I saw this article (https://www.avclub.com/what-is-your-biggest-pop-culture-disappointment-1835108510) at The AV Club in the wake of the final episode of Game of Thrones. I was wondering how Languish would answer this; what book/game/movie/television show/whatever do you think was the biggest disappointment?
For me it was "Highlander 2: The Quickening," starring Sean Connery at a low point of his career and Christopher Lambert at a high point in his.
:P ;)
I was in college when it came out; a number of my friends were monster fans of the original movie. We had to wait a week after release because the one movie theater in Houghton, Michigan didn't release it until a week later and even the "Big" "City" of Marquette, Michigan didn't have a theater that played it as well. (Which turned out to be fortunate, Marquette was 100 miles over bad roads away. Highlander 2 was enough of a cinematic punch to the solar plexus as it was; journeying to see it would have been adding insult to injury.)
Star Wars episodes 1-3
Dungeons & Dragons: the movie :(
Matrix sequels
The Hobbit movies is my choice - I loved the LoTR movies, despite their various sins, seeing them in the theatre as the came out, and I have seen the extended versions more than once; and of course I was a huge fan of the books.
But the Hobbit movies were, sadly, tedious.
They amplified every flaw in the LoTR series, rather than those movies' virtues. Parts were boring and other parts were laughable, or sometimes both at once.
I went into these thinking how could this project go wrong? I mean, Jackson was already immersed in this universe ... I went in with high hopes.
I think it was Revenge of the Sith.
So, I went opening night to Phantom Menace - loved it on first watch, but quickly could see many flaws. But still, it had been 15+ years since the last Star Wars movie, so I couldn't really hate it. Attack of the Clones kind of dragged, but I liked the end battle with all of the clones, in particular when they start mixing in the Imperial March.
But Revenge of the Sith was supposed to be the big payoff. You actually get to see how Anakin turns into Darth Vader. How could you screw that up? Well George Lucas found a way. I remember apologizing to my then-girlfriend (now wife) for taking her to it.
Now I did go back to it a couple years ago with my kids. With suitably low expectations it wasn't that bad (it wasn't good, but not that bad). But in terms of disappointment felt at the time? Revenge of the Sith in the theatre was it.
Quote from: Caliga on June 19, 2019, 12:54:42 PM
Dungeons & Dragons: the movie :(
I had a friend who watched it in the theater and then called up our gaming group one at a time to tell us "I've suffered for all of us; don't see The Dungeons and Dragons Movie." I took his advice and have never seen it.
Quote from: Barrister on June 19, 2019, 12:57:17 PM
I think it was Revenge of the Sith.
So, I went opening night to Phantom Menace - loved it on first watch, but quickly could see many flaws. But still, it had been 15+ years since the last Star Wars movie, so I couldn't really hate it. Attack of the Clones kind of dragged, but I liked the end battle with all of the clones, in particular when they start mixing in the Imperial March.
But Revenge of the Sith was supposed to be the big payoff. You actually get to see how Anakin turns into Darth Vader. How could you screw that up? Well George Lucas found a way. I remember apologizing to my then-girlfriend (now wife) for taking her to it.
Now I did go back to it a couple years ago with my kids. With suitably low expectations it wasn't that bad (it wasn't good, but not that bad). But in terms of disappointment felt at the time? Revenge of the Sith in the theatre was it.
You must be a particularly optimistic person, to have gone into the
third prequel with high hopes. :D
Disappointment implies high expectations, and off the top of my head I have a few notable ones:
- The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
I very much enjoyed Jackson's adaptation of the books; as good an adaptation as one could hope for, despite some silliness and unnecessary changes. So I was looking forward to The Hobbit: AUJ. Watched it with a friend at the IMAX, in 48 FPS projection. I was rather astonished by how unremarkable it was. It captured some scenes of the books nicely, but it left almost no impression on me, and I still haven't seen the other two movies.
- Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
I was a big Star Wars nerd in the 80s/90s, far more so than today. A friend similarly so. So imagine my surprise when in June of 1999 he drove up to my apartment, picked me up and then drove with me to another friend. He had a VHS bootleg of TPM. The movie was out in the US, but Germany would have its official release 4 or 5 months later. Due to the magic of camcorders and the internet, though, almost anyone with a passing interest in the movie had seen it by that point. It was one of the last big blockbuster movies to have such a time delay between release in North American in Europe (delays of months or even of a year or more were not uncommon before - the idea of movies or TV shows premiering at the same time in the US and Germany was a pipe dream). Anyways, I had enjoyed the Special Editions, the first time I had seen the movies on the big screen, so I was hyped. And was left very underwhelmed. I partly put it down to the bad VHS copy of a shaky camcorder recording, but when I got the original home video release a year later this only partly changed. I don't hate the movie, but it left me very "meh."
- The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
I really loved Morrowind. I loved the lore, then openness, the story, the bizarre world it was set in. I didn't play through the main campaign till last year, but I spent a good chunk of time in the early 2000s roaming Vvardenfell, mostly just doing random exploring. When Oblivion was announced I was greatly looking forward to more of the same, but better and prettier. After a few hours with the game I was left rather disappointed. The game looked good, and the combat was fun for its time. But instead of the Ashlands and Mushroom forests of Morrowind I was now in a generic European medieval setting. Some of the quests were interesting, but I quickly dropped playing it. I still occasionally return to it in the hopes the spark catches, but it just doesn't.
