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Title: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: Syt on June 02, 2021, 11:27:25 AM
https://lawandcrime.com/crime/14-year-old-girl-and-12-year-old-boy-with-severe-diabetes-used-shotgun-and-ak-47-in-bonnie-and-clyde-type-shootout-with-deputies-sheriff/

Quote14-Year-Old Girl and 12-Year-Old Boy with 'Severe' Diabetes Used Shotgun and AK-47 in 'Bonnie and Clyde' Type Shootout with Deputies: Sheriff

A 14-year-old girl and 12-year-old boy opened fire on deputies in lengthy encounter, and authorities only fired back at the girl as a last resort, said Volusia County Sheriff Mike Chitwood.

"I don't know where we get the men and women who respond to these incidents, who do what they do, and do it with bravery, do it with courage, and do it while trying to protect the sanctity of human life," Chitwood said during a heated press conference in which he criticized the state juvenile justice system, lawmakers, and calls to "defund" police. "But [law enforcement] took rounds – multiple, multiple rounds – until they were left with no other choice but to return fire."

The incident began around 5 p.m. on Tuesday, Chitwood said, citing radio transmissions, computer dispatch calls, and supervisors at the scene. A 12-year-old, who was a "severe diabetic" that had to have insulin every four hours, ran away with a 14-year-old girl, he said.

The 14-year-old was in the system on account of a larceny conviction for stealing puppies, Chitwood said. She burned down a halfway house on April 10, he said. Both of the runaways had been staying at Florida United Methodist Children's Home at the time of Tuesday's incident, Chitwood said.

Deputies in the Daytona area looked for them. This was already considered an urgent situation because of the boy's medical condition, but the children ran away every time authorities encountered them, Chitwood said.

The situation began to escalate later on. A passerby waved down deputies, reporting hearing broken glass at a home. Deputies saw evidence of forced entry. Authorities made contact with the homeowner, asking if anyone should have access to the residence. The sheriff said the homeowner, who left just 15 minutes before, said no one should be at the residence but noted that there were three guns: a AK-47, a pump shotgun, and handgun, plus 200 rounds of ammunition.

The girl had the shotgun, according the sheriff. The boy had the AK-47. There were four points between 8:28 p.m. and 8:54 p.m. in which shots on deputies were reported. At 8:40 p.m., the girl emerged from the property and threatened to kill a sergeant. The duo opened fire from different angles: a pool deck, bedroom window and from the garage door, Chitwood said. Deputies threw in a cell phone during the encounter in an attempt to negotiate.

Finally, the girl stepped out of the garage, pointed the shotgun at deputies, walked back into the garbage despite warnings to drop the firearm, then stepped out a second time, Chitwood said. That's when authorities opened fire, he said. Authorities said the teen sustained wounds to her chest, arm, and abdomen, but she survived and is in stable condition. The 12-year-old soon surrendered.

Authorities had no cover except for trees and vehicles; the duo tried to take the lives of eight deputies, but no law enforcement officers were injured, Chitwood said. As for the home, it was trashed. The girl had taken a baseball bat to furniture, toilets, and tub.

It is unclear how many shots the 14-year-old and 12-year-old allegedly fired. One of the AK-47 banana clips was emptied, said Chitwood. They were like "Bonnie and Clyde," he added.

The alleged motive behind the juveniles' actions is unclear. Deputies named them as Travis O'Brien, 12, and Nicole Jackson, 14. Authorities in Florida are allowed to release certain juvenile records, including a defendant's name and photograph, if the crime the juvenile is suspected of committing would be a felony if it was alleged to have been committed by an adult. With that said, charges are pending. It is unclear if the two have attorneys.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating the shooting at the request of the Volusia County Sheriff's Office, FDLE public information officer Dana Kelly told Law&Crime. The FDLE will be conducting interviews, gathering evidence, and constructing a timeline of events on Wednesday, Kelly added.

Florida. Is there nothing that the state and its inhabitants can't do?
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: The Brain on June 02, 2021, 11:41:49 AM
Quotesaid no one should be at the residence but noted that there were three guns: a AK-47, a pump shotgun, and handgun, plus 200 rounds of ammunition.

Were they stored in a way that is legal in Florida?
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: Habbaku on June 02, 2021, 11:55:01 AM
Wow, 200 whole rounds and "AK-47 banana clips".
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: fromtia on June 02, 2021, 12:11:27 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 02, 2021, 11:41:49 AM

Were they stored in a way that is legal in Florida?

What is this "legal in Florida" concept you are entertaining? There are only suggestions here.
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: The Brain on June 02, 2021, 12:12:37 PM
Quote from: fromtia on June 02, 2021, 12:11:27 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 02, 2021, 11:41:49 AM

Were they stored in a way that is legal in Florida?

What is this "legal in Florida" concept you are entertaining? There are only suggestions here.

I take that as a yes.
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: DGuller on June 02, 2021, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 02, 2021, 11:55:01 AM
Wow, 200 whole rounds and "AK-47 banana clips".
Banana magazines.  :mad:
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: grumbler on June 02, 2021, 09:09:14 PM
Commie rifles with commie magazines.  This guy is no patriot.
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: 11B4V on June 03, 2021, 01:39:07 AM
Quote from: DGuller on June 02, 2021, 01:05:46 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 02, 2021, 11:55:01 AM
Wow, 200 whole rounds and "AK-47 banana clips".
Banana magazines.  :mad:

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 03, 2021, 12:03:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqu4mEYjLWg

Footage of the boy's virtual hearing with the judge (the boy looks even younger than 12) plus some body cam footage of the shootout.
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: 11B4V on June 03, 2021, 05:56:07 PM
'Merica...
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 03, 2021, 06:17:14 PM
Removed.
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: saskganesh on June 03, 2021, 08:09:59 PM
I am confused. This is all because of stolen puppies?
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on June 04, 2021, 06:35:05 AM
Quote from: The Brain on June 02, 2021, 11:41:49 AM
Quotesaid no one should be at the residence but noted that there were three guns: a AK-47, a pump shotgun, and handgun, plus 200 rounds of ammunition.

Were they stored in a way that is legal in Florida?
A pile near the door next to the jug of liquor? Probably.
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: Savonarola on June 04, 2021, 01:30:57 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 03, 2021, 12:03:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqu4mEYjLWg

Footage of the boy's virtual hearing with the judge (the boy looks even younger than 12) plus some body cam footage of the shootout.

Did they show his face?

This is a local news story here; (Volusia county is the county to the north of me and is also in the Orlando television market).  Due to the boy being a juvenile they had to blur out his face.

(And in the GREATEST STATE EVER! files:  This was also the first story on NBC nightly news last night; followed by the ongoing problems of Congressman Matt Gaetz.   (Fortunately Gaetz isn't local news here, his district is way out in the panhandle.))
Title: Re: 14-Year-Old Girl, 12-Year-Old Boy use Shotgun and AK-47 in shootout with cops
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 04, 2021, 03:34:37 PM
They showed his face.