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Title: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: viper37 on April 19, 2020, 04:40:28 PM
Link (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-weapon-lockdown-portapique-1.5537598)
It's a small village, not far New Brunswick.
At least 10 dead, including one RCMP officer.  Another officer is injured. The perprator apparently stole his uniform/coat to flee or commit more murders.

Too early to talk of motives or anything else.  The shooter was found dead not long ago.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 10 deaths
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 19, 2020, 05:07:36 PM
Give us a picture of the killer and we can make wild speculations about the motives.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 10 deaths
Post by: fromtia on April 19, 2020, 07:25:53 PM
Yeah, pics! Pissed off white guy or beardy weirdy brown guy?
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 10 deaths
Post by: Barrister on April 19, 2020, 07:29:46 PM
Details are still coming out.  Fatalities are now 13.

Weirdest part is this guy was dressed as a RCMP officer, had a car marked as a RCMP vehicle.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-weapon-lockdown-portapique-1.5537598

Fuck this. :(
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 10 deaths
Post by: Oexmelin on April 19, 2020, 09:03:07 PM
Shooter was a wealthy denturist from Nova Scotia. 
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 10 deaths
Post by: Valmy on April 19, 2020, 11:25:51 PM
At least the asshole is dead.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 10 deaths
Post by: Monoriu on April 19, 2020, 11:44:10 PM
First time I have seen the word "denturist".  I put it into google translate.  The Chinese translation is the same as the Chinese term for "dentist". 
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 10 deaths
Post by: Oexmelin on April 20, 2020, 01:43:56 AM
Someone who makes dentures. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denturist
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 10 deaths
Post by: The Brain on April 20, 2020, 01:47:10 AM
:(
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: viper37 on April 20, 2020, 04:55:15 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 19, 2020, 05:07:36 PM
Give us a picture of the killer and we can make wild speculations about the motives.

(https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/active-shooter-gabriel-wortman.png?w=840&h=630&crop=1&quality=80&strip=all)

See, he doesn't look like a psycho. ;)

Motives are unclear, at least some of the victims were randomed.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: viper37 on April 20, 2020, 04:57:14 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 19, 2020, 07:29:46 PM
Details are still coming out.  Fatalities are now 13.

Weirdest part is this guy was dressed as a RCMP officer, had a car marked as a RCMP vehicle.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-weapon-lockdown-portapique-1.5537598 (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/rcmp-weapon-lockdown-portapique-1.5537598)

Fuck this. :(
On the news this morning, they didn't say he had a RCMP car, but that he had "a car ressembling a RCMP vehicle".  It's weird.  Makes me think he bought a regular car and painted it to the colours of a police vehicle.   :wacko:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: Grey Fox on April 20, 2020, 05:43:10 AM
He did.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: merithyn on April 20, 2020, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 20, 2020, 05:43:10 AM
He did.

So very planned? As in, at least a week or more in advance.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: Barrister on April 20, 2020, 02:36:41 PM
Quote from: merithyn on April 20, 2020, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 20, 2020, 05:43:10 AM
He did.

So very planned? As in, at least a week or more in advance.

The car and uniform certainly were planned.  Whether or not this spree was planned - we don't know.  Still very light on details.  Reporters obviously are not on the ground working the story so we're stuck waiting for official announcements about what happened.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: Malthus on April 20, 2020, 02:41:08 PM
Quote from: merithyn on April 20, 2020, 02:31:00 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 20, 2020, 05:43:10 AM
He did.

So very planned? As in, at least a week or more in advance.

According to what I read, the guy was "into" RCMP memorabilia. He deliberately went out and bought ex-police cars. He painted one up to look like the real thing.

He allegedly had a police uniform as well.

He had plenty of cash to fund his hobby - allegedly, he was a reasonably wealthy denturist. He made the news a while ago, in a philanthropic way - he provided free dentures to someone who lost their teeth due to some severe cancer drug therapy.

So, outwardly at least, a pillar of the community type, with maybe an eccentric interest in police stuff. Allegedly, he wrote in his school yearbook he wanted to be an RCMP officer ...

Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: HVC on April 20, 2020, 02:44:55 PM
theres also a picture going around from his highschool year book where it says he's likely to become a cop. so long standing obsession with cops. How that translates into killing people, not sure.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: Malthus on April 20, 2020, 02:47:54 PM
Quote from: HVC on April 20, 2020, 02:44:55 PM
theres also a picture going around from his highschool year book where it says he's likely to become a cop. so long standing obsession with cops. How that translates into killing people, not sure.

Perhaps some who fantasize about being cops aren't fantasizing about serving their community - they are fantasizing about having the power of life or death over others. The respect (and fear) of the uniform plays into that.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 20, 2020, 02:58:08 PM
Who fantasizes about "serving their community?"  :wacko:
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: Syt on April 20, 2020, 03:02:24 PM
There's people who want to be heroes. Like firemen who start fires so they can then be the good guy putting them out.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: grumbler on April 20, 2020, 03:11:37 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 20, 2020, 02:58:08 PM
Who fantasizes about "serving their community?"  :wacko:

The people who actually turn out to be good cops.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: The Brain on April 20, 2020, 03:17:12 PM
Most people who want to be cops fantasize about banging Alexandra Daddario. The shooter was a nutter.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: merithyn on April 20, 2020, 03:18:34 PM
Current count is up to 19 dead. He apparently shot the RCMP office in the chest, then pulled her out of her car and killed her execution-style.

Rampage started with his ex-wife and her new boyfriend.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: Malthus on April 20, 2020, 03:30:56 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on April 20, 2020, 02:58:08 PM
Who fantasizes about "serving their community?"  :wacko:

Uh, lots of people?  :huh:

There is a pretty notable desire to be a "good person", to help others by promoting justice, health and safety. It's a big motive for some at least to be cops, health care workers, firemen and women, give to charity, etc.
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 20, 2020, 04:46:02 PM
Maybe I should have put emphasis on the word "fantasizes".
Title: Re: Nova Scotia shooting, at least 16 deaths
Post by: Valmy on April 20, 2020, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: merithyn on April 20, 2020, 03:18:34 PM
Current count is up to 19 dead. He apparently shot the RCMP office in the chest, then pulled her out of her car and killed her execution-style.

Rampage started with his ex-wife and her new boyfriend.

Jesus Christ