Jesus, Berkut...an opening loss vs Hawaii?
In other news, Wyoming will suck this year.
I wasn't sold on Florida as a Top 10 team, and after watching them beat Miami, well, I'm still not sold.
They won and soon they will fatten up on the FCS teams in the rest of their OOC schedule (I...guess UT Martin is FCS) and play the shitty SEC East, so I expect them to roll into the World's Biggest Cocktail Party with an inflated record and entrenched into the top 10.
It's good being SEC.
No doubt the rest of their non-conference schedule is pathetic (2 FCS teams--are they channeling UNC or something?), but I can easily see them having 3 conference losses before they meet Georgia.
Quote from: dps on August 25, 2019, 09:14:15 PM
I wasn't sold on Florida as a Top 10 team, and after watching them beat Miami, well, I'm still not sold.
I only watched the 2nd half. As much as I did not want Miami to win, the antics of Florida's QB made me reluctant to root for them either. His brother is a lot more even-headed.
Quote from: PDH on August 25, 2019, 07:35:21 PM
Jesus, Berkut...an opening loss vs Hawaii?
In other news, Wyoming will suck this year.
Arizona got 6 turnovers in that game. 4 INT, 2 fumble recoveries.
How in the hell do you get SIX turnovers, and still give up 45 points? AND LOSE?
How is that even possible?
I cannot recall a year where the prognosis for the Michigan football team was less clear than this coming season. They could be a playoff team, or could have five losses. Where Michigan has lots of veteran players (the offense, especially the line, receivers, and QB) the coaching isn't proven. Where is has proven coaching (defense) it doesn't have as many veteran players as usual, especially at DT and CB. So, prospects rest on the quality of unproven elements.
This should be "the year," but last year should have been, even more so. At least we fans can finally relax about the offensive line (barring injuries).
Wyoming starts off the year with Missouri coming to Laramie this Saturday. I am planning to attend, to drink beer at the stadium, and to watch the Wyoming team once again be unable to have any sort of offense. A long season is ahead of me, the beer will help.
Quote from: grumbler on August 29, 2019, 09:12:59 AM
I cannot recall a year where the prognosis for the Michigan football team was less clear than this coming season. They could be a playoff team, or could have five losses. Where Michigan has lots of veteran players (the offense, especially the line, receivers, and QB) the coaching isn't proven. Where is has proven coaching (defense) it doesn't have as many veteran players as usual, especially at DT and CB. So, prospects rest on the quality of unproven elements.
This should be "the year," but last year should have been, even more so. At least we fans can finally relax about the offensive line (barring injuries).
On the plus side, they'll have one easy W when they go up against Iowa. <_<
Quote from: merithyn on August 29, 2019, 03:19:42 PM
On the plus side, they'll have one easy W when they go up against Iowa. <_<
Iowa is going to have a good team this year. Both S&P+ and FPI have them top-25, and both place them in the top 2 in the B10 West (FPI has them slightly behind Minnesota, and S&P+ has them more substantially behind Wisconsin). Except for Iowa State, they have a Favorable OOC schedule (and they are slightly favored against ISU). Both systems have the likeliest win total as 8.
This should be a good year for Iowa. I'm happy for their fans, because I think they have the second-best fans in the B10 (and I'd think most other team's fans would agree with that while disagreeing about the best).
Quote from: grumbler on August 29, 2019, 04:21:21 PM
Quote from: merithyn on August 29, 2019, 03:19:42 PM
On the plus side, they'll have one easy W when they go up against Iowa. <_<
Iowa is going to have a good team this year. Both S&P+ and FPI have them top-25, and both place them in the top 2 in the B10 West (FPI has them slightly behind Minnesota, and S&P+ has them more substantially behind Wisconsin). Except for Iowa State, they have a Favorable OOC schedule (and they are slightly favored against ISU). Both systems have the likeliest win total as 8.
This should be a good year for Iowa. I'm happy for their fans, because I think they have the second-best fans in the B10 (and I'd think most other team's fans would agree with that while disagreeing about the best).
Iowa is going to have a solid year this year, just like last year. We'll have eight wins, possibly nine. We'll get a bowl berth because we always do because everyone loves our fans.
But we're not going to win the big games (we never do), and we're not going to the Rose Bowl. Tthat's just how it's going to be so long as a) Stanley is our QB (with no one left to really be his receiver this year), and b) Ferentz as our coach. Ferentz is a solid guy, knows his stuff, but he's never going to bring us over the top. Stanley is a decent-ish QB that does as well as he does because Iowa's line is incredible.
