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Title: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Razgovory on July 14, 2020, 04:26:01 PM
QuoteDianna Ploss, who hosted a conservative radio show in New Hampshire, filmed herself last week telling landscape workers, "It is America, you should be speaking English."
Dianna Ploss, who hosted a conservative radio show in New Hampshire, filmed herself last week telling landscape workers, "It is America, you should be speaking English."Credit...Joseph Prezioso/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
By Derrick Bryson Taylor and Allyson Waller
July 14, 2020, 3:49 p.m. ET

A New Hampshire radio station has severed ties with a conservative radio host who berated landscape workers for speaking Spanish in a widely shared video.

The host, Dianna Ploss, "is no longer associated or affiliated in any way with WSMN or Bartis-Russell Broadcasting LLC," WSMN Broadcasting said in a statement on Sunday. "We at WSMN value freedom of speech, freedom of expression and assembly. We will not tolerate discrimination, racism or hatred."

The station added that it would continue to present on-air opportunities for "discussion, education and the exchange of opinions and ideas."

Ms. Ploss, who hosted "The Dianna Ploss Show," recorded herself on Friday confronting several employees of Morin's Landscaping as they were setting up potted trees on Main Street in Nashua, N.H., about 35 miles south of Concord, the capital.

"It is America, you should be speaking English," Ms. Ploss is heard saying in the filmed encounter, which was initially posted on Facebook and was widely shared on social media. "You should be speaking English. They work for the state, you should be speaking English."

One of the workers responds that they did not work for the state.

Ms. Ploss goes on to ask if any of the workers are in the country illegally. "Speak English," Ms. Ploss repeats to the workers.

In the video, Ms. Ploss is confronted by a man who asks why she is harassing the workers. "He's a Black man, and he's going to protect the brown man from this white woman who's practicing white privilege because she happened to walk by and heard this guy talking to all of these guys, doing this work, in Spanish," she says.

Ms. Ploss couldn't be reached for comment on Tuesday.

A fervent supporter of President Trump, Ms. Ploss has more than 43,000 followers on Facebook and more than 34,000 on Twitter. Calling herself an "America First Activist," she hosts weekly shows on Facebook Live and leads the group "Massachusetts 4 Trump."

George Russell, the owner of WSMN Broadcasting, said Tuesday that Ms. Ploss's conservative show was no longer airing on the station, adding that she had been a host at the station for two and a half years.

He said that Ms. Ploss was never employed by WSMN but rather she was a client who brokered her airtime as all hosts at the station do.

Mr. Russell said he had received thousands of complaints after the video was shared, but none of the complaints were lodged by other radio hosts at the station.

In a statement on Monday, Tom Morin, the owner of the landscaping company whose workers were targeted by Ms. Ploss, said he appreciated the support his company had received following the incident. "I believe that we can all take immense pride in how quickly the community rallied to demonstrate that this type of behavior is completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated," he said.

Gary Galbo, who owns the Nashua Coins and Collectibles shop on Main Street where the video was shot, said he didn't witness the event firsthand but thought Ms. Ploss "was out of line."

"There's no place in Nashua for discrimination against Hispanics or anybody else for that matter," Mr. Galbo said Tuesday.

Ms. Ploss's video was the latest in a wave of videos of racist tirades and behavior that have often resulted in people losing their jobs.

In May, a video of a white woman calling the police on a Black man who asked her to put her dog on a leash while he was bird-watching in Central Park led to her dismissal from her finance job. In June, a St. John's University fencing coach was fired after he was recorded in a private lesson saying that Black people "steal" and "kill." And last week, a writer for the Fox News host Tucker Carlson was fired for mocking minority groups and women in an online forum.

These episodes have played out as the nation has reckoned with its racist history in the months after the death of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis.

In a public video posted to her Facebook page on Monday, Ms. Ploss said she took the criticism over her remarks as "a badge of honor." Wearing a "Women for Trump" hat and sitting next to a cardboard cutout of Mr. Trump, Ms. Ploss mocked those who condemned her actions.

"Now get out of my way, because I have a country to save," she said. "That's the end of Dianna Ploss's public statement."

