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Title: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Oexmelin on August 15, 2023, 06:22:33 PM
Following from the "Syt plays" thread, for those of you who have played table-top RPG, what were your favorite types of campaigns / adventures?

"Monster of the week" ? Expedition to foreign lands? Dungeon crawling? Chosen one, or heroes against the world-ending cataclysm? Social role-play? Grand adventures around the globe? Are your characters "super-heroes" or do they tend to be slightly more competent ordinary folks?

I realize some of the above may be system-dependent, but I would imagine you pick systems to fit your favorite style.

My fantasy campaigns tend to be close to historical medieval Europe, so I tend to favor remaining in a specific locale - a fief, a town, with some occasional distant ventures, usually on some kind of quest motivated by the pursuit of forgotten lore, or by some more "layman" pursuits that pair well with exploration / discovery.

It has remained true in recent years, as my group and I began playing Blades in the Dark, which tends to favor one-time sessions and subgroups (which does well with grown adults with busy lives...). It takes place in a quasi-Victorian city (the designer was heavily influenced by Dishonored, the video game).
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Sophie Scholl on August 15, 2023, 07:15:11 PM
I hate "Chosen One" concepts and overpowered super characters. I much, much prefer slice of life, average ability characters who struggle and are relatable for me as a player. I loathe min-maxing and rules lawyering in others as they are anathema to what I consider good roleplaying. I love world building and adventures that span all manner of things from the totally mundane like delivering mail or helping a village out with building things to dungeon delving, great battles, and diplomatic intrigue. I'm fine with sticking to a small area or going on world/universe spanning adventures. It really depends on what the gm/dm/storyteller wants to pursue as well as the other players. As long as it makes sense to do and it makes sense for the party to pursue it together, I'm game. I like to have an at least somewhat unified purpose in the group and not just, "we're together because we're all rp-ing together but our characters don't make sense together". I'm more into fantasy than sci-fi, but I've partaken in long campaigns of both (Lord of the Rings and Star Wars). I don't mind one-shots or long campaigns, though I prefer long campaigns so I can really invest in my character, the world, and the party. RP is a big reason why I keep playing World of Warcraft. I can engage in fun pick-up rp or pursue guild based campaigns and what not while not being beholden to the nature of finding time, players, a gm, and steady meetings for a ttrpg effort.
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Jacob on August 15, 2023, 07:24:49 PM
I prefer "close to historical" over high fantasy. I really dislike magi-tech that's "let's play a modern super-hero game with modern technology, only it's all powered by elementals and whatnot".

I like building/ domain/ local based games where NPCs will often be reccurrent and established relationships matter. I tend to prefer underdogs and shades of gray as opposed to super-heroes and saving the world.

I should like one-shots (busy family life and all that), but I prefer longer term.

Probably close to my ideal game type would be something like an extended Ars Magica campaign with multiple PCs, but I've never actually played in a game like that so I don't know whether it'd hold true in real life.

All that said, I tend to be more of a DM than a player.
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: The Brain on August 16, 2023, 12:44:52 AM
IIRC I have never played chosen-one stuff in a TTRPG, and I don't like the concept. I prefer that the PCs are basically normal people (though possibly slightly above the average guy since not everyone is cut out for adventuring), I've never cared for super-hero stuff.

I like and have played many different genres (fantasy, horror, sci-fi, historical...), but here I'll talk about fantasy since it's the most common genre. I prefer low magic worlds, and "non-menagerie" worlds when it comes to intelligent races. I remember reading a D&D world module and magic was very common, which to my mind meant that for instance a warehouse cannot just have solid walls and locked doors to keep out thieves, but has to have magic defenses against magic users as well. That style of world doesn't interest me.

I really like campaign play, either long campaign modules or many shorter adventures with the same PCs. I have also played various one-shot RPGs, like Ten Candles and similar, and enjoyed them, they really produce a lot of roleplaying and story in a short time, very efficient.

