Wow, now that's some small town craziness!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32680338/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
QuoteCop shoots fire chief in Ark. court over tickets
Residents fed up with speed traps in tiny town that has seven officers
updated 6:09 p.m. ET, Thurs., Sept . 3, 2009
JERICHO, Ark. - It was just too much, having to return to court twice on the same day to contest yet another traffic ticket, and Fire Chief Don Payne didn't hesitate to tell the judge what he thought of the police and their speed traps.
The response from cops? They shot him. Right there in court.
Payne ended up in the hospital, but his shooting last week brought to a boil simmering tensions between residents of this tiny former cotton city and their police force. Drivers quickly learn to slow to a crawl along the gravel roads and the two-lane highway that run through Jericho, but they say sometimes that isn't enough to fend off the city ticketing machine.
"You can't even get them to answer a call because normally they're writing tickets," said Thomas Martin, chief investigator for the Crittenden County Sheriff's Office. "They're not providing a service to the citizens."
Now the police chief has disbanded his force "until things calm down," a judge has voided all outstanding police-issued citations and sheriff's deputies are asking where all the money from the tickets went. With 174 residents, the city can keep seven police officers on its rolls but missed payments on police and fire department vehicles and saw its last business close its doors a few weeks ago.
"You can't even buy a loaf of bread, but we've got seven police officers," said former resident Larry Harris, who left town because he said the police harassment became unbearable.
Camping out along highway
Sheriff's deputies patrolled Jericho until the 1990s, when the city received grant money to start its own police force, Martin said.
Police often camped out in the department's two cruisers along the highway that runs through town, waiting for drivers who failed to slow down when they reached the 45 mph zone ringing Jericho. Residents say the ticketing got out of hand.
"When I first moved out here, they wrote me a ticket for going 58 mph in my driveway," 75-year-old retiree Albert Beebe said.
The frequent ticketing apparently led to the vandalization of the cruisers, and the department took to parking the cars overnight at the sheriff's office eight miles away.
It was anger over traffic tickets that brought Payne to city hall last week, said his lawyer, Randy Fishman. After failing to get a traffic ticket dismissed on Aug. 27, police gave Payne or his son another ticket that day. Payne, 39, returned to court to vent his anger to Judge Tonya Alexander, Fishman said.
It's unclear exactly what happened next, but Martin said an argument between Payne and the seven police officers who attended the hearing apparently escalated to a scuffle, ending when an officer shot Payne from behind.
Bullet also hit another officer
Doctors in Memphis, Tenn., removed a .40-caliber bullet from Payne's hip bone, Martin said. Another officer suffered a grazing wound to his finger from the bullet.
Martin declined to name the officer who shot Payne, pending the outcome of an investigation. No charges have been filed, and it's unclear if the officer has been disciplined.
Crittenden County prosecutors did not respond to a phone message seeking comment.
Payne remains in good condition at the Regional Medical Center at Memphis. Payne referred questions to his lawyer.
"I know that he was unarmed and I know he was shot," Fishman said. "None of that sounds too good for the city to me."
After the shooting, Martin said police chief Willie Frazier told the sheriff's department he was disbanding the police force "until things calm down." The sheriff's department has been patrolling the town in the meantime.
A call to a city hall number listed as Frazier's went to a fax machine. Frazier did not respond to a written request for comment sent to his office.
Alexander, the judge, has voided all the tickets written by the department both inside the city and others written outside of its jurisdiction — citations that the department apparently had no power to write. Alexander, who works as a lawyer in West Memphis, did not return calls for comment.
Meanwhile, sheriff's deputies want to know where the money from the traffic fines went.
Martin said that it appeared the $150 tickets weren't enough to protect the city's finances. Sheriff's deputies once had to repossess one of the town's police cruisers for failure to pay on a lease, and the state Forestry Commission recently repossessed one of the city's fire trucks because of nonpayment.
City hall has been shuttered since the shooting, and any records of how the money was spent are apparently locked inside. No one answered when a reporter knocked on the door on Tuesday.