This has been our lot for a while now. I'm resigned to not see a win over Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State for the next decade. :(
Iowa 55, THE Ohio State 24, 11/4/17.
Ferentz is a miracle worker.
Quote from: PDH on August 29, 2019, 11:21:31 AM
Wyoming starts off the year with Missouri coming to Laramie this Saturday. I am planning to attend, to drink beer at the stadium, and to watch the Wyoming team once again be unable to have any sort of offense. A long season is ahead of me, the beer will help.
Well you couldn't have been more wrong PDH.
Quote from: dps on August 25, 2019, 10:16:25 PM
No doubt the rest of their non-conference schedule is pathetic (2 FCS teams--are they channeling UNC or something?), but I can easily see them having 3 conference losses before they meet Georgia.
Kentucky, Tennessee, and South Carolina are all hot garbage. They might have two losses: to Auburn and LSU. But they will probably still be top 10 without beating anybody worth a damn because SEC SEC SEC
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2019, 12:36:54 AM
Kentucky, Tennessee, and South Carolina are all hot garbage.
Agree on Tennessee and probably South Carolina (they just lost to UNC, so they can't be much good), but Kentucky might be good. I do think that Florida is better than Kentucky, but the Kentucky game isn't a gimme, IMO.
Quote from: Valmy on August 31, 2019, 10:12:57 PM
Well you couldn't have been more wrong PDH.
As I wake up here in Laramie I am reminded that sometimes is ok to be wrong. It was an amazing game.
Pretty decent weekend of college football. I missed the WVU game because I was coaching my son's game, but I'm kind of glad I missed it. Struggled mightily against a IAA school (yes I know they're #2 or whatever at that level). I'll take the win, but any fan of the team that does not have big concerns needs his head checked. Not sold on the new coach but I would be happy to be proven wrong. I guess it's a plus that I'm not seeing Holgorsen's sideline antics anymore, at least.
It was a solid week for the Mountain West. Hawaii, Nevada, Boise State, and YOUR WYOMING COWBOYS all won vs Power 5 schools. Yeah I know, beating Missouri is not like a real Power 5 team, but it was nice to see the conference have more ability to compete.
Next up for Wyoming is the mighty Texas State - I hope Wyoming is not still hung over from last Saturday's win...
Well Texas State beat Georgia State last year, which just beat Tennessee. Ergo Texas State is basically a second SEC team in two weeks for Wyoming.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 29, 2019, 04:30:32 PM
Iowa 55, THE Ohio State 24, 11/4/17.
Ferentz is a miracle worker.
Dude... one big win in two full seasons does not a miracle worker make. :rolleyes:
That being said, Iowa gets a W. :yeah:
Quote from: Valmy on September 03, 2019, 10:44:52 AM
Well Texas State beat Georgia State last year, which just beat Tennessee. Ergo Texas State is basically a second SEC team in two weeks for Wyoming.
#marshalllogic
Quote from: Valmy on September 03, 2019, 10:44:52 AM
Well Texas State beat Georgia State last year, which just beat Tennessee. Ergo Texas State is basically a second SEC team in two weeks for Wyoming.
Dammit. I knew we were hosed. Actually, I worry more about overconfidence and playing in 100 degree temps.
Quote from: Valmy on September 03, 2019, 10:44:52 AM
Well Texas State beat Georgia State last year, which just beat Tennessee. Ergo Texas State is basically a second SEC team in two weeks for Wyoming.
More like, ergo, Tennessee is now a worse embarrassment for the SEC than Vanderbilt (which has beaten the Vols 3 straight years for the first time since the 1920s).
See, coming from a smaller conference it doesn't matter which team you play. When your team beats any P5 team you get to puff out your chest, complement the losing fans on a "Good Game!" while finding a place to drink too much beer afterwards - preferably with hundreds of other fans at 120 decibels.
Quote from: merithyn on September 03, 2019, 10:48:29 AM
Dude... one big win in two full seasons does not a miracle worker make. :rolleyes:
No shit. What does make him a miracle worker is his ability to make competitive teams out of skill position players that none of the big boys wanted.
The very fact Ferentz has kept a head coaching job at one school for 20 years is a miracle in itself.
Quote from: PDH on September 03, 2019, 01:38:00 PM
See, coming from a smaller conference it doesn't matter which team you play. When your team beats any P5 team you get to puff out your chest, complement the losing fans on a "Good Game!" while finding a place to drink too much beer afterwards - preferably with hundreds of other fans at 120 decibels.