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Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: The Brain on July 14, 2020, 04:33:38 PM
Conservatives are weird.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Eddie Teach on July 14, 2020, 05:05:47 PM
Meh. She has every right to tell people to speak English, just as they have every right to tell her to fuck off in Spanish.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Grey Fox on July 14, 2020, 07:35:38 PM
Speak White!

:Rolleyes:
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Caliga on July 14, 2020, 08:38:07 PM
Why do people have to be such douches to hard-working immigrants? :(

Also, I wonder if idiots like her realize Trump's wife and mother were both first generation immigrants whose first languages were not English?
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 14, 2020, 08:53:10 PM
I've seen a bunch of youtube clips of people yelling at Mexicans for speaking Spanish.  They're almost always older ladies.

Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: DGuller on July 14, 2020, 08:59:30 PM
To be devil's advocate, there are situations where it shouldn't be considered racist to judge people for not speaking English if they can.  This random harassment of strangers obviously isn't it, but in a workplace environment speaking another language in front of people who do not understand it can be considered rude and exclusionary, if you can speak a language that everyone can understand.  I hate it when people talk to me in Russian at work, because I feel like replying in Russian is not appropriate when there are non-Russian speakers around, but it can also be rude to keep switching to English when they obviously want to speak to me in Russian.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: FunkMonk on July 14, 2020, 10:39:28 PM
I'll never understand why these snowflakes get upset because people are working and speaking Spanish amongst themselves.

And then they act aggrieved when someone calls them a racist.


Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Caliga on July 15, 2020, 07:47:28 AM
One has to wonder if the Wampanoag ever yelled at the Pilgrims to "SPEAK WAMPANOAG!" :sleep:
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Barrister on July 15, 2020, 10:39:39 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 14, 2020, 08:38:07 PM
Why do people have to be such douches to hard-working immigrants? :(

Also, I wonder if idiots like her realize Trump's wife and mother were both first generation immigrants whose first languages were not English?

Trump's mother was from Scotland...
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 15, 2020, 10:41:23 AM
Point stands.  :D
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Barrister on July 15, 2020, 10:48:47 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 15, 2020, 10:41:23 AM
Point stands.  :D

Actually I have to give this one to Caliga :( - googling suggests that her first language was gaelic, and she learned english in school.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: alfred russel on July 15, 2020, 11:37:35 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 14, 2020, 10:39:28 PM
I'll never understand why these snowflakes get upset because people are working and speaking Spanish amongst themselves.

And then they act aggrieved when someone calls them a racist.

It isn't racist. Ethnocentric, but not racist.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Caliga on July 15, 2020, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 15, 2020, 10:48:47 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 15, 2020, 10:41:23 AM
Point stands.  :D

Actually I have to give this one to Caliga :( - googling suggests that her first language was gaelic, and she learned english in school.
Yep.  OWNED!  :P
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Zoupa on July 15, 2020, 04:54:47 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on July 15, 2020, 11:37:35 AM
Quote from: FunkMonk on July 14, 2020, 10:39:28 PM
I'll never understand why these snowflakes get upset because people are working and speaking Spanish amongst themselves.

And then they act aggrieved when someone calls them a racist.

It isn't racist. Ethnocentric, but not racist.

The overlap is close to 100%
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: crazy canuck on July 16, 2020, 08:00:45 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on July 14, 2020, 05:05:47 PM
Meh. She has every right to tell people to speak English, just as they have every right to tell her to fuck off in Spanish.

And her employer has every right to terminate their relationship.

Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 16, 2020, 10:22:15 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2020, 08:00:45 AM
And her employer has every right to terminate their relationship.

Not her employer, she paid the station for her show slot. It's more a "right to refuse service to any customer" kind of situation.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: merithyn on July 16, 2020, 10:27:17 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 16, 2020, 10:22:15 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2020, 08:00:45 AM
And her employer has every right to terminate their relationship.

Not her employer, she paid the station for her show slot. It's more a "right to refuse service to any customer" kind of situation.

Similar to not making a cake for a gay couple. :)
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Valmy on July 16, 2020, 01:53:39 PM
So wait she didn't lose her job but lost her public access spot? Huh. Well make a podcast then if you want to keep spewing your shit to the world.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: grumbler on July 16, 2020, 11:07:47 PM
Quote from: Valmy on July 16, 2020, 01:53:39 PM
So wait she didn't lose her job but lost her public access spot? Huh. Well make a podcast then if you want to keep spewing your shit to the world.

