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Title: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Savonarola on July 14, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
Saw this article (https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/14/health/words-creativity-test-scn-wellness/index.html) on CNN and while I'm skeptical of the ability for an online test to measure creativity; it is still a fun puzzle:

Test here. (https://www.datcreativity.com/task)

I got 92.25.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: grumbler on July 14, 2021, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 14, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
Saw this article (https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/14/health/words-creativity-test-scn-wellness/index.html) on CNN and while I'm skeptical of the ability for an online test to measure creativity; it is still a fun puzzle:

Test here. (https://www.datcreativity.com/task)

I got 92.25.

I think that it is a trick-question sort of test.  Nouns are all different from one another, but none are more different.  The objects that they describe may be more or less different than another object being described by the noun, or the numbers and specifics of the letters making up the word may be different, but the words themselves aren't "more different." Which is "more different" from yarn:  barn, or thread?
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Barrister on July 14, 2021, 02:34:47 PM
Interesting.  Surprisingly hard to think of words that are different from each other.

I got 84.85, which is higher that 84.75% of people who took the test.  Apparently.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Habbaku on July 14, 2021, 02:35:29 PM
91.02, but I don't care enough to dig into why the words I chose are truly different from one-another.  :D

Seems like a lot of randomness could go into this? I didn't try to think that hard on my choices.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Barrister on July 14, 2021, 02:37:37 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 14, 2021, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 14, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
Saw this article (https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/14/health/words-creativity-test-scn-wellness/index.html) on CNN and while I'm skeptical of the ability for an online test to measure creativity; it is still a fun puzzle:

Test here. (https://www.datcreativity.com/task)

I got 92.25.

I think that it is a trick-question sort of test.  Nouns are all different from one another, but none are more different.  The objects that they describe may be more or less different than another object being described by the noun, or the numbers and specifics of the letters making up the word may be different, but the words themselves aren't "more different." Which is "more different" from yarn:  barn, or thread?

I don't know that it's a "trick" question.  They even link to an academic article explaining the test.

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/25/e2022340118

Whether this is testing anything meaningful is a different question.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: grumbler on July 14, 2021, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 14, 2021, 02:37:37 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 14, 2021, 02:32:24 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on July 14, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
Saw this article (https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/14/health/words-creativity-test-scn-wellness/index.html) on CNN and while I'm skeptical of the ability for an online test to measure creativity; it is still a fun puzzle:

Test here. (https://www.datcreativity.com/task)

I got 92.25.

I think that it is a trick-question sort of test.  Nouns are all different from one another, but none are more different.  The objects that they describe may be more or less different than another object being described by the noun, or the numbers and specifics of the letters making up the word may be different, but the words themselves aren't "more different." Which is "more different" from yarn:  barn, or thread?

I don't know that it's a "trick" question.  They even link to an academic article explaining the test.

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/25/e2022340118

Whether this is testing anything meaningful is a different question.

I looked at the academic paper, and it's clear from their examples that they are referring to objects as unrelated as possible, not words that are as unrelated as possible.  Thus, English and Chinese words which both mean "dog" are very close in this test, even though the words are in completely different languages and writing systems and thus the words themselves very far apart.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: crazy canuck on July 14, 2021, 02:47:21 PM
Apparently Feminism and War are very similar.  So that tanked my score.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: garbon on July 14, 2021, 02:55:00 PM
My score changed just by changing order of the words I typed in given it only uses the first 7 words...
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Maladict on July 14, 2021, 03:10:17 PM
Yeah, it's probably easier to just enter seven words. I managed 97.24 on my third attempt (doesn't count, I know :sleep:)
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: The Brain on July 14, 2021, 03:10:26 PM
Does the test rate "love" and "hate" as very close or very far apart?
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: alfred russel on July 14, 2021, 03:15:41 PM
73, so I'm the least creative person here. :(
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: The Brain on July 14, 2021, 03:18:04 PM
Unlike the sheeple here I'm so creative that I didn't take the test. There's no box big enough that I cannot find the outside of it.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 14, 2021, 03:34:37 PM
Afraid it will tell you that you're ordinary, eh?
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: The Brain on July 14, 2021, 03:38:44 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 14, 2021, 03:34:37 PM
Afraid it will tell you that you're ordinary, eh?

