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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Jacob on May 03, 2022, 04:11:24 PM

Title: The Russia Thread
Post by: Jacob on May 03, 2022, 04:11:24 PM
So apparently Russia is pulling out of co-operating on the International Space Station. Makes sense I guess.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: The Brain on May 03, 2022, 04:12:27 PM
Good.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Josquius on May 03, 2022, 04:13:22 PM
So what does that mean?
There's alternatives to soyuz now luckily, nonetheless a lot of that station is Russian, can they shut down the station?
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 03, 2022, 04:14:50 PM
Not enough dogs to abandon in orbit, I guess.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 03, 2022, 04:18:21 PM
The ISS was specifically designed to require both US and Russian components, exactly to prevent this kind of "go it alone" move.

That being said, Dmitri Rogozin (head of Russia's space agency) is full of bluster.  He makes all kinds of threats, and yet Russian and NASA continue to co-operate.  I've seen no news reports that definitely say that Russia is pulling out.

The most important Russian component is the thrusters - they have to fire every once in a while in order to keep the station in orbit.  Russia is required to give 1 year's notice of any pullout, and presumably NASA to jury-rig something to fly up there to keep it in orbit in that time now that they have easy rocket access through SpaceX.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Jacob on May 03, 2022, 04:44:34 PM
I don't know if this is definite enough by your metric. Maybe it is still bluster, I don't know: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-30/russia-will-quit-international-space-station-over-sanctions

QuoteRussia Will Quit International Space Station Over Sanctions
Russia space agency head says partners to get 12 months notice
Agency had earlier this month threated to end ISS missions

Bloomberg News
April 30, 2022, 3:59 AM PDT

The head of Russia's space program said Moscow will pull out of the International Space Station, state media reported, a move it has blamed on sanctions imposed over the invasion of Ukraine.

"The decision has been taken already, we're not obliged to talk about it publicly," Tass and RIA Novosti reported Roscosmos General Director Dmitry Rogozin as saying in an interview with state TV on Saturday. "I can say this only -- in accordance with our obligations, we'll inform our partners about the end of our work on the ISS with a year's notice."

Rogozin earlier this month threatened to end Russia's mission unless the U.S., European Union and Canada lifted sanctions against enterprises involved in the Russian space industry.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Barrister on May 03, 2022, 05:00:00 PM
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3475817-nasa-chief-denies-reports-russia-is-exiting-international-space-station/

Dated today.

I'm not saying it won't happen, but it isn't happening yet.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Jacob on May 03, 2022, 05:13:23 PM
Russian government officials are so fucking unreliable  :bleeding:
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 03, 2022, 06:57:55 PM
No orcs in space.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: grumbler on May 03, 2022, 07:01:41 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 03, 2022, 06:57:55 PMNo orcs in space.

https://www.iflscience.com/space/new-images-reveal-mysteries-of-ghostly-orcs-in-space/

Just ghost orcs.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: 11B4V on May 03, 2022, 07:06:31 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: grumbler on May 03, 2022, 07:08:12 PM
 :P   You can find anything on the internet.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Razgovory on May 03, 2022, 07:50:45 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 03, 2022, 06:57:55 PMNo orcs in space.
Space orcs are called "scro".
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Solmyr on May 04, 2022, 02:36:41 AM
Or "Orks".
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on May 04, 2022, 06:31:03 AM
Quote from: 11B4V on May 03, 2022, 06:57:55 PMNo orcs in space.

and if they're grimdark?
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: The Larch on May 06, 2022, 05:41:37 PM
Moscow Patriarch gets his fancy watch erased from an official picture, but the reflection at the table stays in:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSFsV34WQAAPv-6?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: HVC on May 06, 2022, 05:46:10 PM
A corrupt religious figure? Why I never!?!
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: grumbler on May 06, 2022, 07:00:56 PM
Inept Russian photoshopping?  Unpossible!
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: DGuller on May 07, 2022, 12:59:32 AM
Is he really a religious figure?  It would be hard for a non-atheist to rise up through the ranks of KGB.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Josquius on May 07, 2022, 01:39:06 AM
This piece on how Russias economy is adapting and surviving seemed interesting but its paywalled.

Anyone got the key? :p

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/05/07/russias-economy-is-back-on-its-feet
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Jacob on May 07, 2022, 10:27:16 AM
Here's a response to it on twitter: https://twitter.com/samagreene/status/1522751751681904640

You may be able to infer much of the content of the actual article from it.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Jacob on May 07, 2022, 02:27:53 PM
Russian media closely aligned with Putin's regime moot the idea of moving to "military socialism": https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1522993211513663489
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: grumbler on May 07, 2022, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 07, 2022, 10:27:16 AMHere's a response to it on twitter: https://twitter.com/samagreene/status/1522751751681904640

You may be able to infer much of the content of the actual article from it.

Actually, you can directly link to that article from Sam's first tweet.

I agree with Sam Greene that the Economist article is the equivalent of hearing the man who fell off your skyscraper passing your tenth story window and saying "so far, so good."
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: viper37 on May 07, 2022, 10:09:59 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 07, 2022, 10:27:16 AMHere's a response to it on twitter: https://twitter.com/samagreene/status/1522751751681904640

You may be able to infer much of the content of the actual article from it.
Since Kazakhstan and Belarus currencies are being hit hard, I wonder if we'll soon hear talks of monetary union.  And I wonder in such case, how it would affect the Russian ruble...

Yi?  Minsky?
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Jacob on May 08, 2022, 05:53:39 PM
Still early - so possible it's misinformation - but seeing notices of general mobilization in Russia on social media: https://twitter.com/OSINT88/status/1523425112766443520
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Josquius on May 08, 2022, 10:50:50 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 08, 2022, 05:53:39 PMStill early - so possible it's misinformation - but seeing notices of general mobilization in Russia on social media: https://twitter.com/OSINT88/status/1523425112766443520

Scrolling down the replies one caught my eye - it apparently says suggest rather than mandate. The theory is its a recruitment scam.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: Jacob on May 09, 2022, 10:15:07 AM
Quote from: Josquius on May 08, 2022, 10:50:50 PM
Quote from: Jacob on May 08, 2022, 05:53:39 PMStill early - so possible it's misinformation - but seeing notices of general mobilization in Russia on social media: https://twitter.com/OSINT88/status/1523425112766443520

Scrolling down the replies one caught my eye - it apparently says suggest rather than mandate. The theory is its a recruitment scam.

Heh. I guess that makes sense too.
Title: Re: The Russia Thread
Post by: viper37 on May 09, 2022, 08:10:22 PM
It looks suspicious, like the "1" is written over by a "2" for 2022.  It is also partly written by hand, why not a fully computer generated letter?