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Poll
Question: Politics aside, who do you think would have been most fun to have a drink with?
Option 1: Barack Obama
Option 2: George W. Bush
Option 3: Bill Clinton
Option 4: George H.W. Bush
Option 5: Ronald Reagan
Option 6: Jimmy Carter
Option 7: Gerald Ford
Option 8: Richard Nixon
Option 9: Lyndon B. Johnson
Option 10: John F. Kennedy
Option 11: Dwight D. Eisenhower
Title: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Syt on September 18, 2009, 01:34:01 PM
Leaving out the field of politics - which president was most likable in recent decades. Or put differently: who would you most enjoy sharing a few drinks at a bar with just chatting and talking bull? To limit the options, let's just look at the post-war presidents.

Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Sheilbh on September 18, 2009, 01:38:04 PM
Clinton, by a mile.  I think Obama, Reagan, Ike and Ford would also be pretty good company.  My concern with Ike would be that you have to like golf. 

Tee-totallers unnerve me, so Bush II is out.  I think Bush I's a bit too old-school patrician.  Johnson would scare me.  Carter, I am sure, would be unbearable company.  I think Nixon was very awkward with people and couldn't really do small talk.

I've no read on JFK :mellow:
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: DisturbedPervert on September 18, 2009, 01:39:28 PM
Ronald Reagan, without a doubt. 

Kennedy and Clinton would also be interesting.  Bush II would be fun at a frat party back in his day.

Least enjoyable would be Obama or Carter.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Razgovory on September 18, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on September 18, 2009, 01:39:28 PM
Ronald Reagan, without a doubt.

Would be kinda awkward if he just kept falling asleep and forgetting who you are.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on September 18, 2009, 01:40:53 PM
Nah, gotta be Clinton. He and Hil know how to party. You can tell.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Razgovory on September 18, 2009, 01:42:29 PM
I imagine GWB wouldn't be to bad to hang out with.  Clinton is so overbearing.  Carter strikes me as creepy.  George Bush sr. wouldn't be to bad.  Polite and formal.  I wonder what Nixon would be like in person.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Sheilbh on September 18, 2009, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on September 18, 2009, 01:39:28 PMBush II would be fun at a frat party back in his day.
This is true.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on September 18, 2009, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 18, 2009, 01:42:29 PM
I wonder what Nixon would be like in person.

He'd be foulmouthed and blunt. I imagine he'd be a hilarious drunk.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Syt on September 18, 2009, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 18, 2009, 01:42:29 PM
I wonder what Nixon would be like in person.

Listening to some of his tapes where he makes kinda private calls to subordinates and recently having read Dallek's book about the collaboration between him and Kissinger I'd think that going out for drinks with him would have been awkward to say the least.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Grey Fox on September 18, 2009, 01:47:09 PM
Bush II.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 18, 2009, 01:48:36 PM
It's impossible to not like Ike.  Always smiling, standing there looking so bald and dignified.

JFK would be the best to party with, get some sloppy seconds or throw backs.

Clinton would be good one on one but my guess lousy in a small group: too much of a performer.

W would probably be the best for a short time in an akward situation, like stuck in an elevator together.  Seems the easiest going, most naturally friendly.

Only one on the list who is distinctly unlikeable is Milhouse.  Even Carter would probably be very kindly and gracious in person, not at all a sanctimonious bore.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: The Minsky Moment on September 18, 2009, 01:51:03 PM
Ford or Bush I would be the most likable I think.

Ike and LBJ the most interesting - Ike b/c you could try to gossip about all the ww2 stuff; LBJ just because of his personality.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 02:00:08 PM
I'd like to hear poppa Bush talk about firing torpedoes at the Hiyo.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Neil on September 18, 2009, 02:17:30 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 18, 2009, 01:51:03 PM
Ike b/c you could try to gossip about all the ww2 stuff;
Like how he shirked his duty to bang his driver?

Nixon would be the best, by far.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: C.C.R. on September 18, 2009, 02:18:07 PM
Jerry.  The closest (IMO) to being a "regular guy" out of the group...
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Razgovory on September 18, 2009, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 18, 2009, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 18, 2009, 01:42:29 PM
I wonder what Nixon would be like in person.

He'd be foulmouthed and blunt. I imagine he'd be a hilarious drunk.

The man was drunk most of his second term and nobody found that particularly funny.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 02:19:30 PM
I think it'd be Ford.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: PDH on September 18, 2009, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on September 18, 2009, 02:18:07 PM
Jerry.  The closest (IMO) to being a "regular guy" out of the group...
Do you like...Nachos?

Seriously, I would have watched football with him.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 02:19:55 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on September 18, 2009, 02:18:07 PM
Jerry.  The closest (IMO) to being a "regular guy" out of the group...

Do you...like nachos?
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Savonarola on September 18, 2009, 02:20:12 PM
The man from Michigan, of course.   :)
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: C.C.R. on September 18, 2009, 02:22:14 PM
Quote from: PDH on September 18, 2009, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on September 18, 2009, 02:18:07 PM
Jerry.  The closest (IMO) to being a "regular guy" out of the group...
Do you like...Nachos?

Seriously, I would have watched football with him.

I thought about posting this the first time around...
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: derspiess on September 18, 2009, 02:26:36 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 18, 2009, 01:42:29 PM
I imagine GWB wouldn't be to bad to hang out with.  Clinton is so overbearing. 

See, I would think the opposite.  Bush-43 would be boring because he doesn't drink any more, is loyal to his wife, etc. but could you imagine hanging out with Bill Clinton?  Said it many times before, but as much as I disliked Clinton politically, I always thought he'd be a fun guy to play a round of golf with, go to a baseball game with, chase tail, etc.

Anywho, I voted Reagan before I saw Syt's first post.  In terms of actually hanging out & throwing back a few drinks with, I'd have to say either Clinton or Bush-41 (don't laugh-- he's one of the few Presidents I've seen actually drink a beer).

Obama likes beer & smokes, but I have a feeling he'd just be too superficial.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Valmy on September 18, 2009, 02:28:14 PM
Ford and Bush I

I guess I gotta go with Jerry.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: charliebear on September 18, 2009, 02:28:57 PM
Quote from: C.C.R. on September 18, 2009, 02:18:07 PM
Jerry.  The closest (IMO) to being a "regular guy" out of the group...

Ditto.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Malthus on September 18, 2009, 02:31:50 PM
Jerry.

It is always better for the ego to party with someone you know isn't smarter than you.  :P
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: charliebear on September 18, 2009, 02:41:07 PM
Quote

Gerald Ford: 
The Man No One Could Caricature

Gerald Ford. 38th President of the Unites States of America. Pardoner of Nixon. Cartoonist's nightmare.

Yes, as hard as it may be to believe, there was a time when the editorial cartoonists of America had a president so boring looking he was almost impossible to draw accurately. No one could seem to agree on what Gerry's most dominant feature was. His chin? His forehead? His upper lip?  As a result, the caricatures of the President varied greatly from artist to artist. 

As a tribute to these troubled cartoonists I have created a mini gallery of the many Fords that appeared on the editorial pages during the first shaky years of his Administration.

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/Ford.html (http://www.filibustercartoons.com/Ford.html)


Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Josquius on September 18, 2009, 02:49:12 PM
Clinton.
Even after the Louinski (spl) scandal he still came off pretty alright. Any other politician with such happening to them would be forever mired in sleaze.
With Clinton though its just 'Oh Bill! You lovable rogue you!'
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
The problem with Clinton is that, while I'm sure he's interesting and has a good sense of humor, he'd spend the whole meetup blabbing about himself and how amazing he is.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Syt on September 18, 2009, 02:50:23 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2009, 02:49:12 PMLouinski (spl)

Lewinsky
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
or "fat pig"
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Valmy on September 18, 2009, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
The problem with Clinton is that, while I'm sure he's interesting and has a good sense of humor, he'd spend the whole meetup blabbing about himself and how amazing he is.

Yeah the major strike against slick Willie is his tiresome narcissism.  I was so tired of his crap by the time he left office. 
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Syt on September 18, 2009, 02:52:28 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
The problem with Clinton is that, while I'm sure he's interesting and has a good sense of humor, he'd spend the whole meetup blabbing about himself and how amazing he is.

Makes you wonder why he isn't on Languish yet.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 02:54:32 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
or "fat pig"
I'd do her.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Jaron on September 18, 2009, 02:55:47 PM
For all his faults, W. had a really charming personality.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 02:56:52 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 02:54:32 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
or "fat pig"
I'd do her.

