http://risen.deepsilver.com/blog/pages/en/news/news.php
Action RPG, from Piranha Bytes, the guys behind the first three Gothic games (unfortunately the third one was quite a dud). So here's hoping the makers to return to true form with an open world, good story and a dark fantasy setting (though from the screenies things seem to have a partially Carribean feel to it).
Comes out in a couple days.
I'd be tempted to preorder, but I already have Bioware's Dragon Age preordered, and after the Gothic 3 debacle I'd like to see reviews and player feedback first.
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More screens here:
http://www.worldofrisen.de/english/gallery_pic700.htm
Though I have to say that the character models look dated.
Don't know what it is with Gothic. I didn't think any of the games were very good. The voice acting was some of the worst I'd ever heard. Controls were always difficult and iffy. Fighting was a pain in the ass. I don't know why Gothic 3 would be worse.
I already used a "smoking the hookah" joke on Languish years ago :(
Quote from: Razgovory on September 26, 2009, 02:52:53 PM
Don't know what it is with Gothic. I didn't think any of the games were very good. The voice acting was some of the worst I'd ever heard. Controls were always difficult and iffy. Fighting was a pain in the ass. I don't know why Gothic 3 would be worse.
Agreed. IIRC, Gothic 2 didn't even have mouse support for lists! Gameplay issues made those games losers, IMO, even if there was a potentially interesting story under the hood (once you had made five or six levels so that you could take on rats one-on-one with some hope of success).
When I first tried Gothic 2 I thought it sucked. When I tested it again a couple of months later and didn't get distracted by the fugly and non-mouse-supporting menus I realized that it rocked. It was a completely awesome game.
One of the many great things about it was that you could easily wander into monsters that were way beyond what you could handle. You hade to display some judgment when picking fights. Running away was commonly a great choice.
Obviously a person who struggled with rats may just have been skillfully challenged.
Quote from: The Brain on September 27, 2009, 02:30:20 AM
When I first tried Gothic 2 I thought it sucked. When I tested it again a couple of months later and didn't get distracted by the fugly and non-mouse-supporting menus I realized that it rocked. It was a completely awesome game.
One of the many great things about it was that you could easily wander into monsters that were way beyond what you could handle. You hade to display some judgment when picking fights. Running away was commonly a great choice.
Obviously a person who struggled with rats may just have been skillfully challenged.
I tend to agree. About the combat though with some skill and when you started to "get" the combat system you could easily take down some hard monsters. Remembering killing the mountain troll as pretty low level.
I liked Gothic 2.
I have Dragon Age or whatever on my wish list but the Marilyn Manson music in all the trailers really pissed me off. :P
Quote from: Jaron on September 27, 2009, 05:51:49 AM
I liked Gothic 2.
I have Dragon Age or whatever on my wish list but the Marilyn Manson music in all the trailers really pissed me off. :P
Risen uses Nightwish. :P
Quote from: Jaron on September 27, 2009, 05:51:49 AM
I have Dragon Age or whatever on my wish list but the Marilyn Manson music in all the trailers really pissed me off. :P
The ads and trailers for Dragon Age are simply awful. This is the first time advertising has caused a game to fall off of my must buy list. I definitely won't be getting it until I've read reviews from rpg players on the net stating that it isn't a sack of shit.
I've never attempted Gothic 2 but Gothic 1 was simply horrid.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on September 27, 2009, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 27, 2009, 05:51:49 AM
I have Dragon Age or whatever on my wish list but the Marilyn Manson music in all the trailers really pissed me off. :P
The ads and trailers for Dragon Age are simply awful. This is the first time advertising has caused a game to fall off of my must buy list. I definitely won't be getting it until I've read reviews from rpg players on the net stating that it isn't a sack of shit.
It LOOKS good, and Bioware has a good record. I'm just worried I'm going to start killing stuff and its going to cue the death metal to start playing. :P
Played Risen a bit yesterday. It feels a lot like Gothic 2 in a Gothic 3 engine. Landscapes are pretty, character animations look dated and wooden. You are stranded on an island (this time themed after Spanish colonies ca. 16th century). The world is overrun by evil forces, the inquisition locks themselves up in the only harbor town, bandits have a camp elsewhere, and between them stand the mages. You choose which faction to join and (presumably) save the world.