Nevada and Purdue, for example. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2MwmMbEJW0
Head up to Alpine, WY and check out Melvin Brewing. The town is so small it doesn't have a mcdonalds, but the brewery is world class. I've been there twice in the last 18 months.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 05, 2019, 04:29:59 PM
Nevada and Purdue, for example. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2MwmMbEJW0
Head up to Alpine, WY and check out Melvin Brewing. The town is so small it doesn't have a mcdonalds, but the brewery is world class. I've been there twice in the last 18 months.
Loved that game. Loved also that the walk on kicker got a scholarship.
Arizona has their home opener tomorrow. Should be a huge game. They had a well needed week off to recover from the disaster in Hawai'i, so can possibly improve to .500 with a win over an in state rival.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on September 05, 2019, 04:29:59 PM
Head up to Alpine, WY and check out Melvin Brewing. The town is so small it doesn't have a mcdonalds, but the brewery is world class. I've been there twice in the last 18 months.
:worthy: :worthy: :worthy: :worthy:
Have not been to Alpine, but went to their original location in Jackson in the back of Thai Me Up. One of the best days in my adult life was when they started distributing Melvin in Ohio.
Have you all seen the pic of the Florida State receiver lined up facing the wrong way? Reminds me of the video of the two UF players blocking each other from a few years ago.
Fucking LSU! Damn it! Damn it! Damn it!
Wyoming wins over mighty Texas State 23-14. Another glorious win over a mediocre (at best) opponent. Of course Missouri (whom Wyoming merely beat last week) beat WVU (sorry Spicey) today, so technically Wyoming get credit for that victory as well under the modified "Fan Equivalency Wins System"
West Virginia was terrible.
Still gave up fewer points than Texas though :weep:
Quote from: Valmy on September 07, 2019, 11:41:05 PM
West Virginia was terrible.
Still gave up fewer points than Texas though :weep:
I'm sorry Valmy. Texas needs to do like Ohio State and schedule the creampuffs in their home state every year. Maybe then they can reach the heights of a UWyo program.
Well Texas is feasting on Rice next week, in the Ohio State spirit.
Speaking of which has anybody else had a hard time watching Ohio State since Ed stopped posting? It just makes me sad now.
Had a hard time watching TOSU since I was born. Bleh.
ESPN has Iowa ranked #16, one better than Ohio State. :w00t:
I know it's temporary, but I'm going to enjoy it this week. Until Michigan knocks them out next week.
Quote from: merithyn on September 08, 2019, 10:27:08 AM
ESPN has Iowa ranked #16, one better than Ohio State. :w00t:
I know it's temporary, but I'm going to enjoy it this week. Until Michigan knocks them out next week.
Unless the Iowa team has renamed itself "bye" Michigan doesn't play them next week.
Oct 5th is the game date.
Quote from: grumbler on September 08, 2019, 07:22:30 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 08, 2019, 10:27:08 AM
ESPN has Iowa ranked #16, one better than Ohio State. :w00t:
I know it's temporary, but I'm going to enjoy it this week. Until Michigan knocks them out next week.
Unless the Iowa team has renamed itself "bye" Michigan doesn't play them next week.
Oct 5th is the game date.
Yeah, that's what I meant. :blush:
New standings have Iowa at 19, anyway. ESPN was being gracious, it appears. :sleep:
Quote from: Valmy on September 07, 2019, 11:41:05 PM
West Virginia was terrible.
Still gave up fewer points than Texas though :weep:
I switched over to Michigan-Army in the 2nd half but it looked like Mizzou was letting up on WVU. I bet they could have put up 70 if they really wanted. WVU is terrible. They won't beat Kansas.
Don't lose hope: Kansas lost to somebody called "Coastal Carolina".
I had low expectations for WVU's new coach. I had somewhat high expectations for their Oklahoma transfer Kendall. I could have dealt with a "normal" loss, but this was flat out embarrassing.
Quote from: derspiess on September 09, 2019, 09:27:04 AM
I had low expectations for WVU's new coach. I had somewhat high expectations for their Oklahoma transfer Kendall. I could have dealt with a "normal" loss, but this was flat out embarrassing.
Almost as embarrassing as Mizzou losing to Wyoming the week before.
I knew you were going to point that out :lol:
Well look on the bright side: you are not a Tennessee fan.
