Given the international situation, what are your plans for surviving the likely coming apocalypse*
I'm in Southern England, so if more than a few nukes start flying my fellow Brits and I are truly fucked, as it'll take only a handful of warheads targeted at England's urban corridor to leave smoking ruins a la 'threads'. So not sure it's worth making any survival preparations.
Alternative the situation just worse and worse each month, for some months or a couple of years before starvation becomes a probable end. Any amount of prepping and food storage is only going to delay that by a few months, perhaps.
A second 'given' is we've so over armed ourselves, that there's enough reserves to fuel the fighting over the remaining bunkers of canned goods and ready meals to last a bad few years. When that's done I don't think they'll be many left in the West.
So my hope for humanity lies with the those already on the margins of survival, those in the harsh near desert conditions or the high mountains. Those people have the necessary skills to survive on little and the remaining lunatics amongst our 'civilisation' aren't going to make it there with the weapons to kill them off.
That's my hope and in a way it's a lot better than some fucking billionaires making it to Mars, to continue their social media wars.
* however you can to define it, though I don't think theres many here who think bad shit ain't gonna happen.
When I was a child I used to think it was sad that people inevitably died of old age, if not before. But then I learned a lot about history and politics, I now think it is a good thing that we all have to die, the sole remaining equality left.
Realistically I'm going to roll the dice and hope that whatever location I happen to be in is not directly blown up and then muddle through whatever the local conditions are, to the best of my ability.
Theoretically the "survivor" scenario is probably finding somewhere likely in the remote wilds of BC, but do I have the wherewithal and capital to actual do anything about it prior to things kicking off? No, not really.
My plan is more the opposite, camp outside the nearby jet fighter factory and hope for swift annihilation.
I'm in the DC suburbs, so I'll try to see if the nuke has a British flag or a French flag on it before it detonates. :bowler: :frog:
I like to think that we're not quite done yet. We will slowly boil in climate change rather than sudden nuclear fire.
Head for the hills, start a commune, become emperor. Failing that, die screaming.
I screwed up, I was just in Portugal a few days ago, where I would have better chances in the countryside near Bragança than in Paris. :(
I had pinpointed a hamlet, somewhat isolated, where I had some family.
Too late?
Quote from: Syt on January 19, 2026, 12:28:56 PMI like to think that we're not quite done yet. We will slowly boil in climate change rather than sudden nuclear fire.
So there is still hope after all. :) :P
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquis_(World_War_II)
Vengeance.
Stop paying attention to the Apocalypse, it just wants attention. I'd send my family at least to the cottage if it's just regular invasion and war. If it's every power on Earth fires off their entire arsenal then, depending on the season my family cottage in the Eastern highlands. Nuking Iceland is weird, you really only need one warhead for the greater Reykjavík area and one for Keflavík so anything beyond that is an enormous waste. Which would leave plenty intact to rebuild the nation.
I am currently preparing for a possible economic depression, clearing out debts and stockpiling resources in case we all lose our jobs. If an actual apocalypse breaks out well I guess I needn't worry. Nothing much I can do about that.
You won't have to worry about your debts if it comes to the apocalypse, though. :D
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 19, 2026, 01:05:54 PMYou won't have to worry about your debts if it comes to the apocalypse, though. :D
Exactly.
Oh, banks and other cockroaches will survive.
I thought only scorpions would survive. :(
Quote from: Norgy on January 19, 2026, 01:30:25 PMOh, banks and other cockroaches will survive.
Max 3 years until you have to pay VAT on your cod purchase.
Quote from: Norgy on January 19, 2026, 01:30:25 PMOh, banks and other cockroaches will survive.
Yeah well they can send collection agencies after my irradiated corpse.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 19, 2026, 01:31:20 PMI thought only scorpions would survive. :(
Cockroaches, scorpions, mole rats, and secret US government genetic engineering experiments will survive.
It's a conundrum. If I was alone I'd, like RH, setup camp near an obvious target and hope for instantaneous death. I have had a good run, why bother trying to scrape through some extra months in the new hellscape.
