QuoteCommentary: Why Obama's plans are stalled
By Julian E. Zelizer
Special to CNN
Editor's note: Julian E. Zelizer is a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School. His new book, "Arsenal of Democracy: The Politics of National Security -- From World War II to the War on Terrorism," will be published this fall by Basic Books. Zelizer writes widely about current events.
Julian Zelizer says Obama's biggest challenge is the split within his own party in Congress.
PRINCETON, New Jersey (CNN) -- The second hundred days of Barack Obama's presidency have in many ways been more revealing than the first hundred days.
We have learned a lot, not so much about Obama's governing style or his policy agenda, but about the political environment in which he will have to operate -- at least until the 2010 midterm elections.
Obama has experienced some difficult challenges since April. On paper, the administration has clearly not achieved the same kind of sweeping early legislative record as his Democratic predecessors such as Franklin Roosevelt or Lyndon Johnson. We have not witnessed the creation of another New Deal or Great Society.
The economic stimulus bill is the most ambitious legislation to move through Congress thus far. The financial and economic bailout program has proved extremely important as well, but that comes from the Troubled Asset Relief Program begun by President George W. Bush at the height of the financial crisis.
The two big-ticket items for the administration -- health care and the environment -- are stalled in Congress. There is a potential compromise looming on health care that would fall far short of Obama's campaign promises. At the same time, most of the national security policies that were put into place after September 11 by the Bush administration remain intact.
Many of the challenges confronting Obama have resulted from the difficulties of the environment in which he governs.
One of the biggest challenges has been the division within the Democratic Party between a handful of centrists and the liberal base. The tensions immediately became apparent when moderates forced Congress to reduce the size of the economic stimulus bill back in February.
That was just a taste of things to come. The intra-party divisions have become more pronounced in the debate over health care. Sens. Max Baucus and Kent Conrad have held their ground by resisting the public insurance option endorsed by the White House as well as many of the finance proposals that have been made in Congress.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has been forced to contend with a vocal group of Blue Dog Democrats who want to impose more stringent cost-cutting measures and are also resisting paying for benefits with a surtax on high-income earners.
There is little evidence that these tensions will dissipate, and they exist with other issues as well, including environmental legislation. As a result, Democrats will lose some of the institutional benefits that they might have expected from having a 60-person majority in the Senate.
The second problem for Obama is that partisan polarization is alive and well. Despite all the talk about bipartisanship in the 2008 campaign, the sources of polarization are deeply rooted in our modern political system. Therefore, even with a new president in town, the same kinds of partisan wars have been playing out.
There is little love on either side of the aisle. Republicans have been relatively consistent in lining up against the administration's proposals. The Senate vote for Judge Sonia Sotomayor's confirmation to the Supreme Court is expected to draw fewer Republican votes than the number of Democrats who voted for George W. Bush's nominees, John Roberts and Samuel Alito.
With Obama's approval numbers dropping, Republicans will certainly come back from their summer break even more confident about saying no to him. While the improvement of the economy could give the president a boost, it will also diminish the sense of crisis that had put Republicans on the defensive.
A third challenge is that the the government reform efforts that Obama touted in his campaign haven't materialized, and thus Washington still works the way it did before he took office. As Americans have seen so many times, promises about government reform quickly fade once a campaign ends.
Although Obama did implement some new lobbying rules upon taking power, he has shown minimal interest in the procedural problems that he highlighted on the campaign trail: the power of interest groups, the role of private money in campaigns, the revolving door between K Street and Capitol Hill and more.
Back in January 2006, he told a lobbying summit at the National Press Club that, "The American people are tired of a Washington that's only open to those with the most cash and the right connections. They're tired of a political process where the vote you cast isn't as important as the favors you can do. And they're tired of trusting us with their tax dollars when they see them spent on frivolous pet projects and corporate giveaways."
His point, one that he made many times, was that without reforming the political process, it is virtually impossible to change policy and restore trust in government. But the process has not changed, and there is no evidence that it will. As a result, Obama will be attempting to obtain new policies in a town where interest groups and lobbyists remain organized, powerful and committed to the status quo.
Finally, Obama has learned how difficult it is to retrench public policies. Presidents often have to live with the world they inherit. Conservatives learned this lesson with domestic policy. In 1981 and 1982, Ronald Reagan was forced to back down from proposed cuts to Social Security after encountering a political backlash. George W. Bush discovered the same thing in 2005.
Although Obama's campaign started with a promise of fundamentally changing the direction of national security policy, in the second hundred days, there has not been much evidence that he will be able to accomplish those goals, outside of completing the scheduled withdrawal from Iraq (though leaving more troops there than many hoped for).
As Jack Goldsmith, a former Bush administration official and a leading public critic of Bush, documented in a recent article in The New Republic, Obama has kept most of President Bush's post-9/11 national security programs in place while resisting efforts to conduct an investigation into potential abuses during the Bush years.
Goldsmith wrote, "the new administration has copied most of the Bush program, has expanded some of it, and has narrowed only a bit." While troops are leaving Iraq, the United States is enlarging its troop presence in Afghanistan.