I got free tickets to the Ducks v Montana game this Saturday. The seats are on the 50-yard line, half-way up. Hard not to watch the Ducks around here, so I'm starting to follow them a bit by default, and they look pretty good. My girlfriend - also newly single - is going with me, and we're planning a girls' weekend of drunken debauchery. (We're both nearing 50, so probably more like a few drinks, the game, then crashing, but still...)
This will be fun! I'll drive down early to watch the Iowa v Iowa State game, then tailgate until the Ducks game. ^_^
Well WV sure put NC State in their place Spicey.
Wyoming showed that through grind it out, 3 yards and a cloud of dust football they can beat an FCS team 21-16...
It is hard to be a Wyoming fan, the very occasional highs, the more frequent lows, and the times in between when they win against a weaker opponent just barely...
Ouch. Kentucky just broke Florida's QB in half.
An Iowa State fan's reaction to the ridiculous way they found to lose to Iowa:
QuoteThis state is a god forsaken vortex of shit weather where the human spirit routinely triumphs over talent or merit then drowns it in alcohol to spit in the face of the universe and dare karma to fuck it even harder just to prove we can take it.
Holy shit, pass the Tylenol.
I don't know quite what it means but I found it inspiring -_-
Well damn.
Arizona looked....good.
A 99 yard drive in the 4th to put the game away up 1 score.
13 plays. 99 yards. Not one pass.
Quote from: dps on September 01, 2019, 12:58:36 AM
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2019, 12:36:54 AM
Kentucky, Tennessee, and South Carolina are all hot garbage.
Agree on Tennessee and probably South Carolina (they just lost to UNC, so they can't be much good), but Kentucky might be good. I do think that Florida is better than Kentucky, but the Kentucky game isn't a gimme, IMO.
Yeah well that game against Kentucky was one shitty team versus another shitty team. Florida is still top 10.
Quote from: Berkut on September 15, 2019, 09:19:18 AM
Well damn.
Arizona looked....good.
A 99 yard drive in the 4th to put the game away up 1 score.
13 plays. 99 yards. Not one pass.
Arizona just ruined this week for all of west Texas, I hope Arizona is proud of itself.
Quote from: Valmy on September 15, 2019, 01:27:08 PM
Quote from: dps on September 01, 2019, 12:58:36 AM
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2019, 12:36:54 AM
Kentucky, Tennessee, and South Carolina are all hot garbage.
Agree on Tennessee and probably South Carolina (they just lost to UNC, so they can't be much good), but Kentucky might be good. I do think that Florida is better than Kentucky, but the Kentucky game isn't a gimme, IMO.
Yeah well that game against Kentucky was one shitty team versus another shitty team. Florida is still top 10.
Odd complaint from a fan of the highest ranked team with a loss.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on September 15, 2019, 01:57:51 PM
Odd complaint from a fan of the highest ranked team with a loss.
Not really. How is it? Anyway it was a follow up to a conversation and prediction made prior to that loss.
Quote from: Valmy on September 14, 2019, 10:55:33 PM
An Iowa State fan's reaction to the ridiculous way they found to lose to Iowa:
QuoteThis state is a god forsaken vortex of shit weather where the human spirit routinely triumphs over talent or merit then drowns it in alcohol to spit in the face of the universe and dare karma to fuck it even harder just to prove we can take it.
Holy shit, pass the Tylenol.
I don't know quite what it means but I found it inspiring -_-
I dunno what it means either, but... yes. I agree.
Ducks game was ... not much fun. Montana was mowed down like a little league team.
And I had to miss the Iowa v Iowa State game for it. Damn lightening delay. :mad:
If you think things are bad, they could be worse. Georgia Tech lost to the Citadel.
Now this is a rebuilding year if there ever has been a rebuilding year for Georgia Tech, as they are moving on from Paul Johnson and the triple option. But the Citadel is not just an FCS school, they are a bad FCS school -- coming into the game at 0-2 off losses to Towson and Elon and picked to finish in the bottom half of their conference.
To make matters really bad? The Citadel runs the triple option. :lol:
Quote from: Valmy on September 14, 2019, 06:08:00 PM
Well WV sure put NC State in their place Spicey.
Yeah, I guess they made adjustments in the 2nd half. I'll take it. But they still won't beat Kansas. Not after seeing what they did on the road at BC :o
Quote from: derspiess on September 16, 2019, 12:37:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 14, 2019, 06:08:00 PM
Well WV sure put NC State in their place Spicey.
