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Title: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Syt on September 05, 2009, 09:21:30 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1307468/

Alright, this has me in attention. I love the book. I loved the Marvano comics. Ridley Scott can do good movies if he wants. The only thing that irks me is that it'll be in 3D.

http://boingboing.net/2008/10/13/ridley-scott-to-adap.html
QuoteRidley Scott to adapt Haldeman's Forever War

Ridley Scott has acquired the film-rights to Joe Haldeman's magnificent, Hugo-award-winning classic science fiction novel, The Forever War. This is one of the great anti-war novels of all time. As I wrote about it in 2003, "I picked up a copy of Joe Haldeman's classic novel The Forever War last night as a gift for a friend, but I'm going to keep it. I got to re-reading it last night (for the first time in nearly 20 years) and couldn't put it down. Haldeman wrote this novel after returning from his tour of duty in Vietnam, and the book made the rounds, getting turned down by publisher after publisher, by editors who recognized the book's merit but questioned the political savvy of publishing a war-novel. Eventually, Joe rewrote one section of the book, softening it, and finally, the book saw print, becoming an instant classic. The new, author's preferred edition restores the original text, and is absolutely timely and engrossing."

    Fox 2000 has acquired rights to Joe Haldeman's 1974 novel "The Forever War," and Ridley Scott is planning to make it into his first science fiction film since he delivered back-to-back classics with "Blade Runner" and "Alien."

    Scott intended to follow those films with "The Forever War," but rights complications delayed his plans for more than two decades.

    The film will be produced by Scott Free. Vince Gerardis and Ralph Vicinanza will exec produce. Their company, Created By, reps Haldeman and spent the last decade trying to get back the rights.

    "I first pursued 'Forever War' 25 years ago, and the book has only grown more timely and relevant since," Scott told Daily Variety. "It's a science-fiction epic, a bit of 'The Odyssey' by way of 'Blade Runner,' built upon a brilliant, disorienting premise."

http://sffmedia.com/films/science-fiction-films/339-ridley-scotts-forever-war-to-be-3d-author-joe-haldeman-enthusiastic.html
QuoteRidley Scott's Forever War to be 3D: author Joe Haldeman enthusiastic
Sunday, 19 April 2009 John Howell

forever2We reported earlier that Ridley Scott's next science fiction movie, his first since Blade Runner, will be an adaptation of Joe Haldeman's The Forever War, an action packed novel about the impact of the time dilation effect on soldiers returning from an interstellar war against the mysterious Tauran species.

It appears that The Forever War will also be in 3D, with Scott being inspired by the camera technology James Cameron has developed for his yet to be released science fiction epic Avatar.

"I'm filming a book by Joe Haldeman called Forever War," Ridley Scott recently told a London Convention celebrating Blade Runner Day. "I've got a good writer doing it. I've seen some of James Cameron's work, and I've got to go 3D. It's going to be phenomenal."

The author of The Forever War, Joe Haldeman, recently told SFX magazine that he knew Scott was interested in the book over 20 years ago when the rights were first sold. He became aware of Scott's renewed interest in November 2007.

"They said Ridley was interested in it," he told SFX. "His assistant told me that Ridley Scott wanted to make a movie that was even more exciting than Blade Runner and Alien. That he wanted to do the ultimate science fiction movie. If it's bigger than Alien and Blade Runner I'm honoured to be a part, of course".

Apparently there have been several screenplay drafts written over the years.

"There are versions of The Forever War floating around. I even wrote one. But they want to work with someone who's a proven producer of screenplays. I don't blame them. I've written movies and television stuff, but I'm not known for it."

"When Scott picked up the rights a few months ago, he said 'the book is more relevant now than it ever was.' Because it seems to fit the war in Iraq as well as it did the war in Vietnam. That's kind of creepy. We don't learn do we?"

Scott will start filming The Forever War after he finishes his Robin Hood remake, Nottingham, and The Kind One.

The Forever War, Cameron's Avatar, and Scott's other upcoming science fiction project, Brave New World, will make the next couple of years a fantastic time to be a science fiction movie enthusiast. Imagine what Alien or Blade Runner would have been like if Ridley Scott had had 3D technology to play with at the time?
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: grumbler on September 05, 2009, 09:52:49 AM
I wonder if this is JMS's "mystery project" that he has referred to a couple of times in the last few months.

In any case, good news (except maybe about the 3D bit).  This book has been languishing too long.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Iormlund on September 05, 2009, 10:04:03 AM
There's nothing wrong with 3D per se. The problem is usually it is used instead of an actual screenplay, instead of enhancing it.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Syt on September 05, 2009, 10:11:02 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on September 05, 2009, 10:04:03 AM
There's nothing wrong with 3D per se. The problem is usually it is used instead of an actual screenplay, instead of enhancing it.