Obama's first challenge in the third hundred days must be to diminish problem number one. Until he can unite Democrats more effectively, it will be almost impossible to achieve major legislative victories.
Without major victories, his opponents won't be scared about taking him on. If this is the case, the third hundred days might look much less like the promise of the 2008 election and more like the political world that Obama wanted to transform.
I thought this was a good editorial on some points. I didn't seriously expect Obama to reform the political process or work with Republicans; but I did expect that he would be able to work with Congressional Democrats better than he has and that he would have changed more of the Bush era War on Terror policies.
No bold = no read.
Quote from: The Brain on August 04, 2009, 03:36:06 PM
No bold = no read.
Sorry, but after some of our not-exactly-in-the-gifted-class posters said that they didn't read the last article I posted because I didn't bold I decided never to bold anything again; except for comic purposes. I think everyone is happier that way. :)
Quote from: Savonarola on August 04, 2009, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 04, 2009, 03:36:06 PM
No bold = no read.
Sorry, but after some of our not-exactly-in-the-gifted-class posters said that they didn't read the last article I posted because I didn't bold I decided never to bold anything again; except for comic purposes. I think everyone is happier that way. :)
I may not be gifted but I am a wonderful person.
Quote from: The Brain on August 04, 2009, 03:40:56 PM
I may not be gifted but I am a wonderful person.
And we're all better for having known you. :)
Quote from: Savonarola on August 04, 2009, 03:45:06 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 04, 2009, 03:40:56 PM
I may not be gifted but I am a wonderful person.
And we're all better for having known you. :)
It's not like you have all known me. Just Habs, Grallon, kat and a few others...
Quote from: Savonarola on August 04, 2009, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 04, 2009, 03:36:06 PM
No bold = no read.
Sorry, but after some of our not-exactly-in-the-gifted-class posters said that they didn't read the last article I posted because I didn't bold I decided never to bold anything again; except for comic purposes. I think everyone is happier that way. :)
Excellent.
The article is chock full of obvious.
Quote from: Savonarola on August 04, 2009, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 04, 2009, 03:36:06 PM
No bold = no read.
Sorry, but after some of our not-exactly-in-the-gifted-class posters said that they didn't read the last article I posted because I didn't bold I decided never to bold anything again; except for comic purposes. I think everyone is happier that way. :)
Can you bold some of this?
Big majorities are always going to find you choking on moderates. If the Democrats turn on their moderates they will simply hand control back over to the Republicans...who will then have the same problem.
But then that has only been true since...um...1788?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 04, 2009, 04:59:11 PM
The article is chock full of obvious.
With hindsight, yes, but I like the bitter reminder of the hope, change and unity that Obama promised. It's like the end of Brave New World when the savage repeats to himself Miranda's lines as he remembers the former promise of the new land he was going to. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-lVuztIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-lVuztIY
Check this out. I've heard of how onerous the dealership closings have been; it's been in the news. This is a Congress Woman addressing members about the heavy handedness that went on.
Take note of how dealers were forced to close, lose their assets, everything, in a week or so. That kind of thing. I heard similar on the various news channels when it was happening and it had me surprised then. I can only imagine massive lawsuits by these dealers.
I just wonder, what do you guys think? What have you heard, for or against the closings and such?
I don't give a shit about the dealers.
Has anybody seen Hans or Derspicy around here? or are they busy shouting at town hall meetings?
Quote from: Valmy on August 04, 2009, 05:29:09 PM
Big majorities are always going to find you choking on moderates. If the Democrats turn on their moderates they will simply hand control back over to the Republicans...who will then have the same problem.
It seems like a lefty problem. I don't remember Bush having to deal with an influential group of moderates from 2002-06. It reminds me of the old Tony Benn line. The Labour party elects a leader and then argues with them, vigorously and publically until that leader chooses to step down. The Tories elect a leader and then applaud them vigorously and near-constantly, until they plunge the dagger into their back.
Edit: Except for Social Security which was 2005, I think immigration reform was the same period. So he got a good 3 years of a relatively acquiescent party, indeed I don't think they were terribly difficult in 2000-02 either.
Quote from: katmai on August 04, 2009, 07:07:32 PM
Has anybody seen Hans or Derspicy around here? or are they busy shouting at town hall meetings?
I think spiess is on a business trip. No clue about Hans.
The democrats are stalling because they insist on driving wimpy hybrids.
:blush:
Quote from: alfred russel on August 05, 2009, 10:49:34 AM
The democrats are stalling because they insist on driving wimpy hybrids.
:blush:
Bah, I kind of like my new Camry Hybrid.
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 05, 2009, 11:02:27 AM
Bah, I kind of like my new Camry Hybrid.
Funny, I never took you for a DAMN DIRTY HIPPY. :mad:
Quote from: katmai on August 04, 2009, 07:07:32 PM
Has anybody seen Hans or Derspicy around here? or are they busy shouting at town hall meetings?
Speesh posted not too long ago.
It just struck me that our two most conservative posters are both race traitors.
well... who exactly figured Obama was going to "change" everything in the first six months.