Mayor Helen Adams declined to speak about the shooting when approached outside her home, saying she had just returned from a doctor's appointment and couldn't talk.
"We'll get with you after all this comes through," Adams said Tuesday before shutting the door.
A white Ford Crown Victoria sat in her driveway with "public property" license plates. A sales brochure advertising police equipment sat in the back seat of the car.
Copyright 2009 The Associated Press.
Is that the Jericho town from the TV show?
Quote from: Siege on September 04, 2009, 12:11:48 AM
Is that the Jericho town from the TV show?
Nah, that Jericho was in Kansas, I think.
Quote from: Tonitrus on September 04, 2009, 12:12:55 AM
Quote from: Siege on September 04, 2009, 12:11:48 AM
Is that the Jericho town from the TV show?
Nah, that Jericho was in Kansas, I think.
So you see, I am not a bronze age barbarian.
I do know what that Jericho show is. Though I confess I only saw the first season.
But then, I know what seasons are...
Towns should not be allowed to set speed limits within their boundaries. That's why you've got all kinds of nonsense like this.... this is a common phenomenon in rural America. Anyway, setting speed limits should be a state level function.
QuoteNo charges have been filed, and it's unclear if the officer has been disciplined.
Err ... :huh:
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 05:39:29 AM
Towns should not be allowed to set speed limits within their boundaries. That's why you've got all kinds of nonsense like this.... this is a common phenomenon in rural America. Anyway, setting speed limits should be a state level function.
New Rome in Franklin County Ohio was a notorious speed trap.
From Wiki:
QuoteNew Rome speed trap
New Rome police had systematically taken advantage of the village's sudden drop (from 45 mph to 35 mph) in posted speed along the busy thoroughfare of West Broad Street to pull over thousands of motorists, raising nearly $400,000 gross annually from speeding tickets but primarily vehicle citations including trivial offenses such as dusty taillights and improperly tinted windows. Nearly all of this money was funneled back into the police force, which almost exclusively dealt with traffic violations and so essentially existed to fund itself. The 60-resident village had as many as 14 policemen (all part-time), with the Village Council wanting more. [3]
Many local business owners complained that customers were being driven away by the village's reputation, and there were many reports of arbitrary and even abusive conduct at the hands of the New Rome police, who even ventured into surrounding jurisdictions to arrest people over unpaid traffic tickets.
The Ohio Department of Transportation eventually decided that New Rome's lower speed limit was inconsistent with state law guidelines. The New Rome police force itself was suspended by the village in 2003 when its chief resigned, shortly after the village's mayor's court was abolished by the state, and so the speed trap came to an end.
More awesome:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/03q2/town_without_pity-feature
Yeah, there are lots of examples dude. There was a famous one in Missouri someplace until the state stepped in and literally dissolved the town government, kinda like what seemed to have happened in that New Rome joint. My understand is that these speed trap towns are also extremely common in Texas.
LOL America is funny. :D
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:19:42 AM
LOL America is funny. :D
I bet there is a Polish speed trap town someplace. I envision a town like that existing in the foothills of the Carpathians. Also it has vampires.
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:18:33 AM
Yeah, there are lots of examples dude. There was a famous one in Missouri someplace until the state stepped in and literally dissolved the town government, kinda like what seemed to have happened in that New Rome joint. My understand is that these speed trap towns are also extremely common in Texas.
I'd love to be a cop in a sleepy "village" just wasting away writing tickets. :blush:
That sounds kinda boring actually. I think most people who go into that line of work fantasize about beating poors, not doing paperwork.
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:22:11 AM
That sounds kinda boring actually. I think most people who go into that line of work fantasize about beating poors, not doing paperwork.
Beating poors is a fringe benefit.
Also, I like to be left alone. Sitting on some shitty street in my car would be awesome.
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:21:04 AM
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:19:42 AM
LOL America is funny. :D
I bet there is a Polish speed trap town someplace. I envision a town like that existing in the foothills of the Carpathians. Also it has vampires.
Wouldn't work here, since our police force is centralized and the same speed limits apply throughout the country, and city councils can't set them at will.