Well, the rapid development of CGI graphics has lead to a flood of moives that put the new visual possibilities into the center and in many cases at the cost of the plot. Therefore I'm always a bit wear about the announcement of effects heavy movies.

This spoof of the "2012" trailer sums it up best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Winkelried on September 05, 2009, 10:46:34 AM
"Black President?!? That's just ridiculous."  :lol:
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 05, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
I'm not sure this the book to make into a movie.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: The Brain on September 05, 2009, 11:18:04 AM
They should make the Quran. Quran the Barbarian and Quran the Destroyer.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Josquius on September 05, 2009, 11:22:34 AM
Whats with 3D suddenly coming back recently anyway?
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 05, 2009, 11:42:23 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 05, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
I'm not sure this the book to make into a movie.
The shower scene should work pretty well.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Sheilbh on September 05, 2009, 11:51:29 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 05, 2009, 11:22:34 AM
Whats with 3D suddenly coming back recently anyway?
Lots of people are getting excited by James Cameron's 'Avatar'.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 05, 2009, 12:05:19 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 05, 2009, 11:42:23 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 05, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
I'm not sure this the book to make into a movie.
The shower scene should work pretty well.
Not if they go for a PG-13 rating.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Grey Fox on September 05, 2009, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 05, 2009, 11:22:34 AM
Whats with 3D suddenly coming back recently anyway?

It got cheaper to do. Lots of theatres have 1 or 2 projector that supports it. It's becoming the only difference between home viewing & going to the Cinema.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 05, 2009, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 05, 2009, 12:05:43 PM
It got cheaper to do. Lots of theatres have 1 or 2 projector that supports it. It's becoming the only difference between home viewing & going to the Cinema.

Nah, those tvs that cover a whole wall ain't exactly cheap.

On the plus side, you don't have to have the volume cranked all the way up when you watch at home.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Ed Anger on September 05, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 05, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
I'm not sure this the book to make into a movie.

Too much gay in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Hansmeister on September 05, 2009, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 05, 2009, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 05, 2009, 11:22:34 AM
Whats with 3D suddenly coming back recently anyway?

It got cheaper to do. Lots of theatres have 1 or 2 projector that supports it. It's becoming the only difference between home viewing & going to the Cinema.

And they perfected the technology so it doesn't bring on headaches with prolonged viewing.  Within 2 years virtually all movie releases will be in 3D.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Faeelin on September 05, 2009, 03:14:40 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 05, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 05, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
I'm not sure this the book to make into a movie.

Too much gay in the 2nd half.

I'm actually not sure how they're going to deal with all of that. Cutting it out removes a major part of the character's alienation, but....
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Razgovory on September 05, 2009, 03:36:14 PM
I wonder if it's still going to have a Vietnam vet and take place in the mid 1990's.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Razgovory on September 05, 2009, 04:40:28 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 05, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 05, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
I'm not sure this the book to make into a movie.

Too much gay in the 2nd half.

I thought it was an interesting nightmare scenario.  What if in the future everyone is gay.  And you are trapped there!  It'd be like an episode of the Twilight Zone.  In the end the guy wakes up and fucks the shit out of his wife.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: PDH on September 05, 2009, 05:19:27 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 05, 2009, 04:40:28 PM
I thought it was an interesting nightmare scenario.  What if in the future everyone is gay.  And you are trapped there!  It'd be like an episode of the Twilight Zone.  In the end the guy wakes up and fucks the shit out of his wife.
Great, you just gave away the ending of the movie...
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Queequeg on September 05, 2009, 07:08:13 PM
Quote from: Hansmeister on September 05, 2009, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 05, 2009, 12:05:43 PM
Quote from: Tyr on September 05, 2009, 11:22:34 AM
Whats with 3D suddenly coming back recently anyway?

It got cheaper to do. Lots of theatres have 1 or 2 projector that supports it. It's becoming the only difference between home viewing & going to the Cinema.

And they perfected the technology so it doesn't bring on headaches with prolonged viewing.  Within 2 years virtually all movie releases will be in 3D.
With the advent of Blu-Ray and HD televisions they have to find some killer app for films, also the reason why CinemaScope developed.

Not that I'm complaining, Coraline in 3D was fucking fantastic. 
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Neil on September 05, 2009, 07:55:20 PM
Has there actually been a 3d movie that was good?  Ever?

When the crowning cinematic achievement of the technology is Captain Eo, you know they suck ass.
Title: Re: Forever War: A 3D Movie by Ridley Scott (2011)
Post by: Ideologue on September 05, 2009, 10:36:45 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 05, 2009, 07:55:20 PM
Has there actually been a 3d movie that was good?  Ever?

When the crowning cinematic achievement of the technology is Captain Eo, you know they suck ass.
:lol: