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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Sheilbh on February 24, 2023, 04:13:31 PM

Poll
Question: Do you want TV/films with the subtitles?
Option 1: Yes votes: 10
Option 2: No votes: 7
Title: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Sheilbh on February 24, 2023, 04:13:31 PM
Prompted by this:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpvfOECWAAEATFW?format=jpg&name=small)

I do - and always have. Pleased to discover it's just because I'm in touch with the youth (rather than, say, needing a hearing aid massively prematurely) :ph34r: :goodboy:

I feel like it might be proxy for how likely are you to look at your phone? :hmm:

Edit: Typo :weep:
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Barrister on February 24, 2023, 04:20:40 PM
Subtitles on English shows bug me.  I invariably wind up focusing on the letters, not the picture.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: garbon on February 24, 2023, 04:25:57 PM
Yes, always. Though need for them has been less since I got a soundbar.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Zanza on February 24, 2023, 04:39:04 PM
No.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Josquius on February 24, 2023, 04:46:14 PM
Living with a non native speaker mandates it and has led to me sort of becoming reliant on it.
Which is sad as it fucks up the timing on jokes.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Barrister on February 24, 2023, 05:02:22 PM
Quote from: Josquius on February 24, 2023, 04:46:14 PMLiving with a non native speaker mandates it and has led to me sort of becoming reliant on it.
Which is sad as it fucks up the timing on jokes.

What is even more annoying is turning the tv on and realizing someone <_< has turned on Japanese subtitles.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Jacob on February 24, 2023, 05:04:25 PM
We generally have them on in our house for a variety of reasons. If I'm watching something by myself I usually leave them off though.

I grew up watching all English language media subtitled, so it's not a stretch or an annoyance for me in any way - even if the subtitles now are in English too.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 24, 2023, 06:31:31 PM
Generally on, because I'm hard of heariing.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Grey Fox on February 24, 2023, 07:00:52 PM
Yes, even tho I'm like 30 years younger than Old man Yi there I am also hard of hearing.

I can usually avoid it with shows in Quebec french tho.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on February 24, 2023, 07:03:40 PM
I usually do because some shows are hard to hear. Also it's easier to just loosely pay attention when subtitles are on.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: HVC on February 24, 2023, 07:24:46 PM
Depends when the show/movie was produced. Newer ones are sometime mixed with really low dialogue.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Valmy on February 24, 2023, 08:02:40 PM
Almost everything I watch on TV is sports so I don't use subtitles
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on February 24, 2023, 08:54:53 PM
Yes.  Hollywood seems to be playing to people who have their own IMAX in their living rooms.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: celedhring on February 25, 2023, 03:35:43 AM
No, I don't use subtitles for Spanish language stuff. I only turn them on in English if the sound mix is very naturalistic or it's an accent/slang I'm not used to. I find the letters on the screen to be distracting so I try to turn them on only if I really need them.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Maladict on February 25, 2023, 08:01:29 AM
No. But I increasingly do for English language media.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: mongers on February 25, 2023, 08:32:29 AM
Given the near dominance of naturalistic NA originated sound balance vs the old fashioned British theatrical way of recording film dialogue, I'd say nearly all the time now.

Award winning 'mumbled' performances don't help, what with me being somewhat deaf.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: The Brain on February 27, 2023, 10:22:16 AM
Normally off, unless I'm half-watching while doing something else like listening to music.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: crazy canuck on February 27, 2023, 12:08:19 PM
Normally off, but lately I am having trouble with American made movies, and particularly those with strong drawling accents.  For those subtitles go on.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Josquius on February 27, 2023, 12:29:45 PM
I wonder if there could be a case for a law suit against hollywood on accessibility grounds.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Duque de Bragança on February 27, 2023, 01:17:49 PM
Not in French or in Portuguese, unless the sound mix makes it difficult to understand the dialog.

I do put French subtitles on a French track, to compare the translation of say, the Japanese track, to the translation of the French track itself.

English/French/whatever language I am familiar with subtitles if the English accent is too thick, as well.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 27, 2023, 01:37:57 PM
The Long Good Friday (Cockney gangster movie) was released in the US with subtitles.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Savonarola on February 27, 2023, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 27, 2023, 01:37:57 PMThe Long Good Friday (Cockney gangster movie) was released in the US with subtitles.

So was "The Harder they Come" (Jamaican movie with a killer soundtrack.)  Originally United Artists wanted to dub the Beatles for the US release of Hard Day's Night due to their Liverpudlian accents ( :lol: :bleeding:).
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: jimmy olsen on February 28, 2023, 07:24:22 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 24, 2023, 08:54:53 PMYes.  Hollywood seems to be playing to people who have their own IMAX in their living rooms.

Here's a great article on why sound mixing is so awful these days

https://www.slashfilm.com/673162/heres-why-movie-dialogue-has-gotten-more-difficult-to-understand-and-three-ways-to-fix-it/
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on February 28, 2023, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 28, 2023, 07:24:22 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 24, 2023, 08:54:53 PMYes.  Hollywood seems to be playing to people who have their own IMAX in their living rooms.

Here's a great article on why sound mixing is so awful these days

https://www.slashfilm.com/673162/heres-why-movie-dialogue-has-gotten-more-difficult-to-understand-and-three-ways-to-fix-it/
I saw a quote by I think Snyder complaining about people saying they can't hear things, like they don't have appreciation for his 'art'.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 28, 2023, 08:43:55 PM
Dead on about Tom Hardy.
Title: Re: Do you have the subtitles on?
Post by: viper37 on February 28, 2023, 11:47:15 PM
No subtitles in French or English.  But I have hearing aids.
My parents use subtitles. My dad does not want to recognize he needs hearing aids.  His girlfriend does, but she can't afford hearing aids for both ears right now and the government only pays for one for retired/elderly people.