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Title: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Brazen on September 24, 2009, 10:31:26 AM
Nice little article about McD's outlet density in the US. Somewhere in Dakota, there's a place that's 145 miles by car to the nearest branch. Heaven!

http://www.weathersealed.com/2009/09/22/where-the-buffalo-roamed/

QuoteWhere the buffalo roamed

This summer, cruising down the I-5 through California's Central Valley to the Los Angeles Basin, I unwittingly stumbled upon a most exasperating development: the country strip mall.  First, let me state that I don't hate.  I've got nothing against Petco, Starbucks, OfficeMax, et al.  When overcome by the desire for a cubic yard of kitty litter, a carafe of pre-Columbian frappasmoochino, or fifty gross of pink highlighter pens, I'm there in a jiffy!

But, Mr. Real Estate Tycoon, did you have to plop your shopping center smack dab in the middle of what was previously nowhere?  Okay, the land was cheap.  And yes, you did traffic studies and proved that the interstate and distant suburbs would drench whatever you built in a raging torrent of eager consumerism.  But your retail monstrosity drains the wildness from the countryside for twenty miles in every direction!  Sure, you can't see it from everywhere - but once you know it's there, you feel it.  In the rural drawl of a neighboring rancher, that flat-out sucks!

Which begs the question: just how far away can you get from our world of generic convenience?  And how would you figure that out?

As I hurtled down the highway, a pair of golden arches crept over the horizon, and the proverbial lightbulb smacked me in the forehead.  To gauge the creep of cookie-cutter commercialism, there's no better barometer than McDonald's – ubiquitous fast food chain and inaugural megacorporate colonizer of small towns nationwide.

So, I set out to determine the farthest point from a Micky Dee's – in the lower 48 states, at least.  This endeavor required information, and the nice folks at AggData were kind enough to provide it to me: a complete list of all 13,000-or-so U.S. restaurants, in CSV format, geolocated for maximum convenience.  From there, a bit of software engineering gymnastics, and...

Behold, a visualization of the contiguous United States, colored by distance to the nearest domestic McDonald's!
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.weathersealed.com%2Fmaps%2Fmcd_us_high.jpg&hash=046dde89350744d0c6fe2b59c8b5febe3c0bbf3e)

You can download a bigger, wallpaper-ready version of the visualization, too!

As expected, McDonald's cluster at the population centers and hug the highway grid.  East of the Mississippi, there's wall-to-wall coverage, except for a handful of meager gaps centered on the Adirondacks, inland Maine, the Everglades, and outlying West Virginia.

For maximum McSparseness, we look westward, towards the deepest, darkest holes in our map: the barren deserts of central Nevada, the arid hills of southeastern Oregon, the rugged wilderness of Idaho's Salmon River Mountains, and the conspicuous well of blackness on the high plains of northwestern South Dakota.  There, in a patch of rolling grassland, loosely hemmed in by Bismarck, Dickinson, Pierre, and the greater Rapid City-Spearfish-Sturgis metropolitan area, we find our answer.

Between the tiny Dakotan hamlets of Meadow and Glad Valley lies the McFarthest Spot: 107 miles distant from the nearest McDonald's, as the crow flies, and 145 miles by car!

Suffer a Big Mac Attack out there, and you're hurtin' for certain!  For a coupla hours, at least, unless graced by the tender blessings of "manna from heaven" - that is, a fast food air drop from the Medi-Copter.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Malthus on September 24, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
It would be amusing to see just how far you could get from one in Canada.  ;)
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Caliga on September 24, 2009, 10:39:11 AM
We don't have a ton of McDonalds here, due to the dominance of Yum! Brands on its home turf.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Grey Fox on September 24, 2009, 10:39:24 AM
Samething with Burger King now.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Caliga on September 24, 2009, 10:43:12 AM
btw, Brazen, I don't think you would find any spot in the US located 145 miles from a McDonalds to be heaven, unless you like corn, corn, corn, and more corn... and that's it.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Barrister on September 24, 2009, 12:08:39 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
It would be amusing to see just how far you could get from one in Canada.  ;)

When I lived in St. Paul, Alberta, the nearest McD's was at least an ahour away.

The only McD's in Yukon is in Whitehorse.  So if you lived in an outlying community a Big Mac could be 5 hours away.