I like travel. A campaign can have a "base" with long-term relationships etc, but travel from there to various interesting places is nice.
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Syt on August 16, 2023, 01:06:39 AM
The only ever TTRPG I played was Firefly/Serenity with friends which I DMed for them. It was fun, but we mostly kept it low stakes. Usually taking on a job for an employer and getting in a bit over their head. We had a fun session of the transport ship they had booked passage on being boarded and searched by Feds, and while they had plenty to conceal the Feds were actually looking for another person (who was meanwhile trying to frame them to escape arrest). Another time I had them thrown into a penal colony mining for rocks having to make it out. Which led to them having to re-obtain their ship again afterwards which had been stolen by their nemesis (who they had stolen it from in the first place).

Occasionally I hinted at them meddling with things much greater than themselves (Hands of Blue showing up in one session to take away an artifact the players had hunted and racking up a scary bodycount, leaving them behind quite terrified but also intrigued; I was planning to bring this back up but occasionally, but we stopped playing after a year or so.) They had their own little feud with two characters that I had introduced has one-time baddies but where the encounters had been so fun and memorable that I found ways to bring them back every once in a while as recurring characters and foils to their plans.

The game system was quite intuitive, not too stats heavy, and relied more on roleplaying and character traits than intense dice rolling. Combat was fun and fast, and it was quite easy to make adjustments as needed. And of course the premise of the series has players be quite accepting of things sometimes going very wrong (like when one of the guys who was supposed to be a super cool operative and who their employer had considered the brains of the outfit rolled several critical failures during a job, leading to a rather amusing debrief afterwards).
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Solmyr on August 16, 2023, 03:10:18 AM
I like to have some overarching story arc in my campaigns, though not necessarily "save the world". I tend to have trouble getting tied down to one location, so my campaigns often feature plenty of travel. :D
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Syt on August 16, 2023, 03:21:21 AM
That was the beauty of the Firefly setting. You could go to the known big sci-fi city planets, or just create a new frontier settlement on the fly, or anything in between. IIRC one of the books had rules for rolling dice to create colonies with various features/foibles. :D

The advantages of having only 14 episodes, a movie, and some comic books to work from, as opposed to a fully fleshed out universe like Star Trek or Star Wars that's creaking and groaning under the weight of its lore and continuity. :P

Speaking of space TTRPG - HumbleBundle currently has a bunch of Traveller books: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/traveller-mongoose-publishing-books
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Solmyr on August 16, 2023, 01:46:01 PM
My biggest campaigns back in the day were in the Forgotten Realms actually, with its massive amounts of lore. That was the reason why there was a lot of travel, because you could always find something on any place you went to. :D
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: crazy canuck on August 16, 2023, 03:27:47 PM
I liked to create a theme based on an historical time period, and then world build from there, in a low magic environment. When the players know the theme and the historical context, they can better picture what is happening in their own minds, and actively participate in world building. As a GM I tried my best to fit encounters into the context of the world the players had helped build through the decisions they were making.  I really dislike premade worlds and dungeons.

 
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Barrister on August 16, 2023, 03:39:01 PM
So let me be clear - I haven't played a table-top RPG since sometime in the 90s, and most of the ones I played were in the 80s.

So for starters: who didn't start out with a good, old-fashioned dungeon crawl in D&D?  Who didn't have fun doing it.  I know I sure did.  As a kid we wound up playing much more "Basic" D&D as opposed to AD&D.

My favourite though is the only one I never got rid of and still have down in my basement: Traveller.  I think I "played" it far more by creating characters / creating worlds, than I did in actually playing campaigns.  Character creation was always interesting though (is probably far too random) - instead of playing some fresh-faced 18 year old you created a whole backstory, oftentimes being a grizzled vet.  There was a huge backstory to the universe, but since it's jus that - a whole universe, it was never a "chosen one" scenario - you were just some poor schlub up against the universe.

I remember having lots of fun with Steve Jackson's Toon - where you play as animated cartoons.  Not really suited to long campaigns but great fun for a session.

Vampire.  Ah yes.  I played that a few times.  I even LARPed it once (only time I ever did that).  I actually preferred the related game Mage, although it got kind of meta and weird.