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:18:33 AM
My understand is that these speed trap towns are also extremely common in Texas.
Yes, yes they are.
Fortunately all you need to do is stay on the Interstate Highways and you can avoid them.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:24:14 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:22:11 AM
That sounds kinda boring actually. I think most people who go into that line of work fantasize about beating poors, not doing paperwork.
Beating poors is a fringe benefit.
Also, I like to be left alone. Sitting on some shitty street in my car would be awesome.
If you leave out the car you can start your hobo lifestyle today!
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:26:17 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:24:14 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:22:11 AM
That sounds kinda boring actually. I think most people who go into that line of work fantasize about beating poors, not doing paperwork.
Beating poors is a fringe benefit.
Also, I like to be left alone. Sitting on some shitty street in my car would be awesome.
If you leave out the car you can start your hobo lifestyle today!
I like taking showers.
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:25:46 AM
Wouldn't work here, since our police force is centralized and the same speed limits apply throughout the country, and city councils can't set them at will.
Ok. :(
But what about the vampires? :contract:
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:27:04 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:26:17 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:24:14 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:22:11 AM
That sounds kinda boring actually. I think most people who go into that line of work fantasize about beating poors, not doing paperwork.
Beating poors is a fringe benefit.
Also, I like to be left alone. Sitting on some shitty street in my car would be awesome.
If you leave out the car you can start your hobo lifestyle today!
I like taking showers.
And yet you want to be a redneck village sherriff. Make up your mind.
Quote from: Valmy on September 04, 2009, 07:25:57 AM
Yes, yes they are.
Fortunately all you need to do is stay on the Interstate Highways and you can avoid them.
I think I can predict where in Texas I might find these towns just by the county name. For example, Jim Hogg County HAS to contain at least one trap town. :cool:
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:25:46 AM
Wouldn't work here, since our police force is centralized and the same speed limits apply throughout the country, and city councils can't set them at will.
That sucks. The hilariously and disturbingly large amounts of power handed over to local goverments and school boards is what makes America great.
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:28:02 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:27:04 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:26:17 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:24:14 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:22:11 AM
That sounds kinda boring actually. I think most people who go into that line of work fantasize about beating poors, not doing paperwork.
Beating poors is a fringe benefit.
Also, I like to be left alone. Sitting on some shitty street in my car would be awesome.
If you leave out the car you can start your hobo lifestyle today!
I like taking showers.
And yet you want to be a redneck village sherriff. Make up your mind.
I'd also have a seement pond.
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:28:02 AMAnd yet you want to be a redneck village sherriff. Make up your mind.
He wants to be like Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane. :cool:
IIRC Rosco was pretty clean.
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:28:42 AM
I think I can predict where in Texas I might find these towns just by the county name. For example, Jim Hogg County HAS to contain at least one trap town. :cool:
The most infamous ones were just outside major cities. Some entire city budgets were funded just by busting people driving into Houston.
Quote from: Valmy on September 04, 2009, 07:29:01 AMThat sucks. The hilariously and disturbingly large amounts of power handed over to local goverments and school boards is what makes America great.
Totally unsurprising though, given Poland's history of being a Soviet satellite.
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:27:29 AM
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:25:46 AM
Wouldn't work here, since our police force is centralized and the same speed limits apply throughout the country, and city councils can't set them at will.
Ok. :(
But what about the vampires? :contract:
Wrong country. In fact, we don't even get much of Carpathians. :(
Quote from: Valmy on September 04, 2009, 07:30:00 AMThe most infamous ones were just outside major cities. Some entire city budgets were funded just by busting people driving into Houston.
I also envision there being a speed trap in Loving County, Texas (population: ~50).
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:30:48 AMWrong country. In fact, we don't even get much of Carpathians. :(
Is there ANYTHING Poland doesn't fail at? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:31:33 AM
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:30:48 AMWrong country. In fact, we don't even get much of Carpathians. :(
Is there ANYTHING Poland doesn't fail at? :rolleyes:
Pogroms? :unsure:
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 05:39:29 AM
Towns should not be allowed to set speed limits within their boundaries. ....setting speed limits should be a state level function.
no it should be municipal. the state would get it wrong in so many cases.
the article is a better argument for a state police force.
