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Title: New species discovered!
Post by: KRonn on September 08, 2009, 01:50:16 PM
Of course, I imagine that the rats seeing humans for the first time, also think they've discovered a new species as well.    ;)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6824443.ece

New species of giant woolly rat discovered by BBC film crew

A BBC film crew recording a programme in an extinct volcano in Papua New Guinea has discovered a new species of giant woolly rat, a frog with fangs, and around 40 other exotic creatures unknown to science.

Dr George McGavin and his team of biologists were stunned to spot a new species of frog within a minute of setting foot from their helicopter on the rim of the crater of Mount Bosavi.

"It was mind-blowing," said Dr McGavin, the head scientist of the BBC Natural History unit. "Allen Allison, a specialist in amphibians, said, 'I think that's one there over by your foot'. I nearly trod on it."

The woolly rat, which measures nearly 3ft (82cm) in length and weighs more than 3lb (1.5kg), was captured on film in an infrared camera trap set up on the densely wooded slopes.

Provisionally named the Bosavi woolly rat, it is thought to live only in the crater and nowhere else in the world. It has no fear of humans.

"I had a cat and it was about the same size as this rat," said Gordon Buchanan, the cameraman who first observed the creature.

Dr McGavin said the vegetarian rat was incredibly tame: "It just sat next to me nibbling on a piece of leaf. It won't have seen a human before. The crater of Bosavi really is the lost world."

The animal has a silver-brown coat of long, thick fur that probably helps it to survive the wet, cold winters inside the 1,000m high crater walls.

It is thought to belong to the rodent genus Mallomys, which contains other out-sized rat species including another giant woolly rat found in the Foja Mountains of Papua New Guinea by an expedition led by Conservation International in 2007.

Although the Bosavi rat is about five times the size of a brown rat of the genus Rattus that is familiar in Britain, it is dwarfed by other giant rodents elsewhere in the world, such as the South American capybara, which can reach 65kg.

Steve Greenwood, series producer for Lost Land of the Volcano, said that the team clambered down into the crater from the volcano's 2,800m summit in January with the help of local trackers, and spent two weeks filming.

They suspect that they may have catalogued for the first time up to 40 new species, including 16 species of frog, at least three new species of fish, 20 species of insect and spider and one new species of bat.

They saw stick insects the length of a man's forearm, an extremely hairy caterpillar that Dr McGavin hopes to name after Dennis Healey's eyebrows, and butterfies the size of a paperback book.

"Highlights include a camouflaged gecko, a fanged frog and a fish called the Henamo Grunter, so named because it makes grunting noises from its swim bladder," Mr Greenwood said.

Steve Backshall, a climber and naturalist, described how a Bosavi silky cuscus, a fruit-eating marsupial, climbed onto his shoulder.

"I can't begin to describe how it feels to have an animal in my hands that in all probability has never before been seen by science," he said.

"Most biologists would consider it a great achievement to name one new species but at some points on this trip it seemed like everything we were looking at was new. The end of every day was like a massive party. It was very special."

Lost Land of the Volcano goes out on BBC One starting tomorrow night at 9pm. The episode featuring the giant rat will be screened in two weeks' time
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Liep on September 08, 2009, 01:55:35 PM
Read about this the other day, amazing to think that we still have much to discover.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Kleves on September 08, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
Quote from: Liep on September 08, 2009, 01:55:35 PM
Read about this the other day, amazing to think that we still have much to discover.
To discover, and then to inadvertently exterminate.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: HVC on September 08, 2009, 01:58:45 PM
i want to see the vampire frog.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Josephus on September 08, 2009, 01:59:07 PM
Are they extinct yet?
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Valmy on September 08, 2009, 02:00:28 PM
Quote from: Kleves on September 08, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
To discover, and then to inadvertently exterminate.

The only species that will survive are the ones we raise for food...and then PETA will make us all vegetarians and we will exterminate them to.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Sheilbh on September 08, 2009, 02:01:58 PM
The BBC Natural History unit is worth the license fee.  I love these shows :wub:
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: HVC on September 08, 2009, 02:03:57 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 08, 2009, 02:00:28 PM
Quote from: Kleves on September 08, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
To discover, and then to inadvertently exterminate.

The only species that will survive are the ones we raise for food...and then PETA will make us all vegetarians and we will exterminate them to.
nah, we'll keep the cute ones alive too. unless they have the unfortunate habit of living where we like to live, in which case we'll pave over them in our pursuit of more strip malls.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 01:58:45 PM
i want to see the vampire frog.
Dude, did you know that there are vampire moths?  I just found that out myself a few months back.  :menace:
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 08, 2009, 02:07:03 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 08, 2009, 01:59:07 PM
Are they extinct yet?
Give the Republicans time to work their way there.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Ed Anger on September 08, 2009, 02:12:18 PM
More varmits to kill.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: DisturbedPervert on September 08, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 01:58:45 PM
i want to see the vampire frog.

Yeah that's bullshit mentioning a fanged frog and not showing a picture of it.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Savonarola on September 08, 2009, 02:17:10 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on September 08, 2009, 02:13:14 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 01:58:45 PM
i want to see the vampire frog.

Yeah that's bullshit mentioning a fanged frog and not showing a picture of it.

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm2.static.flickr.com%2F1148%2F561060487_96dbf71fce.jpg%3Fv%3D0&hash=a2c4f082fd4e19a150f0352a3256411fddcb7d87)
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: HVC on September 08, 2009, 02:17:55 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 01:58:45 PM
i want to see the vampire frog.
Dude, did you know that there are vampire moths?  I just found that out myself a few months back.  :menace:
actual blood suckers, or moths with fang like apendages?
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: KRonn on September 08, 2009, 02:56:16 PM
Sav, good one!   :D

I guess the jungles and mountains in New Guinea are so thick, dense and remote that it's not too much a surprise that new species are discovered there.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 02:57:00 PM
I can't wait till they find the Sleestaks hidden deep in the jungles.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 02:17:55 PM
actual blood suckers, or moths with fang like apendages?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calyptra_(genus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calyptra_(genus))
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: HVC on September 08, 2009, 02:59:36 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 02:17:55 PM
actual blood suckers, or moths with fang like apendages?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calyptra_(genus) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calyptra_(genus))
cool.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: The Minsky Moment on September 08, 2009, 03:00:39 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 08, 2009, 02:07:03 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 08, 2009, 01:59:07 PM
Are they extinct yet?
Give the Republicans time to work their way there.

Nonsense, the Congress is full of new species of giant rats.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: HVC on September 08, 2009, 03:02:52 PM
The moth even looks evil

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fneatorama.cachefly.net%2Fimages%2F2007-10%2Fvampire-moth.jpg&hash=b4c923afa384da101293618db98a3e8b0172b49f)
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: KRonn on September 08, 2009, 03:04:37 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 08, 2009, 03:00:39 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 08, 2009, 02:07:03 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 08, 2009, 01:59:07 PM
Are they extinct yet?
Give the Republicans time to work their way there.

Nonsense, the Congress is full of new species of giant rats.
And Blood Suckers too! 
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 03:04:49 PM
LOL it's a: stirge! :o
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 08, 2009, 03:08:42 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 03:04:49 PM
LOL it's a: stirge! :o
Not worth much by way of XP as I recall. :(
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: HVC on September 08, 2009, 03:11:59 PM
Beware who you mock. the Vampire moths will find you. it might take a while for them to drain you, since they're tiny and rely on your own blood pressure, but they're persistant.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: The Brain on September 08, 2009, 03:13:13 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 03:11:59 PM
Beware who you mock. the Vampire moths will find you. it might take a while for them to drain you, since they're tiny and rely on your own blood pressure, but they're persistant.

If Cal's pic is anything to go by blood pressure is no problem.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 03:13:30 PM
We have these kickass giant moths around here called Luna Moths.  One landed on the door out to my deck last spring and kinda sat there all night with its wings open.  The wingspan had to have been more than a foot in total. :blink:
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 08, 2009, 03:13:13 PM
If Cal's pic is anything to go by blood pressure is no problem.
My blood pressure is always within a few points of 120/80. ^_^
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: The Brain on September 08, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 08, 2009, 03:13:13 PM
If Cal's pic is anything to go by blood pressure is no problem.
My blood pressure is always within a few points of 120/80. ^_^

:(
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: lustindarkness on September 08, 2009, 03:18:49 PM
Bah! Let me know when they find proof of El Chupacabras.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on September 08, 2009, 03:18:49 PM
Bah! Let me know when they find proof of El Chupacabras.
Done, and done.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/09/03/animal.mystery.chupacabra/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/09/03/animal.mystery.chupacabra/index.html)
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: lustindarkness on September 08, 2009, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: lustindarkness on September 08, 2009, 03:18:49 PM
Bah! Let me know when they find proof of El Chupacabras.
Done, and done.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/09/03/animal.mystery.chupacabra/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/09/03/animal.mystery.chupacabra/index.html)
That's not my beloved chupacabras!  :mad:

btw, that was what brought it back to mind ;)
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 03:24:32 PM
I bet chupacabra fajitas and/or tamales would be good.  :cool:
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: HVC on September 08, 2009, 03:30:31 PM
If you want to find a goat sucker go to new zealand.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 08, 2009, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 03:11:59 PM
Beware who you mock. the Vampire moths will find you. it might take a while for them to drain you, since they're tiny and rely on your own blood pressure, but they're persistant.
I think mosquito can kill people or even large animals in relatively short order.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Jaron on September 08, 2009, 04:01:21 PM
I bet the Chinese already have ten recipies for this thing.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: The Brain on September 08, 2009, 04:01:52 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 03:30:31 PM
If you want to find a goat sucker go to new zealand.

:huh:
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: HVC on September 08, 2009, 04:12:00 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 08, 2009, 04:01:52 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 03:30:31 PM
If you want to find a goat sucker go to new zealand.

:huh:
or sweden, happy? :D
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Martinus on September 09, 2009, 01:53:11 AM
Quote from: Jaron on September 08, 2009, 04:01:21 PM
I bet the Chinese already have ten recipies for this thing.
:lol:
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Martinus on September 09, 2009, 03:17:15 AM
Quote from: HVC on September 08, 2009, 03:02:52 PM
The moth even looks evil

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fneatorama.cachefly.net%2Fimages%2F2007-10%2Fvampire-moth.jpg&hash=b4c923afa384da101293618db98a3e8b0172b49f)

Omg, it's the Great Cthulu. :cthulu:
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Caliga on September 09, 2009, 05:19:56 AM
If that's Great Cthulhu then whose thumb is that.... God's?  :D
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Razgovory on September 09, 2009, 05:37:08 AM
Quote from: KRonn on September 08, 2009, 01:50:16 PM
Of course, I imagine that the rats seeing humans for the first time, also think they've discovered a new species as well.    ;)


What the Papuans aren't real people?  Jared Diamond thinks they are smarter then you.
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: Caliga on September 09, 2009, 06:50:47 AM
 :huh:
Title: Re: New species discovered!
Post by: swallow on September 09, 2009, 07:27:27 AM
There's a logging company working only c. 20 miles away  :(