Yeah, I guess they made adjustments in the 2nd half. I'll take it. But they still won't beat Kansas. Not after seeing what they did on the road at BC :o
Well they did beat Kansas.
Texas will be there in two weeks for a match up of 1-0 Big 12 teams.
Craziest game I've ever seen. WSU vs UCLA. It is 63-60 in 4th qtr. Wazzu QB has thrown nine...NINE touchdowns
And as it stands, the QB with Nine TD's will lose 67-63
Yeah I saw the end of it. Just as Chip Kelly gameplanned it.
Wazzu with 6 turnovers and gave up 2 special teams TDs. Total team effort to blow that 49-17 lead.
Quote from: Valmy on September 22, 2019, 12:05:35 AM
Quote from: derspiess on September 16, 2019, 12:37:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 14, 2019, 06:08:00 PM
Well WV sure put NC State in their place Spicey.
Yeah, I guess they made adjustments in the 2nd half. I'll take it. But they still won't beat Kansas. Not after seeing what they did on the road at BC :o
Well they did beat Kansas.
Texas will be there in two weeks for a match up of 1-0 Big 12 teams.
I just had to turn down tickets for that game :pinch:
It's my son's last year in youth football, so I don't want to miss anything. I'm also having to miss seeing the Bengals in London next month :mellow:
After the 1st half the "Win Probability" on ESPN has Wyoming with a 99% win vs UNLV. This strikes fear into the heart of any Wyo fan. We all hope for that 1% for the Cowboys, why can't it happen to the other side?
I watched the annual Big 10 "Is it basketball yet?" classic between Indiana and Michigan State. Indiana's kicker is named Logan Justus (the announcers pronounced it the same as "Justice.") I think if you have a name like that you have no choice but to go into law enforcement and become a loose cannon who doesn't play by the rules.
Quote from: PDH on September 28, 2019, 08:41:44 PM
After the 1st half the "Win Probability" on ESPN has Wyoming with a 99% win vs UNLV. This strikes fear into the heart of any Wyo fan. We all hope for that 1% for the Cowboys, why can't it happen to the other side?
Glad they managed to hold on there PDH!
Arizona opened up Pac-12 play with a win against UCLA.
What was interesting is that they did so without their starting QB, that Kalil Tate guy, or the starting RB (although Arizona is ridiculously deep at RB, so that was not as much a issue).
Gunnel, the RS FS did a nice job. He is a totally different kind of QB from Tate though.....
What was even better is that it looks like Marcel Yates has maybe figured *something* out about defence...
Do I hear the sounds of cautious optimism? :ph34r:
For two weeks til Huskies come to the desert.
Quote from: Valmy on September 30, 2019, 03:39:31 PM
Do I hear the sounds of cautious optimism? :ph34r:
Very, very cautious.
https://tucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/football/arizona-wildcats-qb-grant-gunnell-named-pac--freshman-of/article_ca70a194-e3ba-11e9-9f31-d307bb608ab4.html
Sorry, Gunnell is a true freshman, not redshirt.
29/44 for 352 and 1 TD, no turnovers. Not too shabby a start.
Nice game Spicey. West Virginia came out fired up and ready to pop. They really played well on both lines of scrimmage. Texas' much maligned defense was able to assert itself there for a bit in the second half and that was the defense.
Arizona gets another win, Kalil Tate comes back from injury and tosses 400 yards.
The defense looks, well, decent. It's weird.
I am sure Washington will bring us back to reality.
AFter losing to Hawaii, there wasn't much hope in Wildcat land. The defense was awful, and it looked like it would be another year of losing games 41-33.
But the Cats have won four straight, and what is more, have done so on the strength of a vastly improved defense. Not a great defense by any means, but a decent one.
Of course, it gets a lot tougher from here out:
Washington next week at home. That is a loss.
Then @USC. Another probably loss.
@Stanford? Hard to say. They don't look great this year, but winning on the road is hard.
Easy to see three straight losses. I think we will maybe sneak out a win against USC or Stanford, to sit at 5-3, 3-2.
Then Oregon State. 6-3, 4-2.
That would be pretty damn good considering how the year started.
@ORE Uggh, L
Utah. Toss up since we are at home
@ASU W, of course.
If we can pick up that Utah game, and then beat ASU at Arizona Stadium North, that leaves the Cats at 8-4, 6-3.
That would be a pretty damn good year considering how bad we were last year....
Iowa--Michigan was not exactly a continuous highlight reel.
