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Title: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: KRonn on August 19, 2009, 02:46:21 PM
Now we just need to build the Starships to go with the cloaking devices! 

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,540522,00.html?test=latestnews

Cloaking Technology May Protect From Natural Disasters


Cloaking, that perennial technology of comic books and sci-fi series, may be one step closer to reality.

Researchers have developed a new cloaking method that may someday prevent submarines and fighter jets from being detected by sonar and radar. It might also be used to shield buildings and oil rigs from the devastating effects of earthquakes and tsunamis.

As it is often depicted in sci-fi movies and books, cloaking involves making an object partly or completely invisible to incoming radiation such as light or radio waves.

Books and games like "Harry Potter" and "Halo" have popularized the kind of cloaking that blocks visible light to turn an object invisible to the naked eye, though the more plausible types of cloaking being developed are geared toward blocking microwaves, infrared light, radio and TV waves (all these forms of radiation are part of the electromagnetic spectrum).

And while there are already various cloaking methods available, this latest technology is the first to use antennas to generate waves instead of relying on exotic metals or "metamaterials" to protect objects from electromagnetic waves coming from sonar or radar. Metamaterial is created by combining two or more materials to extend the range of electromagnetic effects.

"It's a brand new method of cloaking," said Graeme Milton, lead author of the study and a professor at the University of Utah. "It is two-dimensional, but we believe it can be extended easily to three dimensions, meaning real objects could be cloaked."

Compared to previous forms of cloaking that were only capable of hiding objects from very specific wavelengths of radiation, scientists say the new method can hide objects from a broader band of wavelengths, including sound waves, sea waves, and seismic waves.

"The problem with metamaterials is that their behavior depends strongly on the frequency you are trying to cloak from," Milton said. "So it is difficult to obtain broadband cloaking. Maybe you'd be invisible to red light, but people would see you in blue light."

Building Bigger Shields

Experiments conducted by the researchers showed it is possible to cloak something 10 times wider than the 4-inch microwaves that are emitted by radar, raising hopes for cloaking larger objects. So far, the largest object cloaked from microwaves was an inch-wide copper cylinder.

"We proved mathematically that this method works when the wavelength of incoming electromagnetic radiation is large compared with the objects being cloaked, meaning it can cloak very small objects," Milton says. "It also can cloak larger objects."

Milton says the cloaking devices cause "destructive interference," similar to when two pebbles are thrown in a pond and generate ripples of waves. In places where wave crests meet, the waves add up and the crests are taller. Where troughs meet, the troughs are deeper. But where crests cross troughs, the water is still because they cancel each other out.

The principle, applied to sound waves, is "sort of like noise cancelation devices you get with headphones in airplanes if you travel first class," Milton said.

The mathematical feasibility of the new cloaking technique is detailed in the journals Optics Express and Physical Review Letters. The research team designed a computer model to simulate how such a cloaking device would work.

"The research simulates on a computer what you should see in an experiment," Milton says. "We just do the math and hope other people do the experiments."

Blocking Natural Disasters

Results from the study demonstrate that it is conceivable to build cloaking devices that generate waves to create a quiet zone to protect oil rigs against incoming tsunami waves, or to create vibrations to neutralize incoming seismic waves from an earthquake.

"Our method may have application to water waves, sound and radar," Milton said. "It would be wonderful if you could cloak buildings against earthquakes. That's on the borderline of what's possible."

One disadvantage of the new method "is that it appears you must know in advance everything about the incoming wave," Milton said. That might require placement of numerous sensors to detect incoming seismic waves or tsunamis.

Milton also said the technology is unlikely to lead to the kind of cloaking that can make the Romulan ships of "Star Trek" disappear.

"The cloaking device would have to generate fields that have very small wavelengths," Milton said. "It is very difficult to build antennas the size of light waves. We're so far from cloaking real-sized objects to visible light that it's incredible."

Though cloaking from light "is probably impossible, it's a fascinating subject, and there is beautiful mathematics behind it," Milton said. "The whole area has exploded. So even if it's not going to result in a 'Harry Potter' cloak, it will have spinoffs in other directions," not only in protecting objects from waves of various sorts, but "for building new types of antennas, being able to see things on a molecular scale. It's sort of a renaissance in classical science, with new ideas popping up all the time."
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: garbon on August 19, 2009, 02:50:40 PM
I'll show you my cloak if you show me yours.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Josquius on August 19, 2009, 02:50:59 PM
wtf?
This sounds more like a forcefield than cloaking...blimey.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Barrister on August 19, 2009, 02:51:33 PM
Romulans is spelled with an A. :nerd:
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: KRonn on August 19, 2009, 02:56:11 PM
Quote from: Barrister on August 19, 2009, 02:51:33 PM
Romulans is spelled with an A. :nerd:
Right you are, Dr Spock!
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: jimmy olsen on August 20, 2009, 12:11:33 AM
Quote from: Tyr on August 19, 2009, 02:50:59 PM
wtf?
This sounds more like a forcefield than cloaking...blimey.
Yeah, sounds awesome!
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on August 20, 2009, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Tyr on August 19, 2009, 02:50:59 PM
wtf?
This sounds more like a forcefield than cloaking...blimey.

