QuotePETA wants Grand Haven lighthouses for fish empathy center
Doug Guthrie / The Detroit News
Grand Haven's Lake Michigan lighthouses are the prime location sought by an animal rights group for its anti-fishing campaign headquarters.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has applied through a federal program to take over the structures and lighted catwalk that are frequently photographed for dramatic sunsets, thick winter ice and crashing waves.
The area gets nearly 2 million annual visitors, including anglers casting lines into the Grand River channel and heading out in boats for Great Lakes salmon.
"We want to renovate the Grand Haven lights as a memorial to the billions of fish killed annually by sport fishermen, as well as for their flesh (commercial fishing industry)," said Lindsey Rajt, manager of PETA's campaigns department. "We also want to make it a fun and educational place."
Tentative PETA plans call for an education center, where visitors would learn about fish. There also would be a cafe, offering vegetarian fare including "faux fish."
Signs would likely announce the lighthouse as home of PETA's Fish Empathy Center.
Locals are dumbfounded by the proposal.
"It doesn't make any sense to me at all," Capt. Dan Tebo said Tuesday, a mile offshore in his Grand Haven-based fishing charter boat the D'Ann Marie. "We fish here for the fish. That's what God gave them to us for."
Nonprofit groups have been encouraged to apply for ownership of lighthouses nationwide to help the government shed the cost of preservation.
PETA also has applied to take over three more lighthouses: Robbins Reef off Bayonne, N.J., Punta Tuna in Puerto Rico and Kewaunee, Wis.
Authorities in Grand Haven don't believe the National Park Service will allow the politicization of a public property.
"I don't think PETA is who Washington had in mind," said Marci Cisneros of the Grand Haven area convention bureau.
The Fish Empathy Center is way too weak-tea. They should call it the National Fish Holocaust Museum.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 19, 2009, 09:26:53 AM
QuotePETA also has applied to take over three more lighthouses: Robbins Reef off Bayonne, N.J., Punta Tuna in Puerto Rico and Kewaunee, Wis.
Oh, hell, no. Not in my backyard- we should shell it from Liberty Lightship and Romer Shoal to prevent it from falling into the hands of the enemy. :D
As long as they keep their mitts off Hitler Pond, I'll be happy.
http://www.placenames.com/us/p1041627/
Quote from: DontSayBanana on August 19, 2009, 10:08:08 AM
Oh, hell, no. Not in my backyard- we should shell it from Liberty Lightship and Romer Shoal to prevent it from falling into the hands of the enemy. :D
Bayonne is your backyard? :unsure:
Quote from: DGuller on August 19, 2009, 10:12:34 AM
Bayonne is your backyard? :unsure:
NJ is my backyard. The rest of the world is the community park. :contract:
Anyway, I'd like to spare some family up in Rutherford the pain of having to deal with close PETA proximity...
Quote from: Savonarola on August 19, 2009, 09:26:53 AM
QuotePETA wants Grand Haven lighthouses for fish empathy center
Doug Guthrie / The Detroit News
Grand Haven's Lake Michigan lighthouses are the prime location sought by an animal rights group for its anti-fishing campaign headquarters.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has applied through a federal program to take over the structures and lighted catwalk that are frequently photographed for dramatic sunsets, thick winter ice and crashing waves.
The area gets nearly 2 million annual visitors, including anglers casting lines into the Grand River channel and heading out in boats for Great Lakes salmon.
"We want to renovate the Grand Haven lights as a memorial to the billions of fish killed annually by sport fishermen, as well as for their flesh (commercial fishing industry)," said Lindsey Rajt, manager of PETA's campaigns department. "We also want to make it a fun and educational place."
Tentative PETA plans call for an education center, where visitors would learn about fish. There also would be a cafe, offering vegetarian fare including "faux fish."
Signs would likely announce the lighthouse as home of PETA's Fish Empathy Center.
Locals are dumbfounded by the proposal.
"It doesn't make any sense to me at all," Capt. Dan Tebo said Tuesday, a mile offshore in his Grand Haven-based fishing charter boat the D'Ann Marie. "We fish here for the fish. That's what God gave them to us for."
Nonprofit groups have been encouraged to apply for ownership of lighthouses nationwide to help the government shed the cost of preservation.
PETA also has applied to take over three more lighthouses: Robbins Reef off Bayonne, N.J., Punta Tuna in Puerto Rico and Kewaunee, Wis.
Authorities in Grand Haven don't believe the National Park Service will allow the politicization of a public property.
"I don't think PETA is who Washington had in mind," said Marci Cisneros of the Grand Haven area convention bureau.
The Fish Empathy Center is way too weak-tea. They should call it the National Fish Holocaust Museum.
I like the way you think. :lol:
Quote from: Savonarola on August 19, 2009, 09:26:53 AM
QuotePETA wants Grand Haven lighthouses for fish empathy center
Doug Guthrie / The Detroit News
Grand Haven's Lake Michigan lighthouses are the prime location sought by an animal rights group for its anti-fishing campaign headquarters.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) has applied through a federal program to take over the structures and lighted catwalk that are frequently photographed for dramatic sunsets, thick winter ice and crashing waves.
The area gets nearly 2 million annual visitors, including anglers casting lines into the Grand River channel and heading out in boats for Great Lakes salmon.
"We want to renovate the Grand Haven lights as a memorial to the billions of fish killed annually by sport fishermen, as well as for their flesh (commercial fishing industry)," said Lindsey Rajt, manager of PETA's campaigns department. "We also want to make it a fun and educational place."
Tentative PETA plans call for an education center, where visitors would learn about fish. There also would be a cafe, offering vegetarian fare including "faux fish."
Signs would likely announce the lighthouse as home of PETA's Fish Empathy Center.