But with a wife and a toddler, I'd owe it to them to offer what meager survival chances I can. But how? If it's a sudden nuking we'll likely survive the direct strikes but be showered in fallout and I suspect there are WAY more people around the wider M25 circle than food reserves so... IDK. Maybe rather than just sit and wait to die, die while trying hopelessly to track back to one of our families in Eastern Europe, but with all cars EMP-ed we won't get far.
If it's something that has a near-obvious buildup perhaps try and figure out what's the remotest area of Wales and try to time an Airbnb there? :P Maybe fly to my parents' place a prep. Could easily end up just as bad as here but from fallout protection to longer-term survival it's the best bet out of available options.
Grim.
I live downwind an industrial harbour, a powerplant and a fuel storage silo's.
Guess I'll die.
I wasn't just focusing on nuclear annihilations, it's quite possible that not too many nukes are used, enough to destroy government and much military, but leaving large numbers of civilians alive, the one's in American being armed to the teeth; think 21st century 'Sea Peoples'. :ph34r:
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on January 19, 2026, 12:46:38 PMI screwed up, I was just in Portugal a few days ago, where I would have better chances in the countryside near Bragança than in Paris. :(
I had pinpointed a hamlet, somewhat isolated, where I had some family.
Too late?
Duque, no it's not too late, but hang around any longer and you'll get increasing numbers of European languishite wanting to tag along, if you'll only meet them at the Gare du Nord. :bowler:
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on January 19, 2026, 02:00:10 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on January 19, 2026, 01:31:20 PMI thought only scorpions would survive. :(
Cockroaches, scorpions, mole rats, and secret US government genetic engineering experiments will survive.
So there is still hope for deathclaws. :)
Plan A: I don't plan on surviving the apocalypse.
Plan B: improvise.
I got it covered, all angles.
Quote from: mongers on January 19, 2026, 03:11:21 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on January 19, 2026, 12:46:38 PMI screwed up, I was just in Portugal a few days ago, where I would have better chances in the countryside near Bragança than in Paris. :(
I had pinpointed a hamlet, somewhat isolated, where I had some family.
Too late?
Duque, no it's not too late, but hang around any longer and you'll get increasing numbers of European languishite wanting to tag along, if you'll only meet them at the Gare du Nord. :bowler:
If the tunnel survives (key infrastructure likely to be targeted), no need for boats. :)
I would not recommend a bike however; might have to do it on foot. :P
I'll survive the first nuclear blasts. I won't escape the fallout, it'll float down the St-Lawrence valley. I expect Montreal to be vaped in the first strike along with Toronto.
During the Cold War, I'm sure they planned strikes against Washington D.C., New York, L.A. etc.
Now, I think they'll target Washington and major Red States.
Anyway. In my physical state, without the modern supply chain, I won't survive long.
So, unless there's a coup in Washington D.C., t'was nice knowing y'all.
I probably won't even notice the flash before I'm gone, so that's good.
I don't think Montreal is getting nuked, the fallout from NYC will be enough.
I'm next to Russia, so die probably.
Just wanna get it over with.
I, for one, look forward to wearing a hockey mask and riding around on motorcycles.
QuoteI, for one, look forward to wearing a hockey mask and riding around on motorcycles.
Well the motorbike is a good idea for the post-apocalypse, I should look into getting another one, before it's too late.
Though, a mini gyrocopter might be a better investment. :hmm:
Quote from: mongers on January 20, 2026, 06:11:41 AMQuoteI, for one, look forward to wearing a hockey mask and riding around on motorcycles.
Well the motorbike is a good idea for the post-apocalypse, I should look into getting another one, before it's too late.
Those have electric parts as well don't they? Won't survive the nuclear EMP blasts.
I know you wrote not to focus on nucular apocalypse but most of any kind will turn into that.
I'm screwed :lol: :ph34r:
Quote from: mongers on January 20, 2026, 06:11:41 AMQuoteI, for one, look forward to wearing a hockey mask and riding around on motorcycles.
Well the motorbike is a good idea for the post-apocalypse, I should look into getting another one, before it's too late.