exactly
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: jimmy olsen on August 20, 2009, 01:16:13 PM
Also, it's Romulans, not Romulins.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Siege on August 23, 2009, 11:18:36 AM
Awesome.

Also, Romulans is with an "A".



Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Lettow77 on August 23, 2009, 11:36:39 AM
 Ah, siege, I posted here to correct that, but your a step ahead.

I always liked Romulans.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Neil on August 23, 2009, 12:05:38 PM
To divert a tsunami or earthquake would require ridiculous amounts of energy.  We're talking hundreds of terajoules or more.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: DontSayBanana on August 23, 2009, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: Lettow77 on August 23, 2009, 11:36:39 AM
Ah, siege, I posted here to correct that, but your a step ahead.

I always liked Romulans.

Romulans are Vulcans for emo kids. <_<
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Ape on August 23, 2009, 05:05:57 PM
I think  this would be in violation of the Khitomer Accords :nerd:
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Neil on August 23, 2009, 05:23:40 PM
Quote from: Ape on August 23, 2009, 05:05:57 PM
I think  this would be in violation of the Khitomer Accords :nerd:
No country on the Earth is a signatory to the Khitomer Accords.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: jimmy olsen on August 23, 2009, 05:27:56 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 23, 2009, 05:23:40 PM
Quote from: Ape on August 23, 2009, 05:05:57 PM
I think  this would be in violation of the Khitomer Accords :nerd:
No country on the Earth is a signatory to the Khitomer Accords.
And that's a good thing because it must be the most unballanced treaty ever willingly signed by a major power.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: DontSayBanana on August 23, 2009, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: Ape on August 23, 2009, 05:05:57 PM
I think  this would be in violation of the Khitomer Accords :nerd:

The Khitomer Accords barred the Federation from using cloaking devices. The United States should be fine. :contract:
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Ape on August 23, 2009, 05:35:25 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on August 23, 2009, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: Ape on August 23, 2009, 05:05:57 PM
I think  this would be in violation of the Khitomer Accords :nerd:

The Khitomer Accords barred the Federation from using cloaking devices. The United States should be fine. :contract:
Tell that to the Klingons   :menace:
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Neil on August 23, 2009, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 23, 2009, 05:27:56 PM
And that's a good thing because it must be the most unballanced treaty ever willingly signed by a major power.
What makes you say that?  The seperation of the Klingon and Romulan Star Empires, and the drawing of the Klingon Empire into the orbit of the Federation was devastatingly effective.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 23, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
Goddamn nerds.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 23, 2009, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 23, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
Goddamn nerds.

Damn inconsiderate of them. There should have been a warning in the thread title or something.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 23, 2009, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 23, 2009, 06:00:29 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 23, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
Goddamn nerds.

Damn inconsiderate of them. There should have been a warning in the thread title or something.

I'm busy looking down on them.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: DontSayBanana on August 23, 2009, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 23, 2009, 06:02:25 PM
I'm busy looking down on them.

Look at your avatar; you're just a nerd in denial. :P
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 24, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on August 23, 2009, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 23, 2009, 06:02:25 PM
I'm busy looking down on them.

Look at your avatar; you're just a nerd in denial. :P

I keep the inner nerd locked away and away from the sunlight. Girls hate nerds.

Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Valmy on August 24, 2009, 09:58:14 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 24, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
I keep the inner nerd locked away and away from the sunlight. Girls hate nerds.

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Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Ed Anger on August 24, 2009, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 24, 2009, 09:58:14 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 24, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
I keep the inner nerd locked away and away from the sunlight. Girls hate nerds.

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I'm sorry, but those are rare in the wild.
Title: Re: New cloaking technology! Romulins beware!
Post by: Valmy on August 24, 2009, 10:29:39 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 24, 2009, 10:22:05 AM
I'm sorry, but those are rare in the wild.

They are but those were the only sort of women who would end up actually wanting a relationship with me :P