Well, those are just a few of my favourites.  But you name a game from that era and I probably played it.  :nerd:


Edit: oh one more: Twillight: 2000.  Fun and games playing in post-apocalyptic wasteland!  It was fun in that the setting was pretty well based in "reality" there was some other game (quick googling: Gamma World) that took a much more fantastical approach.  You were former soldiers trying to survive in the aftermath of WWIII, set obviously in the year 2000.  The setting kind of lost it's appeal after the end of the cold car and as the year 2000 approached.  You had whole sourcebooks just of the different types of NATO and Warsaw Pact weaponry and vehicles you might encounter.
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: mongers on August 16, 2023, 04:43:27 PM
Another 'vote' for traveller, because it seemed 'real'.

Incidentally if you haven't got access to any rule books, there's a facsimile version of the original starter set available for free here:

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/355200?affiliate_id=31065 (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/355200?affiliate_id=31065)
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Barrister on August 16, 2023, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2023, 04:43:27 PMAnother 'vote' for traveller, because it seemed 'real'.

Incidentally if you haven't got access to any rule books, there's a facsimile version of the original starter set available for free here:

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/355200?affiliate_id=31065 (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/355200?affiliate_id=31065)


:hug:

I, of course have access to the rule books.  Hell, I have Traveller, MegaTraveller, Traveller: The New Era, Marc Miller's Traveller (aka T4).  I understand there is a T5 but even I have limits.

:Embarrass:
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: crazy canuck on August 16, 2023, 06:07:16 PM
I loved Traveller.
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Oexmelin on August 16, 2023, 06:27:01 PM
I never had fun with D&D.

I think I mentioned it before, but I encountered RPG differently, mostly because of the availability of French translations. I knew of D&D because of the cartoon and toys, not as a RPG. The RPG I encountered were the Dark Eye (a German RPG) and Dragon Warriors (a British RPG) because both had been translated into French by the same publisher who published most "Choose your own adventure" books. I had a cousin who played the Dark Eye, and we eyed those books each time I walked into the local bookstore, because I found the covers to be amazing. But ultimately, I picked up Dragon Warriors, because that's the one the local library had.

It's realistic conceit (places were transparent analogs to medieval Europe, with just enough "wondrous locations", magic was rare and frightening, clerics were more "Jedi knight/Asian sage" than channels of existing divine powers) ruined D&D for me.

Each time I played, i did not enjoy it. Perhaps because i think I preferred  different sets of clichés ;-) or perhaps, strangely, because the other players were really into "the rules", and I never really was.

I never really was into comics either - and it seemed to me there was some sort of connection between both. Every time I have played D&D, for instance, I have encountered "murder hoboes" - and never in any other sets of rules or settings. Which may simply be bad luck in finding groups.

But I think, as Syt mentioned and Brain alluded to, that the D&D setting isn't terribly well fleshed out as a working, living, breathing society that has drawn the consequences of having so much available magic, and so many power mad people running around, despite having a ton of lore-related material.
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Valmy on August 16, 2023, 06:42:49 PM
I usually GM so it depends on what sort of characters my players are playing. I always make the world darker than the characters so for example in my current 1-on-1 game my son is playing a CN thief so the world is LE and has conspiracies and plots and secrets and things for my son to break and all that.

So I guess most of my games are: the players is struggling against more powerful and more malevolent forces to get whatever they want.

And I do play D&D but I play 2nd Edition (sort of...I play pretty fast and loose with the rules and anything I do like from later editions I just steal...and also most 2nd edition stuff is now online for free so that's nice as well) since I find from 3rd edition onwards the characters are too magical and powerful. I want my players mundane and the forces arrayed against them to seem mysterious and powerful.

But that is just me and it isn't like I have much time to play these days anyway. My poor son is always like "can we play tonight?"

I also have only dabbled in other games.

Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Oexmelin on August 16, 2023, 07:16:08 PM
I encourage you to look at Blades in the Dark - it fits your themes, and is really well suited to short sessions and changing party composition. Characters are thieves, con artists, assassins, plotters and schemers in a corrupt city. The "feedback" system means a lot of the backstory is produced by the players.
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: mongers on August 16, 2023, 07:33:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 16, 2023, 06:42:49 PMI usually GM so it depends on what sort of characters my players are playing. I always make the world darker than the characters so for example in my current 1-on-1 game my son is playing a CN thief so the world is LE and has conspiracies and plots and secrets and things for my son to break and all that.

So I guess most of my games are: the players is struggling against more powerful and more malevolent forces to get whatever they want.

