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Title: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Syt on February 07, 2021, 02:08:29 AM
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/537667-nevada-governor-touts-proposal-to-allow-tech-companies-to-create-local

QuoteNevada governor touts proposal to allow tech companies to create local governments

Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak (D) touted a proposal that would allow tech companies to create local governments.

A draft proposal that has not been introduced in the Nevada state legislature would clear the way for "Innovation Zones," allowing tech companies to form separate governments in the state, according to a draft of the bill obtained the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Sisolak touted his plan on Twitter on Wednesday, saying he was glad it was getting national attention as a "Top Tech Agenda." He added that the plan would "help strengthen Nevada's infrastructure and economy and help generate new jobs in our state."

QuoteI am glad to see my #NVSOTS being highlighted in a national spotlight as carrying a 'Top Tech Agenda'. My pledge to creating new innovation zones & developing new technology industries will help strengthen Nevada's infrastructure & economy and help generate new jobs in our State. https://t.co/Uvq3iMhC66

— Governor Sisolak (@GovSisolak) February 4, 2021

Sisolak first mentioned his plan during his State of the State address on Jan. 19. At the time, the governor said that companies "creating groundbreaking technologies can come to Nevada to develop their industries ... without tax abatements or public financing."

He also said that Blockchains LLC committed to building a "smart city" that ran on its technology following the bill's passage.

The Hill has reached out to Blockchains for comment.

According to the draft obtained by the Review-Journal, companies would be able to form governments that would have the same authority as a county, including imposing taxes, forming school districts and justice courts, and providing government services.

The Governor's Office of Economic Development would handle applications for the zones, which are limited to specific "innovative technology" such as blockchain, autonomous technology, robotics and renewable resource technology, the newspaper reported.

According to the newspaper, applicants for the zone must own 50,000 acres of undeveloped and uninhabited land within a county that's not a part of city or town. An applicant will need to have $250 million and a plan to invest an additional $1 billion in the zone over 10 years.

The zones would operate within their local counties to start but eventually would become independent governing bodies, according to the newspaper. The zones would also need a three-member board of supervisors that would have the same powers as a board of county commissioners.

The Hill has reached out to Sisolak's office for comment on the proposal.


So, Night City (from Cyberpunk 2077) will be located in Nevada, I guess? :P
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: The Brain on February 07, 2021, 02:48:29 AM
What's on the other side of the Earth from Nevada?
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Josquius on February 07, 2021, 04:51:06 AM
Got to wonder.... Are tech companies really the ones to target here?
By nature they don't really need huge tracts of land.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: celedhring on February 07, 2021, 04:59:00 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 07, 2021, 04:51:06 AM
Got to wonder.... Are tech companies really the ones to target here?
By nature they don't really need huge tracts of land.

Maybe tech companies that built their headquarters on a swamp?
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Syt on February 07, 2021, 05:14:34 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 07, 2021, 04:51:06 AM
Got to wonder.... Are tech companies really the ones to target here?
By nature they don't really need huge tracts of land.

I suppose it would only be interesting for those with a sizable employee count that also want to create living space/infrastructure for their workers and their families. E.g. if Google were to relocate to a new central location.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 07, 2021, 05:36:52 AM
Autonomous driving is a natural fit.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Monoriu on February 07, 2021, 05:38:42 AM
The experiment is worth trying. 
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Duque de Bragança on February 07, 2021, 07:01:19 AM
Quote from: celedhring on February 07, 2021, 04:59:00 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 07, 2021, 04:51:06 AM
Got to wonder.... Are tech companies really the ones to target here?
By nature they don't really need huge tracts of land.

Maybe tech companies that built their headquarters on a swamp?

Reptilians?  :tinfoil:
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Habbaku on February 07, 2021, 09:26:28 AM
Renraku is a trustworthy company.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Legbiter on February 07, 2021, 09:29:20 AM
Feudalism.  :lol:

*Edit* The experiment has already been done. Fordlandia.

QuoteThe town had a strict set of rules imposed by the managers. Alcohol, women, tobacco and even football were forbidden within the town, including inside the workers' own homes. Inspectors would go from house to house to check how organised the houses were and to enforce these rules. The inhabitants circumvented these prohibitions by paddling out to merchant riverboats moored beyond the town jurisdiction,[5] often hiding contraband goods inside fruits like watermelons. A small settlement was established 8 kilometres (5 mi) upstream on the "Island of Innocence" with bars, nightclubs and brothels.

The land was hilly, rocky and infertile. None of Ford's managers had the requisite knowledge of tropical agriculture. In the wild, the rubber trees grow apart from each other as a protection mechanism against plagues and diseases, often growing close to bigger trees of other species for added support. In Fordlândia, however, the trees were planted close together in plantations, easy prey for tree blight, sauva ants, lace bugs, red spiders, and leaf caterpillars.[6]

The workers on the plantations were given unfamiliar food, such as hamburgers and canned food, and forced to live in American-style housing. Most disliked the way they were treated – being required to wear ID badges and work through the middle of the day under the tropical sun – and would often refuse to work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordl%C3%A2ndia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordl%C3%A2ndia)
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Sheilbh on February 07, 2021, 10:43:57 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 07, 2021, 05:14:34 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 07, 2021, 04:51:06 AM
Got to wonder.... Are tech companies really the ones to target here?
By nature they don't really need huge tracts of land.

I suppose it would only be interesting for those with a sizable employee count that also want to create living space/infrastructure for their workers and their families. E.g. if Google were to relocate to a new central location.
They've also been very interested in developing smart cities. In part because they don't need much land, but they do all use a lot of data about humans. The amount they could learn is why they're interested in smart cities but these tend to hit up against local politics and concerns around data - one way out of that is if the company is the local politics :ph34r:
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Oexmelin on February 07, 2021, 10:50:12 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on February 07, 2021, 09:29:20 AM
Feudalism.  :lol:

*Edit* The experiment has already been done. Fordlandia.