He does actually have a minimum of 4 years. 6 months in and he hasn't radically changed a polarized annoyed country out of it's horrific economic and cultural crisis? wow what a chump. :rolleyes:
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 05, 2009, 11:37:48 AM
well... who exactly figured Obama was going to "change" everything in the first six months.
I talked to several Obama voters during the campaign who said the reason they were voting for him was because he "was going to change things."
You can also see the disappointment among some supporters like Fate and Feelin.
Quote from: KRonn on August 04, 2009, 06:46:04 PM
Take note of how dealers were forced to close, lose their assets, everything, in a week or so. That kind of thing. I heard similar on the various news channels when it was happening and it had me surprised then. I can only imagine massive lawsuits by these dealers.
I just wonder, what do you guys think? What have you heard, for or against the closings and such?
With gov help: some dealers were forced to close, lose their assets, everything, in a week or so.
Withouth gov help: all dealers were forced to close, lose their assets, everything, in a week or so.
Really, GM was near bankruptcy. There was very little economic reasons to help GM, but let's see what would have happenned to the dealers without gov help for GM:
1- GM goes into bankruptcy.
2- GM tries to negotiate itself out of bankruptcy, but without the power of the US Gov to back it up, many feel it's time to cut their losses and let GM go rather than risk losing even more in the future.
OR
2a - GM sucessfully restructurates itself without any gov help.
So what happens for #3?
There's too many dealers, too many models, not enough sales. So dealers are forced to close.
Ford did exactly the same a few years ago, but since there were no financial crisis at the time, they were able to re-negotiate their debts at the time, something GM/Chrysler could never have done on their own this year.
10 years ago, there were 4 Ford dealers in a 70km radius, 2 in a 20km radius.
Now the nearest one is over 100km away.
So, that's what happens when a company is forced to "restructurate" itself. They eliminate less profitable models, they eliminate/merge sales point. With or without government help, that happens.
Now, assuming there was 100% chance of GM going bankrupt and closing shop without GOV help, what happens to dealers? Can you be a GM dealer if you can't seel any new GM models? Who would buy a brand new GM knowing there is absolutely no warranty? I'd probably pay 20k$ for a vehicle worth 35k$, but the dealer would absorb the loss and still go bankrupt in the end...
Really, I don't get why they are complaining to the government about that.
Around here, some GM dealers have simply switched banners and/or sued GM for breach of contract in some cases.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 05, 2009, 11:42:37 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 05, 2009, 11:37:48 AM
well... who exactly figured Obama was going to "change" everything in the first six months.
I talked to several Obama voters during the campaign who said the reason they were voting for him was because he "was going to change things."
You can also see the disappointment among some supporters like Fate and Feelin.
and they were stupid enough to think he could wade through all the bullshit party ppolitics(from all sides it's a bureaucracy first and foremost) and fix the world's largest economy overnight? my opinion of those posters has fallen further.
Quote from: viper37 on August 05, 2009, 11:56:38 AM
With gov help: some dealers were forced to close, lose their assets, everything, in a week or so.
Withouth gov help: all dealers were forced to close, lose their assets, everything, in a week or so.
I think this is the crux of the issue. GM was going through government controlled bankruptcy, but some, or many, dealers which are private businesses, were forced to close down and lose everything, plus some forced to give their customer lists to others, and what ever else mandated, all in a very short time. Did some dealers lose their entire business, assets, -millions of dollars for some? Looks like it and that's at least part of the complaints I heard the Congress woman saying, plus on news reports. Why did the dealers, independent businesses, have to just shut down so fast and lose so much in the process? If GM isn't going to deal with them anymore ok, but forcing them to shut down so quickly, many of them losing assets, is just wrong headed, ugly.
Also on the youtube the Congress woman talks of some dealers being able to wheel and deal if they had a strong Democrat Congress member representing them.
I'll wait for more on this to come out, but it sure looks like it was done pretty heavy handedly, pretty badly managed.
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on August 05, 2009, 11:59:39 AM
and they were stupid enough to think he could wade through all the bullshit party ppolitics(from all sides it's a bureaucracy first and foremost) and fix the world's largest economy overnight? my opinion of those posters has fallen further.
You'd think there would be some indication that he'll one day be able to make change happen. :mellow:
Quote from: KRonn on August 05, 2009, 12:23:21 PM
Also on the youtube the Congress woman talks of some dealers being able to wheel and deal if they had a strong Democrat Congress member representing them.
That Congresswoman is Michelle Bachmann. She verges to the occassionally nutty. She said that the Americorps bill, which Orrin Hatch said was the most bipartisanly supported bill he can think of, contained provisions for 'compulsory' 're-education camps' for young people. She spent her time in Committee questioning Ben Bernanke and Tim Geithner to see whether or not they support a 'global currency'. She's said she want's a committee to investigate anti-Americanism in Congress, though she retracted that comment. She does sometimes make rather odd comments and I wouldn't really consider her reliable. From what I've seen of her she's only slightly more sane than Glen Beck.