I've never considered myself very creative. God created for us, and that is enough.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: The Brain on July 14, 2021, 03:39:55 PM
OTOH I did win a limerick contest at uni. :hmm:
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Jacob on July 14, 2021, 03:43:55 PM
"Crowdsourcing this simple word test will help us with our research project," scientists say.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Tonitrus on July 14, 2021, 04:08:39 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on July 14, 2021, 03:15:41 PM
73, so I'm the least creative person here. :(

I was down in the 60's. 

Creativity is overrated anyways.  :P
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Agelastus on July 14, 2021, 04:51:55 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on July 14, 2021, 04:08:39 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on July 14, 2021, 03:15:41 PM
73, so I'm the least creative person here. :(

I was down in the 60's. 

Creativity is overrated anyways.  :P

77.3 which is apparently better than 45.83% of the people who completed the task and near to the middle of the majority of scores for people taking the test.

Middlingly creative, apparently - which is not something I've ever noticed about myself (I've always considered myself to have poor creativity.)
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: DGuller on July 14, 2021, 04:54:10 PM
I don't see any issues with the test.  To me it seems closely related to the data science concept of principal components, or more generally autoencoders, which can be very useful in some applications.  I was thinking of the test as finding 10 words that collectively could cover as many things or concepts as is possible to cover with just 10 words.  An English word for a dog and a Chinese word for a dog both still leave you only able to communicate about dogs.  If your second word was a satellite, then at least you can discuss both dogs and space, which are generally pretty orthogonal concepts (except in 1957).
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: PDH on July 14, 2021, 05:02:33 PM
It said 9/10 of mine were misspelled, just because they were bones, anthropological terms, or paleolithic fish.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Josquius on July 14, 2021, 05:26:32 PM
89.62 apparently.
Yeah I don't get it.
Though I learned nouns can mean concepts.
Odd that randomness means creativity.

Maybe the true test is is rather more abstract. Looking at how people read into these scores. How liable different demographics are to complain when told they have zero creativity.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: DGuller on July 14, 2021, 05:43:29 PM
Creativity is useful lack of predictability, not just any lack of predictability.  Perfect noise is unpredictable, but it's also useless.  Creative concepts give something new which can't be inferred from what is currently known, and they also help you achieve something which you couldn't achieve with your prior level of knowledge.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Berkut on July 14, 2021, 05:45:02 PM
73, crushed it
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 14, 2021, 08:35:37 PM
93.85
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 14, 2021, 09:07:31 PM
My lowest pair, at 65, were "poker" and "encyclopedia," which I found kind of odd.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Solmyr on July 15, 2021, 04:31:36 AM
I got 86.24. Closest word pair was "filibuster" and "monstrosity", at 74. :D
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Josquius on July 15, 2021, 06:05:05 AM
Quote from: DGuller on July 14, 2021, 05:43:29 PM
Creativity is useful lack of predictability, not just any lack of predictability.  Perfect noise is unpredictable, but it's also useless.  Creative concepts give something new which can't be inferred from what is currently known, and they also help you achieve something which you couldn't achieve with your prior level of knowledge.
Yeah, surely a better link would be the chain in the words having something to do with each other?
Is someone creative because they randomly jump from talking about beetles to political philosophies, or because they can think of effective and novel ways to describe those beetles?
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Savonarola on July 15, 2021, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: Tyr on July 15, 2021, 06:05:05 AM
Yeah, surely a better link would be the chain in the words having something to do with each other?
Is someone creative because they randomly jump from talking about beetles to political philosophies, or because they can think of effective and novel ways to describe those beetles?

The linked article covers that topic.  This test measures divergent thinking, what you're describing is convergent thinking which has a different type of test (the Bridge-the-Associative-Gap Task according to the article.)
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: celedhring on July 15, 2021, 10:19:18 AM
84,95

"Grass" and "bottle" was my lowest score component with 66%. Apparently this test doesn't approve of littering.
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: mongers on July 15, 2021, 05:29:37 PM
10.703  :hmm:
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 15, 2021, 06:03:56 PM
Impossible. I got a 50 and it was higher than 0%.

My list: cat dog hamster gerbil rat snake bird  :P
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Tonitrus on July 16, 2021, 06:31:19 AM
I wonder if this test format doesn't account for simple lazy word choice. :hmm:
Title: Re: This simple word test reveals how creative you are, scientists say
Post by: Caliga on July 16, 2021, 12:16:48 PM
92.22