I was just having a bit of a strange thought. During his coaching career, Woody Hayes was also a professor at Ohio State, and continued to teach there even after being fired as a coach. Is there any FBS head football coach or Division I head basketball coach now that actually teaches classes?
California passes law requiring colleges to allow their student athletes to profit off their likeness if they are able to.
https://www.si.com/college/2019/10/04/ncaa-fair-pay-to-play-act-name-likeness-image-laws
Law doesn't really change anything; anyone in the country can legally profit off of their image and likeness if they can find someone willing to pay for it. The trick is, you can't do it and retain NCAA eligibility.
Of course, it's not that simple. Overall, I'm fine with putting pressure on the NCAA to change its rules when it come to what they're calling NIL. OTOH, I'm opposed to paying college athletes, as required by the proposed bill in New York.
Yeah, the California law is classic legislative grandstanding; it requires California colleges to do what they already do. No athlete is required to accept a scholarship and abide by NCAA rules, it is entirely voluntary.
The NCAA's problem with bag men won't be solved by legalizing bag men.
Well, Washington kind of blew it there.
Maybe this game isn't quite the auto-L for the Cats I was thinking it was...
Quote from: Berkut on October 06, 2019, 03:33:19 PM
Well, Washington kind of blew it there.
Maybe this game isn't quite the auto-L for the Cats I was thinking it was...
Hah yes, yes they did. The uproar amongst Huskies fans is why they haven't been playing some highly touted Freshman and RSFreshman receivers over the wideouts who have been playing. Stanford has always been a tough game for Huskies as evidenced by last win in Palo Alto was in 2007.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 05, 2019, 10:50:44 PM
Iowa--Michigan was not exactly a continuous highlight reel.
I believe that I mentioned that as soon as Iowa hits the tough games, they are going to crumble like feta cheese.
Next week will be just as big of a treat, I'm sure. <_<
Wyoming rolled through the bye week, losing only two players - one to that horrible injury "personal issues" the other kicked off the team. At least there were no basketball injuries, skateboard falls, or being hit by a bison.
I just want to say Oklahoma is terrible and a blight upon civilization. It sucks more than any land has sucked before. May Oklahoma only know suffering and pain next Saturday.
Such harsh words for the motherland.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 07, 2019, 12:54:38 PM
Such harsh words for the motherland.
This week we are enemies -_-
By the way I would like to apologize for Florida for thinking they were over-rated trash. It was clearly Auburn that was over-rated trash :P
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2019, 12:36:15 PM
I just want to say Oklahoma is terrible and a blight upon civilization. It sucks more than any land has sucked before.
... which is why it was given to the natives? :unsure:
Quote from: Syt on October 07, 2019, 02:07:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2019, 12:36:15 PM
I just want to say Oklahoma is terrible and a blight upon civilization. It sucks more than any land has sucked before.
... which is why it was given to the natives? :unsure:
Oh no, it was fine then. But then we flooded it with people who turned into the world's biggest meth lab/trailer park. :mad:
Anyway my statements here are only with regards to the annual Texas-Oklahoma hatefest that ends with the game on Saturday. Actual reasons to hate Oklahoma are not applicable here, this is entirely petty and shallow hatred.
Disagree. Woodland > prairie.
Well that was rude.
Quote from: Berkut on October 13, 2019, 02:19:26 AM
Well that was rude.
i thought you guys were gonna take it the way that first half played out.
Quote from: katmai on October 13, 2019, 04:04:38 AM
Quote from: Berkut on October 13, 2019, 02:19:26 AM
Well that was rude.
i thought you guys were gonna take it the way that first half played out.
But then everyone woke up and realized that Arizona isn't actually that good.
But yeah, being up a FG after the mistakes of the first half was pretty encouraging.
This was a game that just reminds you that college sports are, at the end of the day, mostly about recruiting.
You can do ok if you recruit ok. If you go out and consistently get mostly 3 and some 4 star recruits, well, you will win about 65% of your games overall. You will beat up on non-conference opponents who live on 3 star guys, and you will win halfish of your games against your conference opponents who also recruit 3 and 4 star guys, and overall you will mostly lose against your opponents who recruit 4 and 5 star guys.
Being an Arizona fan makes this just crystal clear. Our football team has a year here or there where they do well, when some number of those 3 and 4 star recruits turn out to be 4 and occasionally 5 star players. But you won't have consistent success doing that. You will just be consistently...mediocre.