Soundtrack of the next apocalypse ?
;)
QuoteQuoteQuoteI, for one, look forward to wearing a hockey mask and riding around on motorcycles.
Well the motorbike is a good idea for the post-apocalypse, I should look into getting another one, before it's too late.
Soundtrack of the next apocalypse ?
;)
Not mine, probably more Tonitrus's look. :)
Quote from: Tonitrus on January 20, 2026, 07:35:58 AMI prefer:
With the kids? :lol:
You'll get a Mötley Crüe version instead, (much more) yank / United Statesian:
In a world War scenario, how heavily targeted will locations in Africa, Indonesia and South America be?
If we don't make the planet completely uninhabitable, post apocalypse humanity could end up being a lot less white than it is now.
Would the US bother hitting Australia? If not we've got our white bastion :lol:
I wonder what it is like in a Five Eyes meeting these days
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 20, 2026, 10:52:38 AMI wonder what it is like in a Five Eyes meeting these days
It's actually Six Eyes, someone else is now also watching. :ph34r:
Quote from: mongers on January 20, 2026, 12:15:25 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on January 20, 2026, 10:52:38 AMI wonder what it is like in a Five Eyes meeting these days
It's actually Six Eyes, someone else is now also watching. :ph34r:
Not directly...only through the Palantír.
Quote from: Tonitrus on January 20, 2026, 12:29:33 PMQuote from: mongers on January 20, 2026, 12:15:25 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on January 20, 2026, 10:52:38 AMI wonder what it is like in a Five Eyes meeting these days
It's actually Six Eyes, someone else is now also watching. :ph34r:
Not directly...only through the Palantír.
I was imply they belonged to Putin.
I know...and followed up on that with an appropriate LOTR reference.
Quote from: Tonitrus on January 20, 2026, 12:41:02 PMI know...and followed up on that with an appropriate LOTR reference.
The metaphor is a bit mixed because Palantir is associated with Thiel who has a different LotR villain association than Putin.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 20, 2026, 06:04:23 AMJust wanna get it over with.
Yeah, I have nowhere to run to anyway.
Saw the northern lights yesterday, major bucket list item completed. I'd really like to make it to the solar eclipse though.
Right now I'm feeling slightly less pessimistic than last night.
Meh, I grew up thinking nuclear annihilation was a certainty. We were constantly reminded how close to midnight we were. The world went through a period of time believing that threat was behind us. It wasn't and now we go back to that status quo now that the interregnum of world cooperation has ended.
Quote from: Tonitrus on January 20, 2026, 12:41:02 PMI know...and followed up on that with an appropriate LOTR reference.
:blush:
Quote from: crazy canuck on January 20, 2026, 04:12:16 PMMeh, I grew up thinking nuclear annihilation was a certainty. We were constantly reminded how close to midnight we were. The world went through a period of time believing that threat was behind us. It wasn't and now we go back to that status quo now that the interregnum of world cooperation has ended.
There was a certain logic to M.A.D, there is now an absence of that in the W.H.
Quote from: Jacob on January 20, 2026, 01:07:17 PMQuote from: Tonitrus on January 20, 2026, 12:41:02 PMI know...and followed up on that with an appropriate LOTR reference.
The metaphor is a bit mixed because Palantir is associated with Thiel who has a different LotR villain association than Putin.
There were several Palantir. Enough for all the necessary villains. :sleep: :nerd:
I question the premise behind the thread title. It wasn't nice knowing most of you. :mad:
Quote from: Jacob on January 20, 2026, 03:36:50 PMRight now I'm feeling slightly less pessimistic than last night.
He realized he can't just order 5* generals around to do whatever he wants.
Quote from: viper37 on January 21, 2026, 01:52:39 PMQuote from: Jacob on January 20, 2026, 03:36:50 PMRight now I'm feeling slightly less pessimistic than last night.
He realized he can't just order 5* generals around to do whatever he wants.
Not this batch. Give him a year or so to shuffle them out.
