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Poll
Question: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Option 1: Dunkerque-class (France) votes: 7
Option 2: Scharnhorst-class (Germany) votes: 19
Option 3: Rodney-class (UK) votes: 2
Option 4: North Carolina-class (USA) votes: 14
Title: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Neil on September 15, 2009, 07:03:15 PM
Dunkerque:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.military.cz%2Fww2_ships%2FFrance%2FBB%2FDunkerque%2Fdunkerque01.jpg&hash=8c476a6f62725ac2f24606827cf7af7eb2cf4233)

Scharnhorst:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.history.navy.mil%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fi01000%2Fi01559.jpg&hash=13282f45f96c7050252565b6ca05ad3d478696ab)

Rodney:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuboat.net%2Fallies%2Fwarships%2Fphotos%2Fbr%2Fbb_hms_rodney.jpg&hash=ae55d7fe2facca112858d71cc6e3c9da5272b02f)

North Carolina:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chinfo.navy.mil%2Fnavpalib%2Fships%2Fbattleships%2Fncarolina%2Fncar1942.jpg&hash=a7c003ee450862895c61b271d2cefb6c284a7941)
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Agelastus on September 15, 2009, 07:30:11 PM
Putting North Carolina against Nelson seems somewhat arbitrary, given she is a contemporary of KGV.

Voted North Carolina on this poll; Nelson is just too ugly to be adequately described in words. Dunkerque has the same aesthetic flaws as Richelieu, and Scharnhorst looks top heavy.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Neil on September 15, 2009, 08:50:52 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 15, 2009, 07:30:11 PM
Putting North Carolina against Nelson seems somewhat arbitrary, given she is a contemporary of KGV.
I could have used either, really.  However, Rodney was the quintessential treaty battleship, and so deserved to be the British entry.

I've always defined the generations as:
1 - Early dreadnoughts - anything with a wing turret
2 - Superdreadnoughts - all-centerline main battery designed prior to or during WWI.
3 - Treaty dreadnoughts - built to the specifications of the Washington and London treaties.
4 - Post-treaty dreadnoughts - anything built after the end of the treaty or when people started cheating.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 15, 2009, 08:51:44 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 15, 2009, 07:30:11 PM
and Scharnhorst looks top heavy.

That's what makes it so very German.  Hell, their ships now are superstructure heavy.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Habbaku on September 15, 2009, 09:53:31 PM
I voted for the Krauts again.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: barkdreg on September 15, 2009, 10:06:15 PM
Germans. Altough the French are a strong contender.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Ideologue on September 15, 2009, 11:16:16 PM
Scharnhorst is pretty.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: sbr on September 15, 2009, 11:36:10 PM
The picture of the North Carolina is much cooler than the others, almost makes it unfair.

The Scharnhorst has too much crap piled on top of it.

The Rodney is too minimalist.

Looking at other comparable pics of each of the last two I have to go with the Dunkerque.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Alatriste on September 16, 2009, 01:29:50 AM
Close call between Scharnhost and Dunkerque (far, far prettier than Richelieu, but that photo hides the not-so-attractive stern). Voted Scharnhost.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Syt on September 16, 2009, 01:31:42 AM
Been aboard the North Carolina, but I think Scharnhorst looks better.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: BVN on September 16, 2009, 03:03:23 AM
Pure aesthetics? Then I vote Scharnhorst.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Threviel on September 16, 2009, 08:12:56 AM
Other: Vittorio Veneto
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Agelastus on September 16, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
Quote from: Threviel on September 16, 2009, 08:12:56 AM
Other: Vittorio Veneto

See "fourth generation" poll for Littorio/Vittorio Veneto.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: DontSayBanana on September 16, 2009, 08:41:06 AM
Dunkerque.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Threviel on September 16, 2009, 09:03:34 AM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 16, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
Quote from: Threviel on September 16, 2009, 08:12:56 AM
Other: Vittorio Veneto

See "fourth generation" poll for Littorio/Vittorio Veneto.

Well, Scharnhorst then...
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Josquius on September 16, 2009, 10:20:47 AM
Toss up between Dunkirk and Rodney. Went with the Brits.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: grumbler on September 16, 2009, 12:08:04 PM
Never liked the trailing superstructure of the Scharnhorst class (looks like something is missing aft of the funnel), so she is out.  Dunkerque has a great hull line, but the stack is too far aft so it looks like something is missing forward of the stack.  Rodney isn't ugly enough to be attractive-ugly like the Big Five.  North Carolina has great balance and the second-best hull line, so takes the prize.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: The Brain on September 16, 2009, 01:06:40 PM
Scharnhorst all the way. The others look like someone was sick on the ocean.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 16, 2009, 05:11:00 PM
Rodney is one fugly tub.  Vote Scharnhorst.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2009, 05:16:17 PM
The Scharnhorst looks badass.

Voted Iowa for the 4th generation poll.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Ed Anger on September 16, 2009, 05:42:58 PM
I picked the North Carolina because I built a model of the ship when I was a wee lad. Then set it on fire.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2009, 05:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 16, 2009, 05:42:58 PM
I picked the North Carolina because I built a model of the ship when I was a wee lad. Then set it on fire.
Jap sympathizer!  :mad:
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Ed Anger on September 16, 2009, 05:50:41 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2009, 05:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 16, 2009, 05:42:58 PM
I picked the North Carolina because I built a model of the ship when I was a wee lad. Then set it on fire.
Jap sympathizer!  :mad:

Atomic testing of surplus ships and surplus glue.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: PDH on September 16, 2009, 06:33:32 PM
I blew up the Iowa and the North Carolina.  I also melted the Arizona.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 16, 2009, 07:03:14 PM
Quote from: PDH on September 16, 2009, 06:33:32 PM
I blew up the Iowa and the North Carolina.  I also melted the Arizona.

I beached my Big Wheel trying to get to the street, or else the driveway would've been blocked for months.
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2009, 07:52:14 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 16, 2009, 05:49:18 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 16, 2009, 05:42:58 PM
I picked the North Carolina because I built a model of the ship when I was a wee lad. Then set it on fire.
Jap sympathizer!  :mad:
No one called me out on the irony of me making this statement? I'm disappointed in Languish. :(
Title: Re: Which third-generation dreadnought do you think looks best?
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 16, 2009, 08:53:36 PM
I hereby call you out, Little Timmy Olsen, on the irony of making that statement.

Consider yourself CALLED!! Outwardly!