Locals are dumbfounded by the proposal.
"It doesn't make any sense to me at all," Capt. Dan Tebo said Tuesday, a mile offshore in his Grand Haven-based fishing charter boat the D'Ann Marie. "We fish here for the fish. That's what God gave them to us for."
Nonprofit groups have been encouraged to apply for ownership of lighthouses nationwide to help the government shed the cost of preservation.
PETA also has applied to take over three more lighthouses: Robbins Reef off Bayonne, N.J., Punta Tuna in Puerto Rico and Kewaunee, Wis.
Authorities in Grand Haven don't believe the National Park Service will allow the politicization of a public property.
"I don't think PETA is who Washington had in mind," said Marci Cisneros of the Grand Haven area convention bureau.
The Fish Empathy Center is way too weak-tea. They should call it the National Fish Holocaust Museum.
They would if they thought they'd get away with it, or could get the publicity. PETA doesn't really see a difference between millions of dead people and millions of dead fish.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 19, 2009, 09:26:53 AM
The Fish Empathy Center is way too weak-tea. They should call it the National Fish Holocaust Museum.
:lol:
Doesn't having a memorial to billions of dead fish that's fun sort of defeat the purpose?
Man, I have a hard enough time empathizing with people. I'm not going to try with a fucking fish.
The poor fish. :( Oh, the fish-manity!
First PETA came for the animals, then for the birds, now the fish! Pretty soon the insects and reptiles. Then the plants, because plants have feelings too. Soon, too soon, we'll be sitting on this planet starving to death en masse, while vast herds of animals and schools of fish roam freely!! :hide:
:huh: Killing a fish for its flesh kind of defeats the purpose.
Quote from: Razgovory on August 19, 2009, 11:33:06 AM
Man, I have a hard enough time empathizing with people. I'm not going to try with a fucking fish.
what if they were "sea kittens?" PETA wants to change their name
http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/index.asp
Quote from: saskganesh on August 19, 2009, 04:44:10 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 19, 2009, 11:33:06 AM
Man, I have a hard enough time empathizing with people. I'm not going to try with a fucking fish.
what if they were "sea kittens?" PETA wants to change their name
http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/index.asp
Wow, whoever thought that campaign up is pretty twisted.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 19, 2009, 04:45:35 PM
Wow, whoever thought that campaign up is pretty twisted.
I wonder how many PETA employees are true believers and how many are professional trolls. I read the description of the campaign, it was (intentionally) funny. The person who wrote it up *has* to realize how ridiculous it makes them look.
Quote from: KRonn on August 19, 2009, 11:41:16 AM
The poor fish. :( Oh, the fish-manity!
First PETA came for the animals, then for the birds, now the fish! Pretty soon the insects and reptiles. Then the plants, because plants have feelings too. Soon, too soon, we'll be sitting on this planet starving to death en masse, while vast herds of animals and schools of fish roam freely!! :hide:
No they won't. Peta will probably make sure no animal will eat another animal.
Quote from: Razgovory on August 19, 2009, 11:33:06 AM
Man, I have a hard enough time empathizing with people. I'm not going to try with a fucking fish.
The fish deserve it more.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 19, 2009, 04:45:35 PMWow, whoever thought that campaign up is pretty twisted.
Why is that? It makes perfect sense: anthropomorph a species into one that is more identifiable with human companionship. I think it's a great idea.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 19, 2009, 05:42:34 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 19, 2009, 04:45:35 PMWow, whoever thought that campaign up is pretty twisted.
Why is that? It makes perfect sense: anthropomorph a species into one that is more identifiable with human companionship. I think it's a great idea.
Except Asians will eat anything, and Spaniards don't have consciences. Thus, fish will continue to be slaughtered.
Once again, PETA fails to understand their audience and how the world works.
Quote from: Neil on August 19, 2009, 06:31:07 PM
Except Asians will eat anything, and Spaniards don't have consciences. Thus, fish will continue to be slaughtered.
Once again, PETA fails to understand their audience and how the world works.
And anthropomorphization makes fish more palatable to Syt. :contract:
Quote from: DontSayBanana on August 19, 2009, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 19, 2009, 06:31:07 PM
Except Asians will eat anything, and Spaniards don't have consciences. Thus, fish will continue to be slaughtered.
Once again, PETA fails to understand their audience and how the world works.
And anthropomorphization makes fish more palatable to Syt. :contract:
Actually, Germans are exactly the sort of people that this would work on, due to their moral cowardice.
Besides, Syt just uses the cannibalism fetish talk as a preemptive defense to being accused of a scat fetish.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 19, 2009, 07:19:15 PM
Besides, Syt just uses the cannibalism fetish talk as a preemptive defense to being accused of a scat fetish.
True. I guess I'd rather be associated with eating people than willingly being shat upon, as well...
Quote from: DontSayBanana on August 19, 2009, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 19, 2009, 06:31:07 PM
Except Asians will eat anything, and Spaniards don't have consciences. Thus, fish will continue to be slaughtered.
Once again, PETA fails to understand their audience and how the world works.
And anthropomorphization makes fish more palatable to Syt. :contract:
Their feces at least.
So does this mean that eating caviar is right out? :unsure:
Speaking of whales, PETA's now stooping to fat jokes:
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/08/17/petas-whale-billboard-has-the-intertwitter-fraternal-council/?icid=main
Quote from: merithyn on August 20, 2009, 07:12:42 AM
So does this mean that eating caviar is right out? :unsure:
PETA response would be that its like eating your own ovaries.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 19, 2009, 05:39:43 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 19, 2009, 11:33:06 AM
Man, I have a hard enough time empathizing with people. I'm not going to try with a fucking fish.
The fish deserve it more.
What have you got against fish?