Greg Grandin's book is worth a read, if you are interested.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on February 07, 2021, 11:45:14 AM
sounds like a fantastic idea....


not!

smells too much like the 19th and early 20th century
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: celedhring on February 07, 2021, 11:48:01 AM
Reminds me of when Sheldon Adelson was looking to build a Vegas knockoff in Madrid and requested that the Spanish state granted him a "special zone" where Spanish laws regarding labor, smoking, gambling, taxation etc... didn't apply.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Syt on February 07, 2021, 11:50:11 AM
Quote from: celedhring on February 07, 2021, 11:48:01 AM
Reminds me of when Sheldon Adelson was looking to build a Vegas knockoff in Madrid and requested that the Spanish state granted him a "special zone" where Spanish laws regarding labor, smoking, gambling, taxation etc... didn't apply.

Isn't that what Gibraltar is there for? :P
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: celedhring on February 07, 2021, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 07, 2021, 11:50:11 AM
Quote from: celedhring on February 07, 2021, 11:48:01 AM
Reminds me of when Sheldon Adelson was looking to build a Vegas knockoff in Madrid and requested that the Spanish state granted him a "special zone" where Spanish laws regarding labor, smoking, gambling, taxation etc... didn't apply.

Isn't that what Gibraltar is there for? :P

Can't fit tacky casinos in that rock  :P
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Legbiter on February 07, 2021, 11:57:37 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on February 07, 2021, 10:50:12 AMGreg Grandin's book is worth a read, if you are interested

I admit I'm very curious to see this play out. Mix old school Norman Yoke with 2020's HR management staffed with race and gender nuts. Like Syt pointed out we already live in the Cyberpunk timeline.  :lol: :hmm:
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: alfred russel on February 07, 2021, 12:01:18 PM
I don't approve of this: our biggest and most powerful companies should not be given small local governments to directly control. This is America, where they indirectly control all of our government.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Tonitrus on February 07, 2021, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: The Brain on February 07, 2021, 02:48:29 AM
What's on the other side of the Earth from Nevada?

Port-aux-Français, Kerguelen, French Southern Territories
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: The Brain on February 07, 2021, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 07, 2021, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: The Brain on February 07, 2021, 02:48:29 AM
What's on the other side of the Earth from Nevada?

Port-aux-Français, Kerguelen, French Southern Territories

ty
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Rex Francorum on February 07, 2021, 01:44:58 PM
Would be nothing new. Company cities are not new. We had quite a few in Québec. I think Hershey was the case too?
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: grumbler on February 07, 2021, 02:36:31 PM
Quote from: Legbiter on February 07, 2021, 09:29:20 AM
Feudalism.  :lol:

*Edit* The experiment has already been done. Fordlandia.

QuoteThe town had a strict set of rules imposed by the managers. Alcohol, women, tobacco and even football were forbidden within the town, including inside the workers' own homes. Inspectors would go from house to house to check how organised the houses were and to enforce these rules. The inhabitants circumvented these prohibitions by paddling out to merchant riverboats moored beyond the town jurisdiction,[5] often hiding contraband goods inside fruits like watermelons. A small settlement was established 8 kilometres (5 mi) upstream on the "Island of Innocence" with bars, nightclubs and brothels.

The land was hilly, rocky and infertile. None of Ford's managers had the requisite knowledge of tropical agriculture. In the wild, the rubber trees grow apart from each other as a protection mechanism against plagues and diseases, often growing close to bigger trees of other species for added support. In Fordlândia, however, the trees were planted close together in plantations, easy prey for tree blight, sauva ants, lace bugs, red spiders, and leaf caterpillars.[6]

The workers on the plantations were given unfamiliar food, such as hamburgers and canned food, and forced to live in American-style housing. Most disliked the way they were treated – being required to wear ID badges and work through the middle of the day under the tropical sun – and would often refuse to work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordl%C3%A2ndia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordl%C3%A2ndia)

I didn't see that series. Was it romantic comedy or situation comedy?  Netflix or HBO?
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on February 07, 2021, 08:47:50 PM
Disney had a town.  It sucked too.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: crazy canuck on February 08, 2021, 01:36:05 PM
Quote from: Rex Francorum on February 07, 2021, 01:44:58 PM
Would be nothing new. Company cities are not new. We had quite a few in Québec. I think Hershey was the case too?

Company towns are not new, but what is new is removing any possibility of democratic process.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Valmy on February 08, 2021, 02:43:02 PM
I do not appreciate things like this continuing to solidify the Democrats as a thoroughly pro-corporate party. Come on guys you used to sell out to the Unions, it was annoying at the time but it was far preferable than selling out to the bosses.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 08, 2021, 04:30:52 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 08, 2021, 02:43:02 PM
I do not appreciate things like this continuing to solidify the Democrats as a thoroughly pro-corporate party.

You and I definitely have different understandings of pro-corporate party.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Tonitrus on February 08, 2021, 07:07:24 PM
From this, I expect that town around the Tesla gigafactory will crown King Musk.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on February 08, 2021, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 08, 2021, 07:07:24 PM
From this, I expect that town around the Tesla gigafactory will crown King Musk.
King Elon I of House of Musk?  Sounds like some Deliverance kind of shit.
Title: Re: Nevada governor proposes to allow tech companies to create local governments
Post by: Valmy on February 08, 2021, 08:19:28 PM
Hail Musk!