I very much doubt there's a McD's in Nunavut.  There wasn't in Iqaluit, the capital.  So that's at least a 1000kms away.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Tonitrus on September 24, 2009, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 24, 2009, 12:08:39 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
It would be amusing to see just how far you could get from one in Canada.  ;)

When I lived in St. Paul, Alberta, the nearest McD's was at least an ahour away.

The only McD's in Yukon is in Whitehorse.  So if you lived in an outlying community a Big Mac could be 5 hours away.

I very much doubt there's a McD's in Nunavut.  There wasn't in Iqaluit, the capital.  So that's at least a 1000kms away.

Hell, they probably don't even have a Tim Horton's.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: KRonn on September 24, 2009, 12:18:31 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
It would be amusing to see just how far you could get from one in Canada.  ;)
My first trips to Canada years ago, and I expected something a bit different, but then I saw MacDonalds and various other fast food places from the US.  Kind of a bummer, but no surprise of course. Though  Quebec definitely had a different feel to it. Wasn't sure if they liked us from the lower 48, with us speaking the King's English and all. Too bad though, I couldn't hide the fact that I was an American (while in Quebec) by claiming to be Canadian.    :cool:
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: DisturbedPervert on September 24, 2009, 12:21:34 PM
It'd be interesting to see a world map of this.  KFC too.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Barrister on September 24, 2009, 12:22:17 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 24, 2009, 12:18:31 PM
My first trips to Canada years ago, and I expected something a bit different, but then I saw MacDonalds and various other fast food places from the US. 

Ah, but those were Canadian McDonald's you saw.  Very different than your American ones.  They have a completely different logo, for one.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newswire.ca%2Fimages%2Fcompanies%2Flogo_90450.gif&hash=2f9f30019a791b7d5e7b41e4c6457c88c4aad0ac)
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Grey Fox on September 24, 2009, 12:23:32 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 24, 2009, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 24, 2009, 12:08:39 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
It would be amusing to see just how far you could get from one in Canada.  ;)

When I lived in St. Paul, Alberta, the nearest McD's was at least an ahour away.

The only McD's in Yukon is in Whitehorse.  So if you lived in an outlying community a Big Mac could be 5 hours away.

I very much doubt there's a McD's in Nunavut.  There wasn't in Iqaluit, the capital.  So that's at least a 1000kms away.

Hell, they probably don't even have a Tim Horton's.

They don't now but apparently Iqualuit will get one.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Ed Anger on September 24, 2009, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 24, 2009, 12:22:17 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 24, 2009, 12:18:31 PM
My first trips to Canada years ago, and I expected something a bit different, but then I saw MacDonalds and various other fast food places from the US. 

Ah, but those were Canadian McDonald's you saw.  Very different than your American ones.  They have a completely different logo, for one.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newswire.ca%2Fimages%2Fcompanies%2Flogo_90450.gif&hash=2f9f30019a791b7d5e7b41e4c6457c88c4aad0ac)

gay.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: KRonn on September 24, 2009, 12:25:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 24, 2009, 12:22:17 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 24, 2009, 12:18:31 PM
My first trips to Canada years ago, and I expected something a bit different, but then I saw MacDonalds and various other fast food places from the US. 

Ah, but those were Canadian McDonald's you saw.  Very different than your American ones.  They have a completely different logo, for one.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.newswire.ca%2Fimages%2Fcompanies%2Flogo_90450.gif&hash=2f9f30019a791b7d5e7b41e4c6457c88c4aad0ac)
Oh nice, so I was getting Canadian culture stuff after all!
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Grey Fox on September 24, 2009, 12:27:33 PM
Did you try Poutine?
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Josquius on September 24, 2009, 12:28:27 PM
In the UK (or the north at least) it's Greggs which is everywhere. Sometimes you have two of them on the same street even <_<
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Barrister on September 24, 2009, 12:31:13 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 24, 2009, 12:28:27 PM
In the UK (or the north at least) it's Greggs which is everywhere. Sometimes you have two of them on the same street even <_<

In Vancouver Jacob pointed out to me a place where there were two Starbucks across the street from each other.  :lol:
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: DisturbedPervert on September 24, 2009, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 24, 2009, 12:22:17 PM
Ah, but those were Canadian McDonald's you saw.  Very different than your American ones. 