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:29:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:28:02 AMAnd yet you want to be a redneck village sherriff. Make up your mind.
He wants to be like Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane. :cool:
IIRC Rosco was pretty clean.
I'd be a corrupt cop near Berea-Richmond KY. Cute rural chicks seem to be produced there, so I'd take advantage of that.
You don't have the money for the ticket miss? Well there is a motel nearby where you can work the ticket off with me.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:33:01 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:29:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:28:02 AMAnd yet you want to be a redneck village sherriff. Make up your mind.
He wants to be like Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane. :cool:
IIRC Rosco was pretty clean.
I'd be a corrupt cop near Berea-Richmond KY. Cute rural chicks seem to be produced there, so I'd take advantage of that.
You don't have the money for the ticket miss? Well there is a motel nearby where you can work the ticket off with me.
Ok, but please be at least hot and take a good care of your body. The corrupt sexually molesting cops wouldn't be such a problem, if they didn't sport handlebar moustaches and beer bellies.
Quote from: saskganesh on September 04, 2009, 07:32:31 AMthe article is a better argument for a state police force.
I agree. We shall call ours the "Kentuckie Geheimestaatspolizei." :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:31:08 AM
I also envision there being a speed trap in Loving County, Texas (population: ~50).
It depends on whether they have a major road going through them.
The state highways always slow down to 40 Mph and go right through those small towns. You have to slow waaaay down without much warning.
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:34:59 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:33:01 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:29:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:28:02 AMAnd yet you want to be a redneck village sherriff. Make up your mind.
He wants to be like Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane. :cool:
IIRC Rosco was pretty clean.
I'd be a corrupt cop near Berea-Richmond KY. Cute rural chicks seem to be produced there, so I'd take advantage of that.
You don't have the money for the ticket miss? Well there is a motel nearby where you can work the ticket off with me.
Ok, but please be at least hot and take a good care of your body. The corrupt sexually molesting cops wouldn't be such a problem, if they didn't sport handlebar moustaches and beer bellies.
I don't drink beer.
Quote from: saskganesh on September 04, 2009, 07:32:31 AM
no it should be municipal. the state would get it wrong in so many cases.
the article is a better argument for a state police force.
We have them. They are, rather disturbingly, called the Department of Public Safety. No I am not making that up. I keep imagining a Texan Robbespierre demanding more arrests and executions.
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:32:23 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:31:33 AM
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:30:48 AMWrong country. In fact, we don't even get much of Carpathians. :(
Is there ANYTHING Poland doesn't fail at? :rolleyes:
Pogroms? :unsure:
You should invade Romania for your fair share of mountains and vampires.
I bet the videos of Polish cavalrymen charging Romanian T-55's would captivate the world.
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:29:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:28:02 AMAnd yet you want to be a redneck village sherriff. Make up your mind.
He wants to be like Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane. :cool:
I see him has Buford T. Justice.
Quote from: Valmy on September 04, 2009, 07:38:10 AM
We have them. They are, rather disturbingly, called the Department of Public Safety. No I am not making that up. I keep imagining a Texan Robbespierre demanding more arrests and executions.
What about the: Texas Rangers? :alberta:
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:44:23 AM
What about the: Texas Rangers? :alberta:
They are part of the Department of Public Safety.
Quote from: Valmy on September 04, 2009, 07:35:26 AM
The state highways always slow down to 40 Mph and go right through those small towns. You have to slow waaaay down without much warning.
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a highway in the first place? Our highways go around population centers.
Quote from: Iormlund on September 04, 2009, 07:46:34 AM
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a highway in the first place? Our highways go around population centers.