And I do play D&D but I play 2nd Edition (sort of...I play pretty fast and loose with the rules and anything I do like from later editions I just steal...and also most 2nd edition stuff is now online for free so that's nice as well) since I find from 3rd edition onwards the characters are too magical and powerful. I want my players mundane and the forces arrayed against them to seem mysterious and powerful.

But that is just me and it isn't like I have much time to play these days anyway. My poor son is always like "can we play tonight?"

I also have only dabbled in other games.



Oh, pray tell were that can be found?
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Syt on August 17, 2023, 12:33:13 AM
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2023, 04:43:27 PMAnother 'vote' for traveller, because it seemed 'real'.

Incidentally if you haven't got access to any rule books, there's a facsimile version of the original starter set available for free here:

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/355200?affiliate_id=31065 (https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/355200?affiliate_id=31065)


See above link from HumbleBundle, too (yes, it's the "modern" version, but still). :P
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: crazy canuck on August 17, 2023, 09:07:38 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 16, 2023, 06:27:01 PMI never had fun with D&D.

I think I mentioned it before, but I encountered RPG differently, mostly because of the availability of French translations. I knew of D&D because of the cartoon and toys, not as a RPG. The RPG I encountered were the Dark Eye (a German RPG) and Dragon Warriors (a British RPG) because both had been translated into French by the same publisher who published most "Choose your own adventure" books. I had a cousin who played the Dark Eye, and we eyed those books each time I walked into the local bookstore, because I found the covers to be amazing. But ultimately, I picked up Dragon Warriors, because that's the one the local library had.

It's realistic conceit (places were transparent analogs to medieval Europe, with just enough "wondrous locations", magic was rare and frightening, clerics were more "Jedi knight/Asian sage" than channels of existing divine powers) ruined D&D for me.

Each time I played, i did not enjoy it. Perhaps because i think I preferred  different sets of clichés ;-) or perhaps, strangely, because the other players were really into "the rules", and I never really was.

I never really was into comics either - and it seemed to me there was some sort of connection between both. Every time I have played D&D, for instance, I have encountered "murder hoboes" - and never in any other sets of rules or settings. Which may simply be bad luck in finding groups.

But I think, as Syt mentioned and Brain alluded to, that the D&D setting isn't terribly well fleshed out as a working, living, breathing society that has drawn the consequences of having so much available magic, and so many power mad people running around, despite having a ton of lore-related material.


I had the opposite early experience with DND. The DM just gave us character sheets and explained to us what our skills could do. Only the DM had the rules in the DM didn't play by the rules, but was very good at creating narration. The only real contact I had with the rules was I understood What I needed to roll on the dice, but even then a lot of the dice rolls were made by the DM. It was very enjoyable. And that largely impacted how I ran my own games by that point, of course, everybody had their own players handbook and my rule as a DM was nobody was able to pull out any of the rules during a session.
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Valmy on August 19, 2023, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2023, 07:33:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 16, 2023, 06:42:49 PMI usually GM so it depends on what sort of characters my players are playing. I always make the world darker than the characters so for example in my current 1-on-1 game my son is playing a CN thief so the world is LE and has conspiracies and plots and secrets and things for my son to break and all that.

So I guess most of my games are: the players is struggling against more powerful and more malevolent forces to get whatever they want.

And I do play D&D but I play 2nd Edition (sort of...I play pretty fast and loose with the rules and anything I do like from later editions I just steal...and also most 2nd edition stuff is now online for free so that's nice as well) since I find from 3rd edition onwards the characters are too magical and powerful. I want my players mundane and the forces arrayed against them to seem mysterious and powerful.

But that is just me and it isn't like I have much time to play these days anyway. My poor son is always like "can we play tonight?"

I also have only dabbled in other games.



Oh, pray tell were that can be found?

Well first you can download the entire core rules of AD&D 2nd Edition right here: https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/156530/For-Gold--Glory

Yeah it is a 3rd party OSR book but it is the 2nd Edition rules, at least the base ones from 1989. So use that if you don't have old books.

And lots of 2nd edition stuff can be had for free or very little at drivethrurpg but generally if it is really old you can just google it and download a pdf of it from someplace pretty quick.

Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: mongers on August 19, 2023, 11:18:40 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 19, 2023, 05:21:59 PM
Quote from: mongers on August 16, 2023, 07:33:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 16, 2023, 06:42:49 PMI usually GM so it depends on what sort of characters my players are playing. I always make the world darker than the characters so for example in my current 1-on-1 game my son is playing a CN thief so the world is LE and has conspiracies and plots and secrets and things for my son to break and all that.

So I guess most of my games are: the players is struggling against more powerful and more malevolent forces to get whatever they want.

And I do play D&D but I play 2nd Edition (sort of...I play pretty fast and loose with the rules and anything I do like from later editions I just steal...and also most 2nd edition stuff is now online for free so that's nice as well) since I find from 3rd edition onwards the characters are too magical and powerful. I want my players mundane and the forces arrayed against them to seem mysterious and powerful.

But that is just me and it isn't like I have much time to play these days anyway. My poor son is always like "can we play tonight?"

I also have only dabbled in other games.



Oh, pray tell were that can be found?

Well first you can download the entire core rules of AD&D 2nd Edition right here: https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/156530/For-Gold--Glory

Yeah it is a 3rd party OSR book but it is the 2nd Edition rules, at least the base ones from 1989. So use that if you don't have old books.

And lots of 2nd edition stuff can be had for free or very little at drivethrurpg but generally if it is really old you can just google it and download a pdf of it from someplace pretty quick.



oh thanks for that Valmy, I'll give it a spin. :cheers:
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: Savonarola on August 22, 2023, 04:03:12 PM
I prefer an over-arching story line, interesting setting and characters who are invested in the story.  The genre doesn't matter so much to me, one of the best campaigns we did was Call of Cthulhu (:cthulu:) set in 1930s Detroit, but I've had a lot of fun with Cyberpunk, Medieval Japan, Star Wars, The Crusades, Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones world and high fantasy.  The game system is also not that important, so long as it isn't too bogged down in the rules.  GURPS is probably the most infamous in that regard; although it does allow for exotic storylines.  I thought the Fourth Edition of AD&D was poorly done as combat dragged on forever (although it did fix the class-balance issues that had been problematic in earlier editions.)
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: 11B4V on August 27, 2023, 11:32:02 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 16, 2023, 07:16:08 PMI encourage you to look at Blades in the Dark - it fits your themes, and is really well suited to short sessions and changing party composition. Characters are thieves, con artists, assassins, plotters and schemers in a corrupt city. The "feedback" system means a lot of the backstory is produced by the players.

Yup
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: mongers on August 28, 2023, 06:03:20 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 27, 2023, 11:32:02 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 16, 2023, 07:16:08 PMI encourage you to look at Blades in the Dark - it fits your themes, and is really well suited to short sessions and changing party composition. Characters are thieves, con artists, assassins, plotters and schemers in a corrupt city. The "feedback" system means a lot of the backstory is produced by the players.

Yup

Hello 11B4V, long time no see, how are you doing?
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: 11B4V on September 18, 2023, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: mongers on August 28, 2023, 06:03:20 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 27, 2023, 11:32:02 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 16, 2023, 07:16:08 PMI encourage you to look at Blades in the Dark - it fits your themes, and is really well suited to short sessions and changing party composition. Characters are thieves, con artists, assassins, plotters and schemers in a corrupt city. The "feedback" system means a lot of the backstory is produced by the players.

Yup

Hello 11B4V, long time no see, how are you doing?

Good, just busy. I pass through lurking though.
Title: Re: TTRPG : Your Favorite Style of Campaigns / Sessions
Post by: mongers on September 18, 2023, 10:06:25 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on September 18, 2023, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: mongers on August 28, 2023, 06:03:20 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on August 27, 2023, 11:32:02 PM
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 16, 2023, 07:16:08 PMI encourage you to look at Blades in the Dark - it fits your themes, and is really well suited to short sessions and changing party composition. Characters are thieves, con artists, assassins, plotters and schemers in a corrupt city. The "feedback" system means a lot of the backstory is produced by the players.


Yup

Hello 11B4V, long time no see, how are you doing?

Good, just busy. I pass through lurking though.

:cool:

Sensible, I should probably follow your example instead of me spamming the forum.  :)