Given the international situation, what are your plans for surviving the likely coming apocalypse*
I'm in Southern England, so if more than a few nukes start flying my fellow Brits and I are truly fucked, as it'll take only a handful of warheads targeted at England's urban corridor to leave smoking ruins a la 'threads'. So not sure it's worth making any survival preparations.
Alternative the situation just worse and worse each month, for some months or a couple of years before starvation becomes a probable end. Any amount of prepping and food storage is only going to delay that by a few months, perhaps.
A second 'given' is we've so over armed ourselves, that there's enough reserves to fuel the fighting over the remaining bunkers of canned goods and ready meals to last a bad few years. When that's done I don't think they'll be many left in the West.
So my hope for humanity lies with the those already on the margins of survival, those in the harsh near desert conditions or the high mountains. Those people have the necessary skills to survive on little and the remaining lunatics amongst our 'civilisation' aren't going to make it there with the weapons to kill them off.
That's my hope and in a way it's a lot better than some fucking billionaires making it to Mars, to continue their social media wars.
* however you can to define it, though I don't think theres many here who think bad shit ain't gonna happen.
When I was a child I used to think it was sad that people inevitably died of old age, if not before. But then I learned a lot about history and politics, I now think it is a good thing that we all have to die, the sole remaining equality left.
Realistically I'm going to roll the dice and hope that whatever location I happen to be in is not directly blown up and then muddle through whatever the local conditions are, to the best of my ability.
Theoretically the "survivor" scenario is probably finding somewhere likely in the remote wilds of BC, but do I have the wherewithal and capital to actual do anything about it prior to things kicking off? No, not really.
My plan is more the opposite, camp outside the nearby jet fighter factory and hope for swift annihilation.
I'm in the DC suburbs, so I'll try to see if the nuke has a British flag or a French flag on it before it detonates. :bowler: :frog:
I like to think that we're not quite done yet. We will slowly boil in climate change rather than sudden nuclear fire.
Head for the hills, start a commune, become emperor. Failing that, die screaming.
I screwed up, I was just in Portugal a few days ago, where I would have better chances in the countryside near Bragança than in Paris. :(
I had pinpointed a hamlet, somewhat isolated, where I had some family.
Too late?
Quote from: Syt on Today at 12:28:56 PMI like to think that we're not quite done yet. We will slowly boil in climate change rather than sudden nuclear fire.
So there is still hope after all. :) :P
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Vengeance.
Stop paying attention to the Apocalypse, it just wants attention. I'd send my family at least to the cottage if it's just regular invasion and war. If it's every power on Earth fires off their entire arsenal then, depending on the season my family cottage in the Eastern highlands. Nuking Iceland is weird, you really only need one warhead for the greater Reykjavík area and one for Keflavík so anything beyond that is an enormous waste. Which would leave plenty intact to rebuild the nation.
I am currently preparing for a possible economic depression, clearing out debts and stockpiling resources in case we all lose our jobs. If an actual apocalypse breaks out well I guess I needn't worry. Nothing much I can do about that.
You won't have to worry about your debts if it comes to the apocalypse, though. :D
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on Today at 01:05:54 PMYou won't have to worry about your debts if it comes to the apocalypse, though. :D
Exactly.
Oh, banks and other cockroaches will survive.
I thought only scorpions would survive. :(
Quote from: Norgy on Today at 01:30:25 PMOh, banks and other cockroaches will survive.
Max 3 years until you have to pay VAT on your cod purchase.
Quote from: Norgy on Today at 01:30:25 PMOh, banks and other cockroaches will survive.
Yeah well they can send collection agencies after my irradiated corpse.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on Today at 01:31:20 PMI thought only scorpions would survive. :(
Cockroaches, scorpions, mole rats, and secret US government genetic engineering experiments will survive.
It's a conundrum. If I was alone I'd, like RH, setup camp near an obvious target and hope for instantaneous death. I have had a good run, why bother trying to scrape through some extra months in the new hellscape.
But with a wife and a toddler, I'd owe it to them to offer what meager survival chances I can. But how? If it's a sudden nuking we'll likely survive the direct strikes but be showered in fallout and I suspect there are WAY more people around the wider M25 circle than food reserves so... IDK. Maybe rather than just sit and wait to die, die while trying hopelessly to track back to one of our families in Eastern Europe, but with all cars EMP-ed we won't get far.
If it's something that has a near-obvious buildup perhaps try and figure out what's the remotest area of Wales and try to time an Airbnb there? :P Maybe fly to my parents' place a prep. Could easily end up just as bad as here but from fallout protection to longer-term survival it's the best bet out of available options.
Grim.
I live downwind an industrial harbour, a powerplant and a fuel storage silo's.
Guess I'll die.
I wasn't just focusing on nuclear annihilations, it's quite possible that not too many nukes are used, enough to destroy government and much military, but leaving large numbers of civilians alive, the one's in American being armed to the teeth; think 21st century 'Sea Peoples'. :ph34r:
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on Today at 12:46:38 PMI screwed up, I was just in Portugal a few days ago, where I would have better chances in the countryside near Bragança than in Paris. :(
I had pinpointed a hamlet, somewhat isolated, where I had some family.
Too late?
Duque, no it's not too late, but hang around any longer and you'll get increasing numbers of European languishite wanting to tag along, if you'll only meet them at the Gare du Nord. :bowler:
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on Today at 02:00:10 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on Today at 01:31:20 PMI thought only scorpions would survive. :(
Cockroaches, scorpions, mole rats, and secret US government genetic engineering experiments will survive.
So there is still hope for deathclaws. :)
Plan BA: I don't plan on surviving the apocalypse.
Plan B: improvise.
I got it covered, all angles.
Quote from: mongers on Today at 03:11:21 PMQuote from: Duque de Bragança on Today at 12:46:38 PMI screwed up, I was just in Portugal a few days ago, where I would have better chances in the countryside near Bragança than in Paris. :(
I had pinpointed a hamlet, somewhat isolated, where I had some family.
Too late?
Duque, no it's not too late, but hang around any longer and you'll get increasing numbers of European languishite wanting to tag along, if you'll only meet them at the Gare du Nord. :bowler:
If the tunnel survives (key infrastructure likely to be targeted), no need for boats. :)
I would not recommend a bike however; might have to do it on foot. :P
I'll survive the first nuclear blasts. I won't escape the fallout, it'll float down the St-Lawrence valley. I expect Montreal to be vaped in the first strike along with Toronto.
During the Cold War, I'm sure they planned strikes against Washington D.C., New York, L.A. etc.
Now, I think they'll target Washington and major Red States.
Anyway. In my physical state, without the modern supply chain, I won't survive long.
So, unless there's a coup in Washington D.C., t'was nice knowing y'all.
I probably won't even notice the flash before I'm gone, so that's good.
I don't think Montreal is getting nuked, the fallout from NYC will be enough.