You have to understand the different sorts of Highways. The Inter-State highways are actual highways and usually do go around population centers and their speed limits do not change. The state highways are really just roads built to connect the various towns and cities and were usually built before the idea of modern highways really caught on (like they are generally just four lane roads without on or off ramps or anything you would normally associate with a highway). You drive on those if there is no major highway and since there are only a few major highways you use them alot.
We have that situation in a town right by me called Finchville. KY State Highway 55 goes right through the center of town, and the speed limit drops from 55 mph to 30 mph with virtually no warning. I suspect it's not truly a trap, because a) I've never seen anyone actually get pulled over, though there is always a cop car in sight, and b) the town literally only has this one road other than a few small alleys, and little kids are always running around... so there's a legit safety concern.
Quote from: Iormlund on September 04, 2009, 07:46:34 AM
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a highway in the first place? Our highways go around population centers.
Yeah, we're not talking about interstate highways here.
Go to http://maps.google.com (http://maps.google.com) and type in 'Finchville, KY'. Switch to street view and you can view Kentucky Highway 55 in all its glory and see what Valmy and I are talking about.
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:31:33 AM
Quote from: Martinus on September 04, 2009, 07:30:48 AMWrong country. In fact, we don't even get much of Carpathians. :(
Is there ANYTHING Poland doesn't fail at? :rolleyes:
Killing Jews.
Although they did have some assistance on the more technical aspects of the problem.
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:33:01 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:29:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:28:02 AMAnd yet you want to be a redneck village sherriff. Make up your mind.
He wants to be like Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane. :cool:
IIRC Rosco was pretty clean.
I'd be a corrupt cop near Berea-Richmond KY. Cute rural chicks seem to be produced there, so I'd take advantage of that.
You don't have the money for the ticket miss? Well there is a motel nearby where you can work the ticket off with me.
Yeah, that works out great every time. Do a goodle search on Gary Pignato.
Greece NY police officer coerces a stripper into sex.
Stripper files charges.
Turns out officer was fired from Rochester Police department, and lied on his application to Greece PD. Greece is a suburb of Rochester.
Pignato is now in jail.
Turns out that a police sergeant falsified the review of Pignatos application, in order to avoid the fact that he had been fired from the RPD, which would make him ineligible to work for the Greece PD. Sergeant is fired.
Then it turns out that the sergeant did so because he was ordered to by the Chief of Police for Greece! Chief is fired, and is now up on charges, since him and the sergeant were caught destroying evidence that implicated them.
Yeah, using your position as a cop to coerce sex works out great for everyone!
Yeah. These things are pretty common. As I recall, there was a squabble in NY over a stretch of 87 in the vicinity of Catskill where troopers were pulling over drivers for 1 MPH over the speed limit at the bottom of a hill, only stopping after a judge threw out a couple hundred tickets in a month and yelling at the cops to stop wasting the court's time.
Just for perspective, as bad as small town fascism can get, it's got nothing on Russian traffic police, especially in cities like Moscow. It's a fact known by absolutely everyone that Russian traffic police pulls people over almost exclusively to collect bribes, and they try to do at times which leave you very vulnerable (on the way to the international airport, for example). If you try to play it straight and opt to receive a citation, your license will be suspended until your court date, which as you may have guessed is many months away (don't worry, there will be more bribery opportunities later on if you realize your error, but obviously they'll be more expensive).
Quote from: Berkut on September 04, 2009, 08:20:25 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:33:01 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:29:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:28:02 AMAnd yet you want to be a redneck village sherriff. Make up your mind.
He wants to be like Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane. :cool:
IIRC Rosco was pretty clean.
I'd be a corrupt cop near Berea-Richmond KY. Cute rural chicks seem to be produced there, so I'd take advantage of that.
You don't have the money for the ticket miss? Well there is a motel nearby where you can work the ticket off with me.
Yeah, that works out great every time. Do a goodle search on Gary Pignato.
Greece NY police officer coerces a stripper into sex.
Stripper files charges.
Turns out officer was fired from Rochester Police department, and lied on his application to Greece PD. Greece is a suburb of Rochester.
Pignato is now in jail.