Pigfucker.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Syt on September 18, 2009, 02:59:29 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 02:50:51 PM
or "fat pig"

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.babble.com%2FCS%2Fblogs%2Fstrollerderby%2F2008%2F05%2F23-End%2520of%2520Month%2FMonica%2520Lewinsky.jpg&hash=b91f793d44a5809809e967654db11eee022a8ef5)
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Queequeg on September 18, 2009, 03:01:04 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
The problem with Clinton is that, while I'm sure he's interesting and has a good sense of humor, he'd spend the whole meetup blabbing about himself and how amazing he is.
IDK about that.  Some of the more personal stories I've read about him talk about him getting to know/connect pretty profoundly with random, mediocre people.  He strikes me as a pretty empathetic guy. 
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Malthus on September 18, 2009, 03:01:25 PM
Clinton had ... questionable taste in women.

He's supposed to be charismatic and charming, and he was goddam President. Presumably, he could have chosen the pick of bevies of willing women. So how does it happen that he chose such a sad collection of women to screw?  :(
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 03:02:06 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on September 18, 2009, 03:01:04 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
The problem with Clinton is that, while I'm sure he's interesting and has a good sense of humor, he'd spend the whole meetup blabbing about himself and how amazing he is.
IDK about that.  Some of the more personal stories I've read about him talk about him getting to know/connect pretty profoundly with random, mediocre people.  He strikes me as a pretty empathetic guy.

He'd brain you as soon as you started babbling about the Byzantine Theme system.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Berkut on September 18, 2009, 03:03:08 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 18, 2009, 03:01:25 PM
Clinton had ... questionable taste in women.

He's supposed to be charismatic and charming, and he was goddam President. Presumably, he could have chosen the pick of bevies of willing women. So how does it happen that he chose such a sad collection of women to screw?  :(

I don't expect it is really that easy to find hot women to bang when you aren't allowed to be seen to be looking.

Monica was a target of opportunity, I am sure. And really, her unattractiveness is over-rated anyway. She isn't that bad.

I voted for Bill, btw - I don't even think it is close.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Jaron on September 18, 2009, 03:04:35 PM
He likes women he can control.

Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Josquius on September 18, 2009, 03:04:44 PM
Yeah purely on looks she's pretty OK.
I dunno about her fatness but if she is...some people like that. Not me but some.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Syt on September 18, 2009, 03:04:50 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 18, 2009, 03:02:06 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on September 18, 2009, 03:01:04 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
The problem with Clinton is that, while I'm sure he's interesting and has a good sense of humor, he'd spend the whole meetup blabbing about himself and how amazing he is.
IDK about that.  Some of the more personal stories I've read about him talk about him getting to know/connect pretty profoundly with random, mediocre people.  He strikes me as a pretty empathetic guy.

He'd brain you as soon as you started babbling about the Byzantine Theme system.

But then anyone would. Though Nixon would ask Hunt to rough you up.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 18, 2009, 03:04:54 PM
Clinton might be smarter than me and that would be irritating. Voted Dubya.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: garbon on September 18, 2009, 03:05:27 PM
I'd like to vote Hillary Clinton but she didn't get to be President. <_<

I opted for Reagan.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: DisturbedPervert on September 18, 2009, 03:07:29 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 18, 2009, 03:01:25 PM
Clinton had ... questionable taste in women.

He's supposed to be charismatic and charming, and he was goddam President. Presumably, he could have chosen the pick of bevies of willing women. So how does it happen that he chose such a sad collection of women to screw?  :(

He's the perfect wingman.  He's funny, good looking, and charismatic, and he prefers the ugly ones?     :lol:
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Syt on September 18, 2009, 03:07:39 PM
Interestingly, no one would like to have a drink with Obama, Carter, GHW Bush, LBJ or Kennedy so far.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on September 18, 2009, 03:01:04 PM
IDK about that.  Some of the more personal stories I've read about him talk about him getting to know/connect pretty profoundly with random, mediocre people.  He strikes me as a pretty empathetic guy.
Yeah, I know there are anecdotes like that out there about him, but I'm not sure if he was just "on" for said encounters or what.  It's impossible to know what any POTUS is like unless you meet them yourself, I think, due to the cult of personality that gets built around 'em.... and even then maybe not possible since you're not a member of their family or intimate circle where they're more likely to drop the act.  So my choice of Ford is based on a mix of anecdotes I've heard and just a general feeling I get about him.