Our basketball team doesn't even look at 3 star recruits for the most part. We go after 4 and 5 star recruits, and we get them. Sure, some of those 5 star guys turn out to be 3 star players, but that's ok - by and large the ranking systems mostly work, and highly ranked recruits mostly turn into highly ranked players often enough that the elite programs mostly just lose to other elite programs.
Arizona football will never win a Rose Bowl living on middle BCS school recruiting. They will have occasional 7-9 win seasons, occasional 4 win seasons, and mostly sit around 6-7 wins. When the schools that can walk into a 5 star recruits living room and get their share of them show up, most of the time, the result will be as expected.
Is Washington a school that gets lots of 5 stars?
Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 13, 2019, 09:36:26 AM
Is Washington a school that gets lots of 5 stars?
Compared to Arizona, they are as long as they get any at all.
Quote from: Berkut on October 13, 2019, 09:29:49 AM
This was a game that just reminds you that college sports are, at the end of the day, mostly about recruiting.
Unless you are Kansas State coached by Bill Snyder.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 13, 2019, 09:36:26 AM
Is Washington a school that gets lots of 5 stars?
Washington competes with USC and Oregon for 5 star west coast talent.
And then all three lose out to SEC.
Berkie, I won't argue with your assessment. It only makes what Helton has done with talent he has recruited to USC even more astounding in their underwhelming performances.
Quote from: katmai on October 14, 2019, 02:43:47 AM
Berkie, I won't argue with your assessment. It only makes what Helton has done with talent he has recruited to USC even more astounding in their underwhelming performances.
Well sure. Having talent is a necessary, but not sufficient condition to consistent success. You can still manage to do badly despite it.
Again the Big 12 has had teams like TCU, Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and Iowa State all have success despite having shitty recruiting.
I mean the recruiting is not actually shitty, it just appears to be so by the recruiting rankings.
Recruits to Wyoming have lost a star after they sign...seriously, 3 star athletes sign at a Wyoming and on the boards they are suddenly 2 star. Now Wyoming is a black hole, that sucks the ability out of most of the football players who come there, but still...
Quote from: Valmy on October 14, 2019, 03:11:26 PM
Again the Big 12 has had teams like TCU, Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and Iowa State all have success despite having shitty recruiting.
I mean the recruiting is not actually shitty, it just appears to be so by the recruiting rankings.
I imagine that depends on how you define success.
Quote from: Valmy on October 14, 2019, 03:11:26 PM
Again the Big 12 has had teams like TCU, Baylor, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, and Iowa State all have success despite having shitty recruiting.
I mean the recruiting is not actually shitty, it just appears to be so by the recruiting rankings.
TCU, Baylor, and Iowa State are generally in the upper half (25-35) of P5 schools. Kansas State and Oklahoma State not so much, but they aren't true bottom-feeders like, say, Boston College.
There are,, by my count, 80 FBS teams with the 6 or more wins needed to become bowl eligible--exactly the number needed to fill all the bowl slots. But 1 of those is Missouri, which is on probation and banned from bowling this year. So unless Army beats Navy to get to 6 wins, we get to see a 5-7 team in a bowl game this year.
Quote from: dps on December 01, 2019, 11:39:01 AM
There are,, by my count, 80 FBS teams with the 6 or more wins needed to become bowl eligible--exactly the number needed to fill all the bowl slots. But 1 of those is Missouri, which is on probation and banned from bowling this year. So unless Army beats Navy to get to 6 wins, we get to see a 5-7 team in a bowl game this year.
The good news is that we are not going to see a 6 win Wyoming team not go to a bowl like last year. And of course we won't! Wyoming won 7 games even with a flood tide of injuries.
Harbaugh sure was rather pissy after losing to OSU. Again.
Quote from: Berkut on December 01, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Harbaugh sure was rather pissy after losing to OSU. Again.
about as prissy as Leach after 7th consecutive loss to Huskies in Apple cup
Quote from: katmai on December 01, 2019, 11:30:12 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 01, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Harbaugh sure was rather pissy after losing to OSU. Again.
about as prissy as Leach after 7th consecutive loss to Huskies in Apple cup
Leach is usually funny though.
Sumlin didn't seem to mind losing the Territorial Cup to ASU again at all.
Yeah. Leach went off on some local Spokane writer so clearly some past history played into it.
Quote from: Berkut on December 01, 2019, 11:51:53 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 01, 2019, 11:30:12 PM
Quote from: Berkut on December 01, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Harbaugh sure was rather pissy after losing to OSU. Again.
about as prissy as Leach after 7th consecutive loss to Huskies in Apple cup
Leach is usually funny though.