Quote from: viper37 on January 21, 2026, 01:52:39 PMQuote from: Jacob on January 20, 2026, 03:36:50 PMRight now I'm feeling slightly less pessimistic than last night.
He realized he can't just order 5* generals around to do whatever he wants.
[nitpick] There haven't been any 5-star American generals in Omar Bardley died in 1981. [/nitpick] :nerd:
It took a lot of self control for me not to post the same thing. :D
Quote from: grumbler on January 21, 2026, 10:17:10 PMQuote from: viper37 on January 21, 2026, 01:52:39 PMQuote from: Jacob on January 20, 2026, 03:36:50 PMRight now I'm feeling slightly less pessimistic than last night.
He realized he can't just order 5* generals around to do whatever he wants.
[nitpick] There haven't been any 5-star American generals in Omar Bardley died in 1981. [/nitpick] :nerd:
They're all 3*?
I thought there was a fuss because one AirForce general wasn't of the proper rank when nominated by Trump/Heggseth.
Quote from: viper37 on January 22, 2026, 10:43:41 AMThey're all 3*?
I thought there was a fuss because one AirForce general wasn't of the proper rank when nominated by Trump/Heggseth.
The five-star rank (O-11) was created specifically to honor several flag officers after World War II. It is technically a rank level, but has not been, and was not intended to be, issued to any other officers. Four-star (O-10) is the actual highest rank in the US military.
What a bunch of dorks!
:P
5 stars are no big deal anyways. Small fry compared to Pershing.
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on January 22, 2026, 10:56:54 AMQuote from: viper37 on January 22, 2026, 10:43:41 AMThey're all 3*?
I thought there was a fuss because one AirForce general wasn't of the proper rank when nominated by Trump/Heggseth.
The five-star rank (O-11) was created specifically to honor several flag officers after World War II. It is technically a rank level, but has not been, and was not intended to be, issued to any other officers. Four-star (O-10) is the actual highest rank in the US military.
Thanks! :)
So it's apocalypse postponed?
Well at least until next month. :)
Quote from: mongers on January 27, 2026, 09:45:56 PMSo it's apocalypse postponed?
Well at least until next month. :)
Yes. The next thing will come along soon.
The massacre of the protestors in Iran and the shooting of the two protestors in Minnesota are distracting us currently from the next threat of war.
Volatile markets when you are creating the volatility = profit
From the Globe and Mail
QuoteAtomic scientists set their "Doomsday Clock" on Tuesday closer than ever to midnight, citing aggressive behaviour by nuclear powers Russia, China and the United States, fraying nuclear arms control, conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East and AI worries among factors driving risks for global disaster.
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists set the clock to 85 seconds before midnight, the theoretical point of annihilation. That is four seconds closer than it was set last year. The Chicago-based non-profit created the clock in 1947 during the Cold War tensions that followed World War Two to warn the public about how close humankind was to destroying the world.
The scientists voiced concern about threats of unregulated integration of artificial intelligence into military systems and its potential misuse in aiding the creation of biological threats, as well as AI's role in spreading disinformation globally. They also noted continuing challenges posed by climate change.
Quote from: mongers on January 27, 2026, 09:45:56 PMSo it's apocalypse postponed?
Well at least until next month. :)
The US govt just relaxed their rules on nuclear reactor use, safety rules & all.
It's likely there'll be a nuclear reactor meltdown before Ottawa and Copenhagen receive the first strike of WW3.
I just want it to get it done with. I don't wanna be an extra in Mad Max Massachusetts. Just one of the skeletons in the background.
At least you can help found the Minutemen. :)
Though hopefully Fenway gets leveled this time. :D :menace:
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on January 28, 2026, 08:02:26 PMI just want it to get it done with. I don't wanna be an extra in Mad Max Massachusetts. Just one of the skeletons in the background.
I want to be one of the skeletons in Fallout, posed in a funny way that nobody moves after 200 years.
"Madam, do you know there is a skeleton sitting at one of the booths in your dinner"
"Yeah, he brings in customers."
No. I am a the human equivalent of a indistinct blur and I would prefer to remain that way in death.