Turns out that a police sergeant falsified the review of Pignatos application, in order to avoid the fact that he had been fired from the RPD, which would make him ineligible to work for the Greece PD. Sergeant is fired.
Then it turns out that the sergeant did so because he was ordered to by the Chief of Police for Greece! Chief is fired, and is now up on charges, since him and the sergeant were caught destroying evidence that implicated them.
Yeah, using your position as a cop to coerce sex works out great for everyone!
Jesus fucking Christ, do I have to put a FUCKING DISCLAIMER on my posts when I joking?
God, you people annoy the fuck out of me sometimes.
Two days ago I was driving back from doing court in the middle of absolutely fucking nowhere down a long gravel highway. It's the kind of highway you can go an hour or two without meeting an oncoming vehicle.
So anyways, to my absolute shock, I get pulled over by the police! :o
It turns out that I was maybe 30 minutes from a tiny little town of about 200 people or so. The two police officer they were supposed to have weren't there, so they brought in two relief members. Their day job? Whitehorse city traffic patrol.
So this officer was pretty bored in a town of 200, so he hit the highway to practice his craft. :lol:
Wait, so were you speeding, or did he just pull you over for fun? :huh:
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 02:59:24 PM
Wait, so were you speeding, or did he just pull you over for fun? :huh:
Pulled him over for Apple gayness.
:lmfao:
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 04, 2009, 08:35:20 AM
Yeah. These things are pretty common. As I recall, there was a squabble in NY over a stretch of 87 in the vicinity of Catskill where troopers were pulling over drivers for 1 MPH over the speed limit at the bottom of a hill, only stopping after a judge threw out a couple hundred tickets in a month and yelling at the cops to stop wasting the court's time.
The draconian enforcement is the real problem. As Cal mentioned, there are actually usually valid reasons for the lower limits in or near towns (though not always).
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 02:59:24 PM
Wait, so were you speeding, or did he just pull you over for fun? :huh:
Oh, I was speeding. It's not as if I have EVER seen a cop on that highway.
QuoteAs of the census[3] of 2000, there were 184 people, 66 households, and 46 families residing in the town. The population density was 151.2/km² (394.6/mi²). There were 73 housing units at an average density of 60.0/km² (156.5/mi²). The racial makeup of the town was 4.35% White, 92.93% Black or African American, 0.54% from other races, and 2.17% from two or more races. 2.72% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.
Ah, the Delta. :lol:
Quote from: Valmy on September 04, 2009, 07:50:25 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on September 04, 2009, 07:46:34 AM
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a highway in the first place? Our highways go around population centers.
You have to understand the different sorts of Highways. The Inter-State highways are actual highways and usually do go around population centers and their speed limits do not change. The state highways are really just roads built to connect the various towns and cities and were usually built before the idea of modern highways really caught on (like they are generally just four lane roads without on or off ramps or anything you would normally associate with a highway). You drive on those if there is no major highway and since there are only a few major highways you use them alot.
Yeah, I remember this concept from my time down there driving between San Angelo and San Antonio.
Before hitting I-10, you'd be on those back-country highways, where you'd always go down from 55 to 45/35. And you'd have country cops crawling all over those highways.
I learned to either follow the limit, or let some yahoo, going over the limit, pass me, then use him to "run blocker" (ala Smokey and the Bandit ;) ), in order to cruise over the limit a bit.
Fun note: There's a pretty good chance I'll be passing through Jericho, AR sometime tomorrow. :unsure:
Quote from: Valmy on September 04, 2009, 07:50:25 AM
You have to understand the different sorts of Highways. The Inter-State highways are actual highways and usually do go around population centers and their speed limits do not change. The state highways are really just roads built to connect the various towns and cities and were usually built before the idea of modern highways really caught on (like they are generally just four lane roads without on or off ramps or anything you would normally associate with a highway). You drive on those if there is no major highway and since there are only a few major highways you use them alot.
Yep, although I'd add that our inter-state highways typically go through population centers as well. They just tend to cut through them as elevated highways.
