...in a doom & gloom story about youth unemployment in Spain. Even my street gets mentioned! There are a few mistakes on the piece, but roughly the picture is true.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1909486,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1909486,00.html)
Fellationes.
Will pay extra attention to the article when it comes.
Quote from: The Larch on August 11, 2009, 05:56:42 AMThere are a few mistakes on the piece
Only a few is pretty damn good for Time.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 11, 2009, 06:06:45 AM
Fellationes.
Will pay extra attention to the article when it comes.
Apparently it was published in July. Local press was mentioning it today and tracking the people they talk about. The girl from the main story actually got a new job already.
wow. Vigo was so prosperous it could support a third tattoo parlor. I had no idea.
..."I'm getting by on piercings." :lol:
Quote from: saskganesh on August 11, 2009, 06:36:13 AM
wow. Vigo was so prosperous it could support a third tattoo parlor. I had no idea.
..."I'm getting by on piercings." :lol:
A third tattoo parlour in the same street. :P That's where I live (typo on the name of the street, by the way), and AFAIK at least two are still open. :lol: A bit puzzling as an indicator, I agree.
Quote from: The Larch on August 11, 2009, 06:37:53 AM
Quote from: saskganesh on August 11, 2009, 06:36:13 AM
wow. Vigo was so prosperous it could support a third tattoo parlor. I had no idea.
..."I'm getting by on piercings." :lol:
A third tattoo parlour in the same street. :p That's where I live (typo on the name of the street, by the way), and AFAIK at least two are still open. :lol: A bit puzzling as an indicator, I agree.
It made me think of Regina, Saskatchewan. Tats may as well have been the economic growth strategy for a few years in the 00's.
Holy cow
Quote(by 2007, 81% of families owned their own home and 21% had a second one)
That's a lot of people with second homes :blink:
Quote from: Tyr on August 11, 2009, 07:34:30 AM
Holy cow
Quote(by 2007, 81% of families owned their own home and 21% had a second one)
That's a lot of people with second homes :blink:
It really depends on which kind of second home they're talking about, it's not necessarily a "house at the beach" thingie. At least in my region, and I think it also applies to the whole of Spain, it's quite common for families to have their first home wherever they live, and another house back in the village where their parents came from.
I am willing to help out hott unemployed Spanish girls
Quote from: Tamas on August 11, 2009, 07:57:51 AM
I am willing to help out hott unemployed Spanish girls
No dogs or gypsy's allowed.
Quote from: Tamas on August 11, 2009, 07:57:51 AM
I am willing to help out hott unemployed Spanish girls
I bet unemployed Hungarian girls are hotter and much more conveniently located for you.
Quote from: Valmy on August 11, 2009, 07:59:07 AM
Quote from: Tamas on August 11, 2009, 07:57:51 AM
I am willing to help out hott unemployed Spanish girls
I bet unemployed Hungarian girls are hotter and much more conveniently located for you.
Quote from: Ed AngerNo dogs or gypsy's allowed.
Not bad Larch, grats on your hometown being a big part of the story.
Though as I read the article, it seems to point out the systemic problems for younger educated workers in many European countries (Greece, Spain, France mentioned) trying to get jobs and then progress up the economic ladder, even during the better economic times. I assume the same happens in the US, though I think mostly for low or non-skilled workers.
17% unemployment! That's Depression territory.
I wish my city would be talked about for its high unemployment. :(
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 09:48:28 AM
17% unemployment! That's Depression territory.
It seems like in the early to mid 1980s Spain used to regularly have ridiculous levels of unemployment...like 30% IIRC.
Quote from: Valmy on August 11, 2009, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 09:48:28 AM
17% unemployment! That's Depression territory.
It seems like in the early to mid 1980s Spain used to regularly have ridiculous levels of unemployment...like 30% IIRC.
How does a society function like that?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 10:02:48 AM
How does a society function like that?
People who do work must support a lot of dependants.
My city made the cover back in 1993 when that part of it was washed away.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 10:02:48 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 11, 2009, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 09:48:28 AM
17% unemployment! That's Depression territory.
It seems like in the early to mid 1980s Spain used to regularly have ridiculous levels of unemployment...like 30% IIRC.
How does a society function like that?
Emigration.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 09:48:28 AM
17% unemployment! That's Depression territory.
That's not so extraordinary in Spain, we're used to high unemployment like that. It peaked at around 25% in 92-93.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 10:02:48 AM
Quote from: Valmy on August 11, 2009, 10:01:12 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 09:48:28 AM
17% unemployment! That's Depression territory.
It seems like in the early to mid 1980s Spain used to regularly have ridiculous levels of unemployment...like 30% IIRC.
How does a society function like that?
Lots of underground economy, specially amongst the self employed. Working "under the table" is the norm in many sectors.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 11, 2009, 09:48:28 AM
17% unemployment! That's Depression territory.
By American standards, maybe. With our limited safety net (although much improved from the times of Great Depression), high unemployment like that would indeed be an enormous strain on society. European countries can life with higher unmployment like that (on the flip side, they do wind up living with that kind of unemployment frequently).
Quote from: The Larch on August 11, 2009, 11:14:58 AM
Lots of underground economy, specially amongst the self employed. Working "under the table" is the norm in many sectors.
Is it related to abuse of welfare payments to the unemployed? Meaning that you don't want to be known as employed for fear of losing or reducing your benefits?
Quote from: DGuller on August 11, 2009, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: The Larch on August 11, 2009, 11:14:58 AM
Lots of underground economy, specially amongst the self employed. Working "under the table" is the norm in many sectors.
Is it related to abuse of welfare payments to the unemployed? Meaning that you don't want to be known as employed for fear of losing or reducing your benefits?
Nope, unemployment benefits are not exactly stellar in Spain. It's mostly about skimming taxes.
Bragança had that dubious honour before too :D