Qaeda tells Germany to change government: monitors (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g_QU9rxevD-Fo5-vTOobM4c0Sjeg)
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NICOSIA — Al-Qaeda warned Germans on Friday to change their government in the September 27 election, saying they will face a "bad awakening" if they do not, according to two intelligence monitoring services.
Germany was also told to withdraw its 4,200 troops from Afghanistan or face being attacked at home, the US-based groups said.
In video footage a man identified as Abu Talha the German, and speaking in German, says that if Chancellor Angela Merkel is re-elected, "bitter times await the Germans," according to IntelCenter and the SITE Intelligence Group.
He asks: "Mrs Merkel, what is the logical outcome reaped by the British and Spanish conservatives by their support for the Iraq war?" in an apparent reference to attacks in Madrid and London in 2004 and 2005.
He appears to suggest that if German voters do not heed his warnings, Al-Qaeda will act within a fortnight.
Germany's interior ministry said on Friday there was an increased risk of attacks on German soil ahead of the elections, and said security at airports and train stations had been boosted.
Addressing German Muslims Abu Talha says: "Al-Qaeda asks you to stay away from all that is not necessary in the two weeks that follow the elections, if the German people does not decide to withdraw its soldiers from Afghanistan. Keep your children near you in this period."
Abu Talha, whose real name is said to be Bekkay Harrach, stands in front of a red backdrop, wearing a jacket and tie.
He is said by the German authorities to be a native of Morocco, and in his early 30s, who has lived intermittently in Bonn and is now thought to be in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area.
In the footage he asks Muslim youths in Germany to let Al-Qaeda act first if the jihad were to begin in Germany, and says they will be told if action is required afterwards.
He also said the city of Kiel "will remain a peaceful city, no matter how long the conflict."
Abu Talha says that if Germany withdraws from Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda will no longer target it.
"If the Germans are inclined now towards peace, then the mujahideen will be inclined towards peace, as well. With the departure of the last German soldier from Afghanistan, the last mujahid in Germany will be withdrawn.
"It is time for Germany to know that Afghanistan is not the seventeenth province of Germany and that it is not the 'beer tent' where to hold the 'Oktoberfest' throughout the year," he added.
The authenticity of the nearly 26-minute video cannot be independently verified.
Abu Talha first appeared in a video entitled "Germany?s Rescue Plan" from Al-Qaeda?s media arm, As-Sahab, on January 17.
In that video, he also threatened reprisals if Germany did not withdraw from Afghanistan.
He said Germans were "gullible and naive" if they thought they "were going to get off without injury when they are the third (largest) occupying force in Afghanistan" after the Americans and the British.
He later dictated an audio message that was released on February 26 and was entitled "Islam and the Financial Crisis."
Conservative German Chancellor Angela Merkel appears to be on track for re-election, although an opinion poll published on Friday showed her lead to be shrinking.
I wonder.
:yawn:
I can connect the germans with some oven distributors.
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They should change governments, yes... good idea. :shifty:
So al-quaida obviously support Murkel...
Or am I giving the Germans too much credit?
Current projections for the September 27th elections:
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I'm pretty certain Germans will vote for what's economically expedient (from their POV), not what gets the fewest German soldiers killed.
Quote from: Jaron on September 18, 2009, 02:46:15 PM
They should change governments, yes... good idea. :shifty:
A final solution to the Al Qaeda problem?
HA! Fuck the greens. Goddamn hippies.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 02:49:55 PM
HA! Fuck the greens. Goddamn hippies.
"Linke" would be the far left, though. Mostly former East German SED.
Yes a real good idea to rile up a nation that started two world wars :thumbsup: that's clever thinking right there
Wow, I didn't know the Greens were so significant in Germany :blink:
Thats....weird.
But entirely not unwelcome.
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2009, 03:07:18 PM
Wow, I didn't know the Greens were so significant in Germany :blink:
Thats....weird.
But entirely not unwelcome.
IIRC the Greens have actually been in government as members of a coalition with the SPD in Germany.
Does any major party support withdrawal from Afghanistan?
Quote from: Iormlund on September 18, 2009, 03:40:47 PM
Does any major party support withdrawal from Afghanistan?
The Greens and Linke, IIRC
Quote from: Agelastus on September 18, 2009, 03:33:58 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2009, 03:07:18 PM
Wow, I didn't know the Greens were so significant in Germany :blink:
Thats....weird.
But entirely not unwelcome.
IIRC the Greens have actually been in government as members of a coalition with the SPD in Germany.
Yeah, I think Germany's former foreign minister, Joschka Fischer, was from the Greens.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on September 19, 2009, 02:22:08 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 18, 2009, 03:33:58 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2009, 03:07:18 PM
Wow, I didn't know the Greens were so significant in Germany :blink:
Thats....weird.
But entirely not unwelcome.
IIRC the Greens have actually been in government as members of a coalition with the SPD in Germany.
Yeah, I think Germany's former foreign minister, Joschka Fischer, was from the Greens.
:thumbsup:
The FPD don't normally do anywhere near that well do they?
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2009, 03:07:18 PM
Wow, I didn't know the Greens were so significant in Germany :blink:
Thats....weird.
But entirely not unwelcome.
Greens are fags who should be sent to the East.
I didn't think you were a Hansie, Viper... well, I was wrong (incidentally, I'm quite bad at that christian sport of forgetting and pardoning).
To say that when no German soldier has ever set a foot on Iraq, while both German and Spanish soldiers are in this very moment in Afghanistan (and Spanish ones in Lebanon, where in other news US marines still dare not enter) is worthy from the very best La-la Land posts from Hansie.
Really, you shouldn't help the enemy like that, attributing them successes they didn't reach and giving them ridiculous hopes. That's so treasonous it's almost democrat.
Quote from: Syt on September 19, 2009, 12:34:42 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on September 18, 2009, 03:40:47 PM
Does any major party support withdrawal from Afghanistan?
The Greens and Linke, IIRC
Well then the only way I can see it happening is one of those two are needed for a coalition and the main party throws withdrawal from Afghanistan as a bone (and pretty cheap one at that). I doubt an attack would encourage that outcome, though.
Quote from: Alatriste on September 19, 2009, 06:16:42 AM
(and Spanish ones in Lebanon,
You keep bragging about this, but it's not really that impressive. The Spanish troops in Lebanon have nothing to fear, because they're working with the Muslim extremists, against the Jews that both the Muslims and Spaniards hate.
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 19, 2009, 05:02:21 AM
The FPD don't normally do anywhere near that well do they?
As far as I know, they've consistently done that well for several elections. They tend to get ~11% of the vote or somesuch.
This could be the strongest result for the FDP ever. Same for the Greens and the Left party by the way. I guess that's what you get when the two biggest parties form a coalition government. The only problem is that no other coalition might be viable after the elections which would result in another coalition between SPD and CDU. :(
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@OP:
Quote from: Syt on September 18, 2009, 02:39:50 PM
:yawn:
This. Who gives a fuck about Al Qaida or Afghanistan.
Quote from: Syt on September 18, 2009, 02:53:51 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 02:49:55 PM
HA! Fuck the greens. Goddamn hippies.
"Linke" would be the far left, though. Mostly former East German SED.
Die Linke :bleeding: They are seen as a model for the French far left too. After all, they have their little Napoleon too (Oskar LAFONTAINE). :D