Poll
Question:
Which second-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Option 1: Bretagne-class (France)
votes: 2
Option 2: Bayern-class (Germany)
votes: 8
Option 3: Conte di Cavour-class (Italy)
votes: 2
Option 4: Nagato-class (Japan)
votes: 8
Option 5: Queen Elizabeth-class (UK)
votes: 6
Option 6: Tennessee-class (USA)
votes: 13
Bretagne:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cityofart.net%2Fbship%2Ffr_provence.jpg&hash=f7bef1419587d7300ac54b301cc23a0e1647da30)
Bayern:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.navweaps.com%2FWeapons%2FWNGER_15-45_skc13_Bayern_profile_pic.jpg&hash=92b87d60398580040c08fa3abbfd1e4e14be620a)
Conte di Cavour:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cityofart.net%2Fbship%2Frn_cesare_taranto.jpg&hash=82c2ac501dfd1cc65961c0147093e5e4df4e2bbf)
Nagato:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geocities.com%2Fjwarship%2Fmutsu.jpg&hash=1c7d4021726bcdb25e12b7c96994521e521fc447)
Queen Elizabeth:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oswild.org%2Fhobnob%2Ffamily%2Fjohn%2Fpics%2Fmalaya6.jpg&hash=9cdce46c3249d87ebce7afe3940ee2ee533ad78c)
Tennessee:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fb%2Fba%2FUSS_Tennessee_BB-43_underway.jpg&hash=d58576d908f4bae09b268b9202105be1f78f533e)
Tennessee. The Provence's conn tower is sexy, though- would have won if it had a little more meat on the aft side.
P.S. - The Nagato's ugly; it looks like somebody stuck a pagoda on top of a boat.
I may have to shoot myself for saying this, but the Bayern's a damned fine looking ship, better even than the Queen Elizabeth.
As cool and "modern" as the Tennessee looks, I think the Bayern is sleeker.
Bayern looks like it rides too low in the water, not very intimidating.
The Nagato is horrible.
The Conte di Cavour is too symmetrical.
The other three are close but I go with the Tennessee, she looks more modern to me from the pics here.
Quote from: sbr on September 17, 2009, 12:25:09 AM
Bayern looks like it rides too low in the water, not very intimidating.
The Nagato is horrible.
The Conte di Cavour is too symmetrical.
The other three are close but I go with the Tennessee, she looks more modern to me from the pics here.
Agreed. Clipper bows FTW, and midships turrets FTL!
2nd generation dreadnoughts don't have the sexy look of 4th generation dreadnoughts somehow. I find them all ugly.
Quote from: sbr on September 17, 2009, 12:25:09 AM
Bayern looks like it rides too low in the water, not very intimidating.
The Nagato is horrible.
The Conte di Cavour is too symmetrical.
The other three are close but I go with the Tennessee, she looks more modern to me from the pics here.
Tennessee was truly more modern... clipper bow, burned oil rather than coal, the only ship in the poll without secondary artillery in barbettes... This photo is from USS California, belonging to the same class
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F58%2FUSS_California_1921_H82114.jpg&hash=d4e849c97ea9202a2fc3aa1dd12c53f05dbeeaae)
Bayern is certainly sleek looking, but for me the better looking has to be either Tennessee or Queen Elisabeth, and I find something aesthetically very pleasing in Queen Elisabeth lines.
The Bayern looks like it's half sunk.
Another vote for Tennessee
Toss up between the two amateur teams, Italy and Japan...
Went with Japan- it has a freaking pagoda! :w00t:
Is that a clock on the front of the Tennessee?
Quote from: Pishtaco on September 17, 2009, 07:18:01 AM
Is that a clock on the front of the Tennessee?
It would seem so, but if it is really a clock every photo in this page was taken at noon
http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/us_navy_pages/uss_tennessee_bb43.htm
In other words, I don't think it is a clock, but I would like to know what it is.
The 'clock' is part of the US fire control system of the time, used to communicate the enemy's range to other ships in the formation.
Quote from: Pishtaco on September 17, 2009, 07:18:01 AM
Is that a clock on the front of the Tennessee?
Yes, of sorts - it was called a "range clock" and, as Neil notes, was part of the gunnery practices of the time. Ships in a division would be assigned different colored dyes for their shells, and if, say, the
Colorado's yellow-dyed salvos were straddling and the
Tennessee's red ones were not,
Tennessee would look at
Colorado's range clock to see what range
Colorado was using.
Nagato. The pagoda rocks my boat.
Isn't this more representative of Nagato as a second generation battle ship? Before her modernizations.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nps.gov%2Fhistory%2Fhistory%2Fonline_books%2Fswcrc%2F37%2Fimages%2Ffig3-11.jpg&hash=0cd74c9c67ea1627e4cf93896aea7cf78a3ec02c)
Quote from: Threviel on September 17, 2009, 11:41:42 PM
Isn't this more representative of Nagato as a second generation battle ship? Before her modernizations.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nps.gov%2Fhistory%2Fhistory%2Fonline_books%2Fswcrc%2F37%2Fimages%2Ffig3-11.jpg&hash=0cd74c9c67ea1627e4cf93896aea7cf78a3ec02c)
I spent half an hour looking for a photo like yours, but couldn't find one. All showed Nagato after being modified. Originally it was quite elegant, I would say.
You should have tried google, it's quite effective :P
I couldn't find one either, until I googled "Nagato 1920", her commissioning year.
New Nagato looks like she's sporting a ginormous Dagwood Bumstead sandwich.
I can't vote in this one since the USS Wyoming wasn't listed.
Most forums who's hotter? threads do not involve dreadnaughts. Languish is clearly in a class on its own.