Which Dystopian World is Most Like The One We've Begun To Live In?
The ones where the world is run by giant tech companies run by psychopaths.
I feel like that's a lot of dystopias.
But there may be a chicken or egg thing. Often think about this Tweet:
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I don't feel like I live in a Dystopian universe. Shit could be a lot worse.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 13, 2025, 10:19:30 PMI don't feel like I live in a Dystopian universe. Shit could be a lot worse.
There are certainly higher stakes...due to things like a greater global connectedness and nuclear weapons...but I kinda agree...the world we live in as common folk is still far better than, say, the 13th-14th century.
It's better than 19th and much of the 20th. There are spots where it is really bad, places like North Korea an parts of Africa, but mostly we are better off. Even Africa is better off than it was in the 20th century. Since the end of the Cold War the trend has been that world is getting richer, fewer people are starving, or being terribly oppressed. What so puzzles me is that so many people want to overthrow the current system. It's not a perfect system, and could be refined, but there has been an upward trend that most of the world has benefited from.
I get what you are saying. I guess I took Mongers' post as asking what dystopian future are we seeming to be progressing towards.
Idiocracy
Quote from: Valmy on February 13, 2025, 11:22:59 PMI get what you are saying. I guess I took Mongers' post as asking what dystopian future are we seeming to be progressing towards.
Yes, and what are we 3-3 weeks into this shit?
Trumps hoping to host a war criminal (as in waging an aggressive war, war of conquest) in the white house.
It's as if FDR lost the 1940 election and instead the republican (Wendel Willkie?, wild guess) is going to invite Adolf Hitler to tea in the oval office in mid-1941.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 13, 2025, 11:38:47 PMIdiocracy
What's quite a good description, but it's too random, most of what's going on is intentional wrecking.
Quote from: Razgovory on February 13, 2025, 11:05:02 PMIt's better than 19th and much of the 20th. There are spots where it is really bad, places like North Korea an parts of Africa, but mostly we are better off. Even Africa is better off than it was in the 20th century. Since the end of the Cold War the trend has been that world is getting richer, fewer people are starving, or being terribly oppressed. What so puzzles me is that so many people want to overthrow the current system. It's not a perfect system, and could be refined, but there has been an upward trend that most of the world has benefited from.
People want to oppress, and think they will be the ones doing the oppressing.
The Marching Morons by Cyril M Kornbluth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons
We are in the early stages of course.
Cyberpunk, with a small chance of Shadowrun.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 13, 2025, 11:38:47 PMIdiocracy
My takeaway from the movie was that we need eugenics because the dumb breed too much. Isn't that what some of those birth obsessives also want, though :unsure:
Idiocracy was dystopia of idiots, but in the end well-intentioned ones - they just couldn't do any better.
Right now, we're going to a place where meanness is cherished and celebrated.
Idiocracy does indeed seem to be it.
With a dash of some techy stuff, though I'm not sure of a good up to date cyberpunk adjacent thing. Cyberpunk doesn't fit the world of today.
Quote from: celedhring on February 14, 2025, 03:31:08 AMCyberpunk, with a small chance of Shadowrun.
If only things were so cool.
Quote from: celedhring on February 14, 2025, 03:31:08 AMCyberpunk, with a small chance of Shadowrun.
If only we had some elves and dwarves running around.
Quote from: Valmy on February 14, 2025, 09:56:14 AMQuote from: celedhring on February 14, 2025, 03:31:08 AMCyberpunk, with a small chance of Shadowrun.
If only we had some elves and dwarves running around.
That's where massive deregulation of biotech comes to help!
Quote from: celedhring on February 14, 2025, 03:31:08 AMCyberpunk, with a small chance of Shadowrun.
I don't think the magic is coming back.
Quote from: Valmy on February 14, 2025, 09:56:14 AMQuote from: celedhring on February 14, 2025, 03:31:08 AMCyberpunk, with a small chance of Shadowrun.
If only we had some elves and dwarves running around.
There's lots of trolls of there, and the orcs are invading Ukraine.
War of the newts.
Probably Fordlandia
Quote from: PDH on February 14, 2025, 01:49:25 PMProbably Fordlandia
Oh that's a good one, what's the new version called, Muskvile (-ville) ?
I think I only heard about it once and I might be confusing it with something Daniel K.Ludwig did?
Combination of Jennifer Government and The Space Merchants.
The Space Merchants
(https://thegreatestbooks.org/books/5814)Jennifer Government (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Government)
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 15, 2025, 07:21:46 AMCombination of Jennifer Government and The Space Merchants.
The Space Merchants
(https://thegreatestbooks.org/books/5814)Jennifer Government (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Government)
Good choices.