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Title: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: Syt on March 31, 2021, 01:49:18 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56585169

QuoteWatergate mastermind G Gordon Liddy dies aged 90

G Gordon Liddy, one of the masterminds of the Watergate burglary who became a radio show host after his release from prison, has died at the age of 90.

His son, Thomas Liddy, confirmed his father's death and said only that it was not Covid-19-related, US media say.

Liddy remained unapologetic for his part in the plan to bug the Democrats' HQ at the Watergate building during the Republicans' 1972 re-election campaign.

The scandal led to the resignation of then President Richard Nixon.

Born George Gordon Battle Liddy in New Jersey in 1930, he is said to have been a frail boy who was inspired by the rousing radio speeches of Adolf Hitler that residents in his German American neighbourhood were listening to at the time.

"If an entire nation could be changed, lifted out of weakness to extraordinary strength, so could one person," he wrote in his autobiography Will, recalling how he roasted and ate a rat at the age of 11 in order to overcome his fear of rodents.

Having served in the army and graduated from law school, Liddy joined the FBI and eventually moved to the White House to help with Richard Nixon's re-election campaign.

Some of the extreme ideas he, and colleague Howard Hunt, a former CIA officer, came up with - from plotting to kill Nixon critics to kidnapping anti-war protesters - never got the go-ahead, but their plan to bug the Democratic National Committee offices did.

But the botched burglary, cover-up, and subsequent investigation snowballed into one of America's biggest political scandal.

Liddy, Hunt and five others were arrested and faced charges of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping. Liddy was the only one who refused to cooperate with the prosecution. He was sentenced to 20 years and served nearly five years before his sentence was commuted in 1977 by Democratic President Jimmy Carter.

Years later, Liddy said: "I'd do it again for my president." He drove a Rolls Royce with the numberplate H20GATE.

After his release from prison, he started a security firm, wrote best-selling books and became a popular and provocative conservative talk show host.
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: The Brain on March 31, 2021, 01:53:56 AM
It was a more innocent time. :wistful:
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 31, 2021, 02:37:38 AM
H20GATE... That 0 should be O. Did Liddy fuck up or the journalist?
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: Syt on March 31, 2021, 02:40:40 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on March 31, 2021, 02:37:38 AM
H20GATE... That 0 should be O. Did Liddy fuck up or the journalist?

Does anyone care?
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: DGuller on March 31, 2021, 02:44:09 AM
It's hard for a Soviet-born person to understand America's lack of resolve at punishing its political criminals.
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: Eddie Teach on March 31, 2021, 04:57:58 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 31, 2021, 02:40:40 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on March 31, 2021, 02:37:38 AM
H20GATE... That 0 should be O. Did Liddy fuck up or the journalist?

Does anyone care?

That was kinda my reaction to the thread.  :P
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: Syt on March 31, 2021, 05:27:15 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on March 31, 2021, 04:57:58 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 31, 2021, 02:40:40 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on March 31, 2021, 02:37:38 AM
H20GATE... That 0 should be O. Did Liddy fuck up or the journalist?

Does anyone care?

That was kinda my reaction to the thread.  :P

:P
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: grumbler on March 31, 2021, 06:57:10 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on March 31, 2021, 02:37:38 AM
H20GATE... That 0 should be O. Did Liddy fuck up or the journalist?

If you care, I looked up his car image and it is, indeed, H20GATE.  I  guess is that H2OGATE was already taken in Maryland.
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: Valmy on April 01, 2021, 07:42:30 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 31, 2021, 02:44:09 AM
It's hard for a Soviet-born person to understand America's lack of resolve at punishing its political criminals.

Hey at least he actually spent some time in prison.
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: DGuller on April 01, 2021, 07:56:16 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 01, 2021, 07:42:30 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 31, 2021, 02:44:09 AM
It's hard for a Soviet-born person to understand America's lack of resolve at punishing its political criminals.

Hey at least he actually spent some time in prison.
Yeah, a couple of years for a guy who was obviously morally prepared to form death squads if he could get away with it, before his sentence was commuted by Carter of all people.
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: mongers on April 01, 2021, 12:32:04 PM
What a CREEP.
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: Valmy on April 01, 2021, 12:41:40 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 01, 2021, 07:56:16 AM
Quote from: Valmy on April 01, 2021, 07:42:30 AM
Quote from: DGuller on March 31, 2021, 02:44:09 AM
It's hard for a Soviet-born person to understand America's lack of resolve at punishing its political criminals.

Hey at least he actually spent some time in prison.
Yeah, a couple of years for a guy who was obviously morally prepared to form death squads if he could get away with it, before his sentence was commuted by Carter of all people.

Carter was all about healing the nation. Which I guess meant not putting any of Nixon's people in prison.
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: DGuller on April 01, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 01, 2021, 12:41:40 PM
Carter was all about healing the nation. Which I guess meant not putting any of Nixon's people in prison.
When you're a nice guy to bad people, you're a bad guy to good people.  You can't heal without first ruthlessly rooting out the source of infection.
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 01, 2021, 01:15:06 PM
I'm OK with the pardon.  He did five years for a break in during which no one was hurt.  The person who ordered the break in got off with no time.  Liddy wasn't a threat to society when he got out.
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 01, 2021, 02:01:12 PM
I'm not sure about that last line. Talk show hosts can do quite a bit of damage.  :sleep:
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: Razgovory on April 01, 2021, 02:14:19 PM
I always thought that if America would have a dictator it would look something like G. Gordon Liddy.  I had to listen to Liddy's radio program because my driver's ed instructor had him on in the car.  While Liddy was a crazy fascist, I will give him credit that he was a smart crazy fascist.  I remember one of his listeners calling in claiming that Tom Clancy was the epitome of Modernist literature.  Liddy had to explain to the rube that "modernist" doesn't mean "Happened recently".
Unfortunately, many Americans are eager for a fascist and don't really care if he reads or not.
Title: Re: G Gordon Liddy is dead, aged 90
Post by: grumbler on April 01, 2021, 08:14:10 PM
Liddy was a garden-variety thug who was good at selling thuggery as virtue.

He never saw anything wrong with breaking the law if doing so served his purposes.  Abiding by laws was for pussies in his world.