It wasn't a public-access spot.   She paid something like $500/hr to broadcast her show (the station just provided equipment and an engineer).  She paid for this by selling advertising/mentions on her show.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: viper37 on July 18, 2020, 12:38:20 AM
Quote from: DGuller on July 14, 2020, 08:59:30 PM
To be devil's advocate, there are situations where it shouldn't be considered racist to judge people for not speaking English if they can.  This random harassment of strangers obviously isn't it, but in a workplace environment speaking another language in front of people who do not understand it can be considered rude and exclusionary, if you can speak a language that everyone can understand.  I hate it when people talk to me in Russian at work, because I feel like replying in Russian is not appropriate when there are non-Russian speakers around, but it can also be rude to keep switching to English when they obviously want to speak to me in Russian.
i don't have a problem with this.  As long as people address me in a language I understand, whatever they do elsewhere is not my business.

Where I to live in a foreign country that I do not understand the language spoken by the majority in where I work, I would do every effort possible to learn that language; if I come across a co-worker who speaks French, I would not hesitate to exchange a few passing words in French with him/her when we're not discussing sensitive work issues.

You guys have to stop with that paranoia thing.  People aren't always talking behind your back.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on July 18, 2020, 06:19:36 AM
Most overheard conversations are very banal, so I prefer it when an overheard conversation is in a language I don't understand.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: The Brain on July 18, 2020, 06:32:26 AM
At a workplace or at a social gathering it is indeed rude to speak a language someone who is not simply a bystander doesn't understand, if you all know a language that the person does understand.

If workers don't speak the local language very well it makes sense from a health and safety perspective that they speak their own language when talking to each other when they're at work. And of course workers who are foreigners often don't speak the local language at all, which makes making them speak the local language extra stupid.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: DGuller on July 18, 2020, 09:02:19 AM
Quote from: viper37 on July 18, 2020, 12:38:20 AM
You guys have to stop with that paranoia thing.  People aren't always talking behind your back.
It's not about paranoia, it's about exclusion.  The person who doesn't speak your language is being excluded from the conversation and is made to feel out of place.  Also, sometimes you may think the conversation may not involve another person, but it turns out that they do have something to add, or maybe they have something to learn.  You'd never know that if you preemptively exclude them from the conversation.
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: crazy canuck on July 18, 2020, 08:09:45 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 16, 2020, 10:22:15 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on July 16, 2020, 08:00:45 AM
And her employer has every right to terminate their relationship.

Not her employer, she paid the station for her show slot. It's more a "right to refuse service to any customer" kind of situation.

Thanks for the clarification  :)
Title: Re: Radio Host Loses Her Show Over English-Only Rant
Post by: viper37 on July 21, 2020, 11:49:53 AM
Quote from: DGuller on July 18, 2020, 09:02:19 AM
Quote from: viper37 on July 18, 2020, 12:38:20 AM
You guys have to stop with that paranoia thing.  People aren't always talking behind your back.
It's not about paranoia, it's about exclusion.  The person who doesn't speak your language is being excluded from the conversation and is made to feel out of place.  Also, sometimes you may think the conversation may not involve another person, but it turns out that they do have something to add, or maybe they have something to learn.  You'd never know that if you preemptively exclude them from the conversation.
If I'm talking to my friend/colleague, you're not concerned.  If I'm in the break room talking about yesterday's goal by Sydney Crosby against Carey Price, I'll use the common language, if I know there are other hockey fans.  If it's clear that they're all baseball fans, I won't bother with the language when talking to my french speaking friend.

There's no exclusion here.  It's something I've often heard of, muslims students speaking arabic to one another while they walk in a corridor.  Some are extremely bothered by that. Wtf man?  They're talking to one another.  You don't even know them!  Why do you want to understand what they're saying??

People have a right to chat with one another in the language they like.

Official communications should be held in the language of the workplace, here, it's French, elsewhere, it will be something else.  But private chat?  Doesn't matter.