Summer's been quite cool here this year so this surprised me.
Great map of global water temperatures on the 2nd page of the link.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32495552/ns/us_news-environment/
QuoteWorld's ocean temps are warmest on record
At 62.6 degrees in July, that's a full degree above 20th Century average
updated 5:47 p.m. ET, Thurs., Aug 20, 2009
WASHINGTON - Steve Kramer spent an hour and a half swimming in the ocean Sunday — in Maine.
The water temperature was 72 degrees — more like Ocean City, Md., this time of year. And Ocean City's water temp hit 88 degrees this week, toasty even by Miami Beach standards.
Kramer, 26, who lives in the seaside town of Scarborough, said it was the first time he's ever swam so long in Maine's coastal waters. "Usually, you're in five minutes and you're out," he said.
It's not just the ocean off the Northeast coast that is super-warm this summer. July was the hottest the world's oceans have been in almost 130 years of record-keeping.
The average water temperature worldwide was 62.6 degrees, according to the National Climatic Data Center, the branch of the U.S. government that keeps world weather records. June was only slightly cooler, while August could set another record, scientists say. The previous record was set in July 1998 during a powerful El Nino weather pattern.
At a full degree above the 20th century average of 61.5 degrees, "the global ocean surface temperature for July 2009 was the warmest on record," the center said.
Large portions of many continents had substantially warmer-than-average temperatures, the center stated.
"The greatest departures from the long-term average were evident in Europe, northern Africa, and much of western North America," according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which oversees the center. "Broadly, across these regions, temperatures were about 4-7 degrees F above average."
El Nino, emissions as factors
Meteorologists said there's a combination of forces at work: A natural El Nino system just getting started on top of worsening man-made carbon emissions tied to global warming, and a dash of random weather variations. The resulting ocean heat is already harming threatened coral reefs. It could also hasten the melting of Arctic sea ice and help hurricanes strengthen.
"Arctic sea ice covered an average of 3.4 million square miles during July," the center said. "This is 12.7 percent below the 1979-2000 average extent and the third lowest July sea ice extent on record, behind 2007 and 2006."
The Gulf of Mexico, where warm water fuels hurricanes, has temperatures dancing around 90. Most of the water in the Northern Hemisphere has been considerably warmer than normal. The Mediterranean is about three degrees warmer than normal. Higher temperatures rule in the Pacific and Indian Oceans.
The heat is most noticeable near the Arctic, where water temperatures are as much as 10 degrees above average. The tongues of warm water could help melt sea ice from below and even cause thawing of ice sheets on Greenland, said Waleed Abdalati, director of the Earth Science and Observation Center at the University of Colorado.
Breaking heat records in water is more ominous as a sign of global warming than breaking temperature marks on land, because water takes longer to heat up and does not cool off as easily as land.
"This warm water we're seeing doesn't just disappear next year; it'll be around for a long time," said climate scientist Andrew Weaver of the University of Victoria in British Columbia. It takes five times more energy to warm water than land.
The warmer water "affects weather on the land," Weaver said. "This is another yet really important indicator of the change that's occurring."
Georgia Institute of Technology atmospheric science professor Judith Curry said water is warming in more places than usual, something that has not been seen in more than 50 years.
Add to that an unusual weather pattern this summer where the warmest temperatures seem to be just over oceans, while slightly cooler air is concentrated over land, said Deke Arndt, head of climate monitoring at the climate data center.
The pattern is so unusual that he suggested meteorologists may want to study that pattern to see what's behind it.
The effects of that warm water are already being seen in coral reefs, said C. Mark Eakin, coordinator of NOAA's coral reef watch. Long-term excessive heat bleaches colorful coral reefs white and sometimes kills them.
Bleaching has started to crop up in the Florida Keys, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands — much earlier than usual. Typically, bleaching occurs after weeks or months of prolonged high water temperatures. That usually means September or October in the Caribbean, said Eakin. He found bleaching in Guam Wednesday. It's too early to know if the coral will recover or die. Experts are "bracing for another bad year," he said.
