Collusion of Cracked Commie Caudillos.
The Federation of Federated Functionary Freeloaders.
The Union of Unionized Utilizers of Utilitarian Usurpation.
The Alliance of Aggressive Abrading Aggrandizers of Aplomb and Assiduity.
The Consanguinity of Correct Communal Commandeering
It will be awesome.I like the AAAAAA myself. Everyone can spell it.
:D
Can we
please restore the post of the month competition? Pretty please?
I want to make my first ever nomination.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 29, 2009, 05:52:11 PM
I wasn't aware of the NATO banking and mining arms.
DOWN WITH NORTH AMERICAN TERRORISTS ORGANISATION
Quote from: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 06:02:06 PM
Anyone else thinking "Warsaw Pact Wannabees". :rolleyes:
Very much so,its Warsaw Pact: The Inevitable Dissapointing Sequel to a movie which wasn't all that great to begin with.
Quote"We have the biggest permanent reservoir of clean water in the world and they call us the poor," Ecuador President Rafael Correa said. The countries talked of working together to develop natural resources to reduce reliance on former imperial powers.
That's because, unlike you, we can get that clean water from the reservoir to people's homes. A miracle! :o
Quote from: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 06:02:06 PM
Anyone else thinking "Warsaw Pact Wannabees". :rolleyes:
They can, in fact, call it the "World Alliance to Resist Supremely Arrogant Westerners and
Plan to Achieve Compensation for Trilateralism."
Quote from: grumbler on September 30, 2009, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 06:02:06 PM
Anyone else thinking "Warsaw Pact Wannabees". :rolleyes:
They can, in fact, call it the "World Alliance to Resist Supremely Arrogant Westerners and
Plan to Achieve Compensation for Trilateralism."
So all these Third World Nations are actually angry at David Rockefeller?
That's a pretty good way of filling out the acronym WARSAW PACT Grumbler. I'm impressed. Tips :bowler:
He's been reading too many crappy DC comics.
Quote from: grumbler on September 30, 2009, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 06:02:06 PM
Anyone else thinking "Warsaw Pact Wannabees". :rolleyes:
They can, in fact, call it the "World Alliance to Resist Supremely Arrogant Westerners and
Plan to Achieve Compensation for Trilateralism."
:lol:
So I guess this will be the VENEZUELA PACT? I should think some of the nations would instead be forming a pact against him, or be thinking about it soon enough.
Quote from: KRonn on October 01, 2009, 08:36:34 AM
So I guess this will be the VENEZUELA PACT? I should think some of the nations would instead be forming a pact against him, or be thinking about it soon enough.
You'd think that, but Chavez has been pretty impressive in his ability to buy off leftist leaders all throughout Latin America and help them gain/retain power.
It all may well be a house of cards, but there's potential for some serious damage between now & the time it falls.
They should call it SPECTRE.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on September 30, 2009, 09:00:23 AM
Quote"We have the biggest permanent reservoir of clean water in the world and they call us the poor," Ecuador President Rafael Correa said. The countries talked of working together to develop natural resources to reduce reliance on former imperial powers.
That's because, unlike you, we can get that clean water from the reservoir to people's homes. A miracle! :o
That's because Western imperialists have been stealing all the rain from Africa and causing it to fall in Europe and North America. :(
Quote from: derspiess on October 01, 2009, 10:13:57 AM
Quote from: KRonn on October 01, 2009, 08:36:34 AM
So I guess this will be the VENEZUELA PACT? I should think some of the nations would instead be forming a pact against him, or be thinking about it soon enough.
You'd think that, but Chavez has been pretty impressive in his ability to buy off leftist leaders all throughout Latin America and help them gain/retain power.
It all may well be a house of cards, but there's potential for some serious damage between now & the time it falls.
At least Honduras did the right thing in going the other way with Presidents serving too long, or trying to do so. Though the US is on the wrong side of that, IMO.
If Tim writes what could happen in the future with this, is it still alt hist? ;) *hint hint*
I hope they do this, cause then NATO will have ACTUAL enemies to prepare to fight. I'd like to see any country in (or even half of the entire continent of) Africa go military budget to military budget against even minor European NATO members.