Quote from: Berkut on September 04, 2009, 08:20:25 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 04, 2009, 07:33:01 AM
Quote from: Caliga on September 04, 2009, 07:29:33 AM
Quote from: Syt on September 04, 2009, 07:28:02 AMAnd yet you want to be a redneck village sherriff. Make up your mind.
He wants to be like Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane. :cool:
IIRC Rosco was pretty clean.
I'd be a corrupt cop near Berea-Richmond KY. Cute rural chicks seem to be produced there, so I'd take advantage of that.
You don't have the money for the ticket miss? Well there is a motel nearby where you can work the ticket off with me.
Yeah, that works out great every time. Do a goodle search on Gary Pignato.
Greece NY police officer coerces a stripper into sex.
Stripper files charges.
Turns out officer was fired from Rochester Police department, and lied on his application to Greece PD. Greece is a suburb of Rochester.
Pignato is now in jail.
Turns out that a police sergeant falsified the review of Pignatos application, in order to avoid the fact that he had been fired from the RPD, which would make him ineligible to work for the Greece PD. Sergeant is fired.
Then it turns out that the sergeant did so because he was ordered to by the Chief of Police for Greece! Chief is fired, and is now up on charges, since him and the sergeant were caught destroying evidence that implicated them.
Yeah, using your position as a cop to coerce sex works out great for everyone!
So,
not Baltimore, Maryland?
Quote from: garbon on September 05, 2009, 10:24:46 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 04, 2009, 07:50:25 AM
You have to understand the different sorts of Highways. The Inter-State highways are actual highways and usually do go around population centers and their speed limits do not change. The state highways are really just roads built to connect the various towns and cities and were usually built before the idea of modern highways really caught on (like they are generally just four lane roads without on or off ramps or anything you would normally associate with a highway). You drive on those if there is no major highway and since there are only a few major highways you use them alot.
Yep, although I'd add that our inter-state highways typically go through population centers as well. They just tend to cut through them as elevated highways.
The spaghetti junction at Atlanta, for example, is marvelous to behold.
Quote from: Barrister on September 04, 2009, 02:39:40 PM
Two days ago I was driving back from doing court in the middle of absolutely fucking nowhere down a long gravel highway. It's the kind of highway you can go an hour or two without meeting an oncoming vehicle.
So anyways, to my absolute shock, I get pulled over by the police! :o
It turns out that I was maybe 30 minutes from a tiny little town of about 200 people or so. The two police officer they were supposed to have weren't there, so they brought in two relief members. Their day job? Whitehorse city traffic patrol.
So this officer was pretty bored in a town of 200, so he hit the highway to practice his craft. :lol:
Did you insist that he gives you some professional courtesy? :D
Quote from: Ideologue on September 06, 2009, 01:55:42 AMThe spaghetti junction at Atlanta, for example, is marvelous to behold.
We have a spaghetti junction in Louisville. :cool: It's smaller-scale, but same basic idea.
Quote from: Caliga on September 06, 2009, 06:32:19 AM
We have a spaghetti junction in Louisville. :cool: It's smaller-scale, but same basic idea.
They just finished upgrading the mixing bowl on the DC beltway to a spaghetti junction. :cool:
Quote from: Martinus on September 06, 2009, 04:20:02 AM
Quote from: Barrister on September 04, 2009, 02:39:40 PM
Two days ago I was driving back from doing court in the middle of absolutely fucking nowhere down a long gravel highway. It's the kind of highway you can go an hour or two without meeting an oncoming vehicle.
So anyways, to my absolute shock, I get pulled over by the police! :o
It turns out that I was maybe 30 minutes from a tiny little town of about 200 people or so. The two police officer they were supposed to have weren't there, so they brought in two relief members. Their day job? Whitehorse city traffic patrol.
So this officer was pretty bored in a town of 200, so he hit the highway to practice his craft. :lol:
Did you insist that he gives you some professional courtesy? :D
I was NOT going to mention my job to him at all, but he ran the plate which comes back to "Department of Justice". So he asked me, and I sheepishly told him. Then we had a very nice and pleasant chat for awhile. :)