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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 09:02:03 PM

Title: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 09:02:03 PM
Just shameful that things have come to this in the richest state in the Union.

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-prisoners5-2009aug05,0,6302835.story

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Judges order state to release nearly 43,000 prisoners in next two years
By Carol J. Williams, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
3:38 PM PDT, August 4, 2009

California's prisons are so overcrowded that the state is violating inmates' constitutional rights, three federal judges ruled today in a decision imposing a cap on the prison population that will force the state to release nearly 43,000 prisoners over the next two years.

The 185-page opinion also accused the state of fostering "criminogenic" conditions, compelling former prisoners to commit more crimes and feed a cycle of recidivism.

The effect of the judges' ruling in two inmate challenges to their conditions dovetails with early-release proposals aired during last month's heated budget debate in the state Legislature as lawmakers sought to close a $26.3-billion deficit.

The ruling by three federal judges stems from challenges by two inmates alleging that the state's network of 33 prisons is so overcrowded that they are denied adequate health care and treatment of mental illnesses.

California's prisons, designed to hold 84,000 inmates, house 158,000, much of the overflow contained in converted sports facilities arrayed with triple-tier bunks. That exposes prisoners to infectious diseases, the lawsuits alleged, constituting cruel and unusual punishment in a system suffering a shortage of doctors, nurses and technicians.

U.S. District Judge Thelton Henderson seized oversight of the prison healthcare network in 2006 and put a court-appointed receiver in place to carry out a thorough reform of the system, in which inmates were dying of curable or avoidable conditions at the rate of one a week. The current receiver, Clark Kelso, said in a recent interview that his staff was making progress in upgrading antiquated medical records-keeping and medication-dispensing, but that the fruits of those projects remained at least a year away.

In late July, during the heated debate over how to close a $26.3-billion shortfall in the state budget, California lawmakers passed $1.2 billion in cuts to the state prison system that envisioned some early releases of inmates. But they put off deciding specific details amid harsh resistance by law-and-order advocates who fear any mass release of prisoners would endanger public safety.

In a preliminary ruling issued by the three judges in February, the state was advised to reduce the prison population by about a third, meaning as many as 57,000 inmates would have to be moved out of the state facilities over a two- to three-year period.

Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown denounced the earlier ruling as "the latest intrusion" of the federal courts into the state's affairs, and he is expected to appeal today's ruling.

Chief Deputy Atty. Gen. Jim Humes said the office was "still digesting" the decision and state lawyers were discussing with the governor's office how to comply with the judges' order for a plan to be produced within the next 45 days to achieve the prison population reduction target.

"This order doesn't release anybody from prison, it just orders the state to come up with a plan," Humes said of the judges' ruling. "We have no immediate plans to appeal this particular order, but there would definitely be thought given to appeal any order that would ultimately order releases."

Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on August 04, 2009, 09:14:19 PM
Just shoot them and convert the remains into low grade solient green for export.
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on August 04, 2009, 09:24:04 PM
why not give all of them jobs building infrastructure projects like a new sundeck for Arnie?
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: Neil on August 04, 2009, 09:36:50 PM
Gas the lot of them.  Anyone who has committed a crime serious enough to warrant imprisonment deserves to die anyways.
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: saskganesh on August 04, 2009, 10:51:59 PM
good news for potheads.
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: garbon on August 04, 2009, 11:52:37 PM
Yay!
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on August 04, 2009, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on August 04, 2009, 10:51:59 PM
good news for potheads.

:cool:
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: Faeelin on August 05, 2009, 12:02:03 AM
I wonder if they'll be letting any victims of the Three Strikes Law out...
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: DGuller on August 05, 2009, 12:46:22 AM
Too bad they killed Qusay, that guy knew how to make room in prisons.
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: KRonn on August 05, 2009, 07:32:33 AM
There should be a few hundred or thousand spots opened up in Gitmo for these people to finish out their prison terms.     ;)
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: saskganesh on August 05, 2009, 08:46:46 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 04, 2009, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: saskganesh on August 04, 2009, 10:51:59 PM
good news for potheads.

:cool:

they have yet to decide who would be let out, so they will likely release all the guys with misdemeanors and keep the people in who are actually dangerous.

apparently, that's up to 40% of the prison population.
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: Strix on August 05, 2009, 08:51:51 AM
They would probably save more money by reducing them to two meals a day. And make prison more, you know, uncomfortable.
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: Caliga on August 05, 2009, 08:52:51 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 04, 2009, 09:02:03 PM
Just shameful that things have come to this in the richest state in the Union.
The what now?
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: Caliga on August 05, 2009, 08:53:12 AM
Quote from: Strix on August 05, 2009, 08:51:51 AM
They would probably save more money by reducing them to two meals a day. And make prison more, you know, uncomfortable.
Let's put Joe Arpaio in charge. :alberta:
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: Valmy on August 05, 2009, 08:54:41 AM
For a second I thought they had forcibly removed 43,000 people from the state.

'It is too crowded here, so we picked 43,000 people at random and marched them under gunpoint into Nevada.'
Title: Re: California to release 43,000 because of overcrowding
Post by: Caliga on August 05, 2009, 08:56:35 AM
You are a clever and creative young patriot, Valmy.  I am appointing you: Reichskommisar. :)