The problems caused by the El Nino pattern are likely to get worse, the scientists say.
An El Nino occurs when part of the central Pacific warms up, which in turn changes weather patterns worldwide for many months. El Nino and its cooling flip side, La Nina, happen every few years.
During an El Nino, temperatures on water and land tend to rise in many places, leading to an increase in the overall global average temperature. An El Nino has other effects, too, including dampening Atlantic hurricane formation and increasing rainfall and mudslides in Southern California.
Warm water is a required fuel for hurricanes. What's happening in the oceans "will add extra juice to the hurricanes," Curry said.
Hurricane activity has been quiet for much of the summer, but that may change soon, she said. Hurricane Bill quickly became a major storm and the National Hurricane Center warned that warm waters are along the path of the hurricane for the next few days.
Hurricanes need specific air conditions, so warmer water alone does not necessarily mean more or bigger storms, said James Franklin, chief hurricane specialist at the National Hurricane Center in Miami.
© 2009 The Associated Press.
And what if summer was cool? Get on with the program: if it's cool, it is because the Earth is getting warmer. If it is warm, it is because the Earth is getting warmer.
:yeah:
Quote from: Tamas on August 21, 2009, 02:23:30 AM
And what if summer was cool? Get on with the program: if it's cool, it is because the Earth is getting warmer. If it is warm, it is because the Earth is getting warmer.
It was cool&rainy here, but at the same time, on the other coast of my country, they had a drought.
Judging climate by local weather isn't a valid scientific model.
Quote from: Tamas on August 21, 2009, 02:23:30 AM
And what if summer was cool? Get on with the program: if it's cool, it is because the Earth is getting warmer. If it is warm, it is because the Earth is getting warmer.
its about increased climate variability and more novel effects.
if you lived in a country with more than one climatic zone, you would see the differences. last week we had temps of 35C-40C, followed by a tornado(!) and thunderstorm last night. meanwhile 1800 miles out west, its been like October temperatures all summer. another 1200 miles west record forest fires because of heat and drought.
it is my fault. I hung on to my old light bulbs as long as I could.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 21, 2009, 08:10:58 AM
it is my fault. I hung on to my old light bulbs as long as I could.
The blame is not all yours. The other night I had left my oven on warm.
Sorry, didn't read. The article was obviously incorrect. There's no way the ocean could be over 60 degrees. That'd kill almost everything living in it.
Quote from: Neil on August 23, 2009, 04:14:48 PM
Sorry, didn't read. The article was obviously incorrect. There's no way the ocean could be over 60 degrees. That'd kill almost everything living in it.
The degrees are obviously in Fahrenheit.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 23, 2009, 04:21:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 23, 2009, 04:14:48 PM
Sorry, didn't read. The article was obviously incorrect. There's no way the ocean could be over 60 degrees. That'd kill almost everything living in it.
The degrees are obviously in Fahrenheit.
Sorry, but you can't expect anybody to read it if it's written in barbarian.
Quote from: callmeclemens on August 23, 2009, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 21, 2009, 08:10:58 AM
it is my fault. I hung on to my old light bulbs as long as I could.
The blame is not all yours. The other night I had left my oven on warm.
Replying to yourself again?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 23, 2009, 04:50:08 PM
Quote from: callmeclemens on August 23, 2009, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 21, 2009, 08:10:58 AM
it is my fault. I hung on to my old light bulbs as long as I could.
The blame is not all yours. The other night I had left my oven on warm.
Replying to yourself again?
?
Oh, i get it. Sockpuppet. You fuckers aren't
that interesting to waste time creating multiple accounts on.
I blame the Swedes.
Quote from: Tamas on August 21, 2009, 02:23:30 AM
And what if summer was cool? Get on with the program: if it's cool, it is because the Earth is getting warmer. If it is warm, it is because the Earth is getting warmer.
:yes:
I blame the Bills for global warming by not making the playoffs in almost a decade. The Earth keeps getting warmer and the Bills keep losing. What more scientific proof do you need?