The McMoose is delicious.  :mmm:
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Ed Anger on September 24, 2009, 12:38:40 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 24, 2009, 12:31:13 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 24, 2009, 12:28:27 PM
In the UK (or the north at least) it's Greggs which is everywhere. Sometimes you have two of them on the same street even <_<

In Vancouver Jacob pointed out to me a place where there were two Starbucks across the street from each other.  :lol:

Thankfully, the decline of Starbucks is weeding that shit out.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: The Brain on September 24, 2009, 12:40:31 PM
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa299%2FSlayhem%2FMcD.jpg&hash=1c4de1012f6e8d74820aca5caca29fca64482603)
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 24, 2009, 01:08:13 PM
McGriddles are incredibly good.  If only they weren't the food equivalent of a H-Bomb.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: lustindarkness on September 25, 2009, 01:07:39 PM
That is a beautiful map.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Ideologue on September 25, 2009, 01:12:59 PM
Finland sure is lakey.

This isn't really apropos of anything, but is "pre-Columbian" in any wise an adjective that actually applies to coffee?  If so, how do they know?
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: garbon on September 25, 2009, 02:02:04 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
It would be amusing to see just how far you could get from one in Canada.  ;)

Why would that be interesting? I mean, it isn't as if Canadians populate most of Canada's territory.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Malthus on September 25, 2009, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 25, 2009, 02:02:04 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
It would be amusing to see just how far you could get from one in Canada.  ;)

Why would that be interesting? I mean, it isn't as if Canadians populate most of Canada's territory.

That's why it would be amusing.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Caliga on September 25, 2009, 03:27:30 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 25, 2009, 01:12:59 PM
Finland sure is lakey.
It won't be for much longer.  THANKS ALOT, ISOSTATIC REBOUND.  :mad:
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Barrister on September 25, 2009, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 25, 2009, 02:08:15 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 25, 2009, 02:02:04 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 24, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
It would be amusing to see just how far you could get from one in Canada.  ;)

Why would that be interesting? I mean, it isn't as if Canadians populate most of Canada's territory.

That's why it would be amusing.

Thinking about it, the furthest sport from a McD's is almost certainly Alert, Nunavut, on the northern tip of Ellesmere Island.  Nearest McD would be Yellowknife, a couple thousand klicks away.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: sbr on September 25, 2009, 03:33:51 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 24, 2009, 12:28:27 PM
In the UK (or the north at least) it's Greggs which is everywhere. Sometimes you have two of them on the same street even <_<

It's like Starbucks out here in Oregon; there are many intersections with a Starbucks at multiple corners.  I think I remember seeing a strip mall that had two Starbucks in it; one inside the grocery store and a stand alone store at the other end of the mall.  :blink:
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Josephus on September 25, 2009, 04:05:10 PM
I'd love to try some Mc Baby Seal up in Nunavut.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: garbon on September 25, 2009, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 25, 2009, 02:08:15 PM
That's why it would be amusing.

To know that Canada is irrelevant? Not amusing...sad maybe. :(
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Agelastus on September 25, 2009, 05:07:26 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 24, 2009, 12:28:27 PM
In the UK (or the north at least) it's Greggs which is everywhere. Sometimes you have two of them on the same street even <_<

It's just a shame that Greggs food is so shit, or, at least, that is true of where I live.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Sheilbh on September 25, 2009, 05:24:21 PM
I hate Greggs <_<
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Malthus on September 25, 2009, 05:25:35 PM
Quote from: garbon on September 25, 2009, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 25, 2009, 02:08:15 PM
That's why it would be amusing.

To know that Canada is irrelevant? Not amusing...sad maybe. :(

:mellow:
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: garbon on September 25, 2009, 06:08:33 PM
The garbon smiley doesn't become you.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Zoupa on September 25, 2009, 10:24:56 PM
You're the one that's irrelevant my dear, what with the one-trick pony thing you got going.

Plus you never were amusing.

So you really don't bring much to the forum do you, apart from a place to plug your game mods.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: garbon on September 25, 2009, 10:34:44 PM
:)
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: Zoupa on September 25, 2009, 10:38:06 PM
That only work when I do it, pumpkin.
Title: Re: The McFarthest spot
Post by: garbon on September 25, 2009, 11:11:59 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 25, 2009, 10:38:06 PM
That only work when I do it, pumpkin.

Works what?