Sumlin didn't seem to mind losing the Territorial Cup to ASU again at all.
i was reading the buyout for Sumlin means he will likely get one more year to see what he can do?
Yeah, he isn't going anywhere.
I keep saying that firing Sumlin won't help anything, unless you have some kind of planned new coach who can do what nobody has ever done at Arizona - recruit better players.
The problem is not the coaching, the problem is the recruiting.
Quote from: Berkut on December 01, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Harbaugh sure was rather pissy after losing to OSU. Again.
He just hasn't heard that Michigan is a basketball school, now.
Chris Petersen stepping down as UW coach after bowl game. :o
Quote from: katmai on December 02, 2019, 02:07:29 PM
Chris Petersen stepping down as UW coach after bowl game. :o
Wow. Why? Just because this season was so disappointing, or more to it?
Quote from: Berkut on December 02, 2019, 02:42:27 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 02, 2019, 02:07:29 PM
Chris Petersen stepping down as UW coach after bowl game. :o
Wow. Why? Just because this season was so disappointing, or more to it?
No idea, they named Jimmy Lake who has been the DC last two years and DB coach since 2014 as the new HC. some talk that this has been planned out as sucession for a year and why Lake turned down Alabama DC last year.
Petersen is staying on in advisory role with UW athletics, but some people are wondering if he might go to USC??
It came as a shock to everybody. I have heard he is moving over to the administration side of things and is going to stop coaching entirely for at least awhile.
That makes it sound like it was a personal issue, if true. Maybe he is having health problems?
ESPN college football reporter Edward Aschoff, dies of pneumonia on his 34th birthday. :(
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/12/25/espn-reporter-dies-at-34-had-tweeted-about-baffling-illness/
Seriously, if you have the flu for more than a day or two go to the doctor. Trying to tough out a 103 fever is no way to die.
Quote from: Valmy on December 26, 2019, 09:36:49 PM
Seriously, if you have the flu for more than a day or two go to the doctor. Trying to tough out a 103 fever is no way to die.
:unsure:
Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 26, 2019, 09:38:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on December 26, 2019, 09:36:49 PM
Seriously, if you have the flu for more than a day or two go to the doctor. Trying to tough out a 103 fever is no way to die.
:unsure:
That is unfortunately not that unusual of an occurance.
Quote from: Valmy on December 26, 2019, 09:36:49 PM
Seriously, if you have the flu for more than a day or two go to the doctor. Trying to tough out a 103 fever is no way to die.
He went to a hospital early on and was on medication as I understand it.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 26, 2019, 06:57:36 PM
ESPN college football reporter Edward Aschoff, dies of pneumonia on his 34th birthday. :(
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/12/25/espn-reporter-dies-at-34-had-tweeted-about-baffling-illness/
Still has more life in him than the Miami football program.
it is really remarkable how devastating Clemson has been to Ohio State in their 4 meetings:
a 70s Gator Bowl: Clemson won, but the real impact was Woody Hayes got fired for punching a player
2014 Orange Bowl: Clemson won 40-34 - the least impactful of the 4 games
2015 playoffs: Clemson won 31-0
2019 playoffs: Clemson won 29-23
4 bowl games, a 4-0 record, two playoff wins, a BCS bowl game win, and a tarnished Woody Hayes legacy.
No need for a new thread yet, but word is in that Wyoming goes to Texas to play, September 16, 2023!
I am placing my order for chicken fried steak with Valmy right now.
Quote from: PDH on January 27, 2020, 06:02:04 PM
No need for a new thread yet, but word is in that Wyoming goes to Texas to play, September 16, 2023!
I am placing my order for chicken fried steak with Valmy right now.
:lol:
I was thinking about you when I saw that pop up on the schedule!
You are of course welcome to come back and visit chez Valmy once more! Just um...I have three more kids than previously.
Plenty of time to get a few more before the game.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 27, 2020, 07:17:15 PM
Plenty of time to get a few more before the game.
Yes but the baby factory is now permanently closed down.
Quote from: Valmy on January 27, 2020, 07:24:29 PM
Yes but the baby factory is now permanently closed down.
Is the factory closed or has the pipeline to the factory been permanently turned off?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 27, 2020, 07:28:38 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 27, 2020, 07:24:29 PM
Yes but the baby factory is now permanently closed down.
Is the factory closed or has the pipeline to the factory been permanently turned off?
The pipeline has been um...tied.