I have never met any Presidents myself but I have friends who've met Bush Jr. and said he was "super nice".
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Josquius on September 18, 2009, 03:11:41 PM
Quote from: Syt on September 18, 2009, 03:07:39 PM
Interestingly, no one would like to have a drink with Obama, Carter, GHW Bush, LBJ or Kennedy so far.
Kennedy and Obama are too smarmy.
We've seen their ilk revealed for what they are in Tony Blair.
Sickingly likable and so not actually likable.

Oh.
And..
err...
Languish is teh right wing they dont like teh left coz they are nazissssss
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Malthus on September 18, 2009, 03:12:32 PM
Quote from: Berkut on September 18, 2009, 03:03:08 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 18, 2009, 03:01:25 PM
Clinton had ... questionable taste in women.

He's supposed to be charismatic and charming, and he was goddam President. Presumably, he could have chosen the pick of bevies of willing women. So how does it happen that he chose such a sad collection of women to screw?  :(

I don't expect it is really that easy to find hot women to bang when you aren't allowed to be seen to be looking.

Monica was a target of opportunity, I am sure. And really, her unattractiveness is over-rated anyway. She isn't that bad.

I voted for Bill, btw - I don't even think it is close.

Yeah, but that didn't stop JFK. He had scads of ultra-hott women.  ;)

Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 03:13:38 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2009, 03:04:44 PM
Yeah purely on looks she's pretty OK.
I dunno about her fatness but if she is...some people like that. Not me but some.
She's not fat... she has huge boobs, or at least she did at the time (not sure what her figure is like now).  At the time of the Lewinsky scandal I was dating a girl who strongly resembled her, especially in figure, and she looked 'fat' while dressed because of the size of her boobs--but the rest of her body was not 'fat' at all.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Josquius on September 18, 2009, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 03:13:38 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2009, 03:04:44 PM
Yeah purely on looks she's pretty OK.
I dunno about her fatness but if she is...some people like that. Not me but some.
She's not fat... she has huge boobs, or at least she did at the time (not sure what her figure is like now).  At the time of the Lewinsky scandal I was dating a girl who strongly resembled her, especially in figure, and she looked 'fat' while dressed because of the size of her boobs--but the rest of her body was not 'fat' at all.
*shrug*
I haven't a clue.
I've never really studied that period of American history and I was too young to care at the time.
I can't help but think though that for her detractors this is internet standards at work. We're used to hot women in the media- so when a regular one pops up.....
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: garbon on September 18, 2009, 03:19:22 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2009, 03:11:41 PM
Oh.
And..
err...
Languish is teh right wing they dont like teh left coz they are nazissssss

:blink:
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Malthus on September 18, 2009, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2009, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 18, 2009, 03:13:38 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 18, 2009, 03:04:44 PM
Yeah purely on looks she's pretty OK.
I dunno about her fatness but if she is...some people like that. Not me but some.
She's not fat... she has huge boobs, or at least she did at the time (not sure what her figure is like now).  At the time of the Lewinsky scandal I was dating a girl who strongly resembled her, especially in figure, and she looked 'fat' while dressed because of the size of her boobs--but the rest of her body was not 'fat' at all.
*shrug*
I haven't a clue.
I've never really studied that period of American history and I was too young to care at the time.
I can't help but think though that for her detractors this is internet standards at work. We're used to hot women in the media- so when a regular one pops up.....

It's the JFK factor. He apparently had it off with scads of ultra-hott women, hott by any standards - allegedly including Marilyn Monroe.

Clinton had the likes of Paula Jones, Jennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky.   
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Agelastus on September 18, 2009, 03:29:27 PM
I have to admit I have just voted for Clinton.

Of all the recent American presidents, he strikes me as the one most likely to be good company in the pub, his politics aside.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Fireblade on September 18, 2009, 03:56:25 PM
Bill, of course. :wub:
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Neil on September 18, 2009, 04:14:17 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 18, 2009, 03:12:32 PM
Yeah, but that didn't stop JFK. He had scads of ultra-hott women.  ;)
That was back in the days when the media would ignore that sort of thing, up to a point.
Title: Re: Most likable recent U.S. President?
Post by: Viking on September 18, 2009, 04:21:44 PM
Nixon, while he is a true dick, he is still the most interesting character.