If you liked Gothic 2 you may want to take a look as gameplay is pretty much identical (combat, picking herbs, character development via learning points + trainers etc.). Though you may want to wait for the price to drop - the game does just not seem to offer much new. If you hated Gothic 2 you should stay clear.
One of the reviews of amazon says pretty much the opposite: It's basicly Gothic 2 with different names. If you don't know Gothic 2 you might enjoy it but otherwise too much déjà-vu. Any truth to that?
Quote from: Winkelried on October 03, 2009, 12:58:44 PM
One of the reviews of amazon says pretty much the opposite: It's basicly Gothic 2 with different names. If you don't know Gothic 2 you might enjoy it but otherwise too much déjà-vu. Any truth to that?
Yeah. Normally, when playing a new RPG one of the things I look forward to the most is exploring the world. Gothic 1 & 2 were fun, as was Morrowind and Baldur's Gate or Fallout series. However, with Risen I have a strong feeling of, "Wait a sec, this seems very familiar". Maybe that'll change over the course of the campaign, but that is one of the main reasons I feel a bit underwhelmed. The idea to give it a bit of a Spanish colonial veneer (and the inclusion of Slavic names) is nice, but it indeed feels much like Gothic 2 with a new coating.
Quote from: Jaron on September 27, 2009, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on September 27, 2009, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: Jaron on September 27, 2009, 05:51:49 AM
I have Dragon Age or whatever on my wish list but the Marilyn Manson music in all the trailers really pissed me off. :P
The ads and trailers for Dragon Age are simply awful. This is the first time advertising has caused a game to fall off of my must buy list. I definitely won't be getting it until I've read reviews from rpg players on the net stating that it isn't a sack of shit.
It LOOKS good, and Bioware has a good record. I'm just worried I'm going to start killing stuff and its going to cue the death metal to start playing. :P
Gotta agree. It looks totally fucking awesome.
It sounds, however, like a sack of flaming dog shit.
First of all, the music in the Dragon Age trailers is at best Nu Metal, whichs indeed sucks.
(Death Metal would be more something like Arch Enemy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9AcG0glVu4)).
Still, you guys don't need to get your frilly panties in a bunch since it appears that this is the official theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaEVE08cDpo
It's not specifically music but rather the horrible shitty trailers in general that make the game look like it's aimed squarely at 14 year old Xbox tards that leave one worried.
I can only hope that the EA marketing goons are forcing them to misrepresent the game.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on October 04, 2009, 01:54:15 AM
It's not specifically music but rather the horrible shitty trailers in general that make the game look like it's aimed squarely at 14 year old Xbox tards that leave one worried.
I can only hope that the EA marketing goons are forcing them to misrepresent the game.
Well, they'll have a problem with that over here, as at least in Germany/Austria the game is rated 18+, making sales to minors illegal.
It'll also be 18+ in the UK, though I don't know how much it's enforced over there.
The music of battle should be the screams of the dying and the wet sound of metal connecting with flesh and bone.
Drums can carry the beat, if the soldiers are an un-swedish lot who need help with that sort of thing.
Are you saying that by now through excessive immigration all Swedish soldiers are black and therefore have natural rhythm?
Quote from: The Brain on October 04, 2009, 05:24:09 AM
Are you saying that by now through excessive immigration all Swedish soldiers are black and therefore have natural rhythm?
I was going to claim superior swedish marching discipline but now that you mention it... :weep:
Well this game certainly didnt have the usual easy as shit learning curve games tend to have these days. I actually died a few times from being ganged on by the wolves.
Yeah, one of PB's trademarks. You can go anywhere, but chances are you'll die. In the beginning it's advisable to run past animals if possible. Usually they'll threaten and not attack if you don't go too close or linger too long.
So any idea whether to go with the bandits or the inquisition?
Played the demo some. Was meh and I didn't feel like playing more. So far it's just as great as Gothic 2 (pbui)!! :w00t:
Kinda liking this (never played any of the "Gothic" games). I'm getting kind of swamped by quests and shit though, since I apparently cant go anywhere without talking to every NPC in sight.
Went with the monks instead of the other dudes.