- Gothic 3
I loved Gothic 1 and 2. Well designed quasi-open worlds (gated by hard enemies), a mature world that makes reasonable sense, and a fun adventure to go on. Yay! Gothic 3 promised an even larger world, more openness, and more of everything. After the small island there'd be the vast mainland with cities, and war, and stuff! Unfortunately, the developers bit off more than they could chew, and the publishers lost their patience. The released game was a hot mess. The "tutorial" dropped you in the middle of a huge fight between orcs and humans that was just ridiculously hard. Like in previous games, your underleveled hero could get NPCs to escort them along dangerous roads - only the NPCs were broken. For example, a ranged character would only defend himself if he took damage. Which sucked when he was attacked by melee enemies. Then there were basic, normally harmless enemies that could stun-lock you to death. The game was a broken mess. Shortly after release the devs and publisher parted ways. I think the game eventually got fixed, not least thanks to fan patches. Piranha Bytes went on to keep making the same games again and again - Fantasy setting, hero gets three factions to join. Rinse repeat: Risen 1-3, Elex, ... JoWood released a sequel-in-name-only that was panned by fans and critics, and later went under.
Of these, I think Gothic 3 stung the most, not least because of the aftermath. PB had proven themselves passionate, innovative developers before, releasing relatively unconventional RPGs. But since G2 and 3 there has been little innovation except for new settings ("Pirates/Carribean fantasy!" "Post-apocalyptic fantasy!"). JoWood went under - they were never great publishers but tended to have interesting titles. Their brand was absorbed by THQ Nordic - again, they release interesting, but usually a bit janky games ... and they have signed Piranha Bytes again.
Quote from: Savonarola on June 19, 2019, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 19, 2019, 12:54:42 PM
Dungeons & Dragons: the movie :(
I had a friend who watched it in the theater and then called up our gaming group one at a time to tell us "I've suffered for all of us; don't see The Dungeons and Dragons Movie." I took his advice and have never seen it.
I saw the movie in the theater with a girl I was dating (it was her pick). Fucking hell, was that an aweful movie. :D
I had low expectations, though, so I wasn't *that* disappointed.
Oh, honorary mention: The new Conan movie with Jason Momoa. I think Momoa was great as Conan. And the part with his childhood, and the heist on the prison are not bad. Everything after that, however, was horrible. I guess my disappointment came from going in with low expectation, enjoying the first half hour or so, and then being treated to utter drivel.
I missed the glory that was Dungeons & Dragons: the Movie.
I can't say the Highlander sequel was a huge disappointment to me, for the simple reason that by the time I got around to seeing it, I had already heard that it stunk (I saw it and found it stunk even more than I expected, but still).
Quote from: Malthus on June 19, 2019, 01:09:22 PM
You must be a particularly optimistic person, to have gone into the third prequel with high hopes. :D
Well for a trilogy that was supposed to be about Anakin's fall into evil... the first two movies had barely shown anything yet. Phantom Menace just shows him as a kid - he isn't evil at all. Second movie at least he's an adult, but shows him as a bit petulant and he falls in love with Padme. Revenge of the Sith was where the meat of the story was going to happen.
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
Star Trek movie reboots. I was never a huge Star Wars fan so I haven't been that disappointed by the prequels, but the Abrams retread is just terrible.
Crystal skull and Civ3.
Civ 2 was a masterpiece that improved on a masterpiece. Civ 2 base game and mods is provably my most played game. Civ 3 and for that matter all civs afterward stank ferociously.
Quote from: Threviel on June 19, 2019, 01:53:14 PM
Crystal skull and Civ3.
Civ 2 was a masterpiece that improved on a masterpiece. Civ 2 base game and mods is provably my most played game. Civ 3 and for that matter all civs afterward stank ferociously.
I had forgotten about Civ 3. Civ and Civ 2 were both so great that I went in with super high expectation and was so underwhelmed that never touched another Civ game.
For me I think it was probably Star Trek: The Motion Picture. It wasn't really a bad movie, per se, but God was it sssllllllooooooowww. And it really had nothing original; I at least wouldn't have been excited to know ahead of time that I was paying out money to see an extremely padded version of the episode "The Changeling" with a couple of new characters that were given major roles, but no reason for us to care about them. But I didn't know that going in, so I was excited about it.
The Phantom Menace is a worse movie in almost every way than ST:TMP, but I wasn't as much of a fanboy at 37 as I was at 17. Plus, one of the two advantages The Phantom Menace has over ST:TMP is that it's much faster paced, so you see its flaws more in retrospect. (The other advantage it has is the special effects.)
Quote from: Savonarola on June 19, 2019, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: Threviel on June 19, 2019, 01:53:14 PM
Crystal skull and Civ3.
Civ 2 was a masterpiece that improved on a masterpiece. Civ 2 base game and mods is provably my most played game. Civ 3 and for that matter all civs afterward stank ferociously.
I had forgotten about Civ 3. Civ and Civ 2 were both so great that I went in with super high expectation and was so underwhelmed that never touched another Civ game.
Ohh, if we're bringing computer games into the discussion, forget any movie--my biggest disappointment was Master of Orion 3.
Good call on Star Trek. Me too.
On another note, something that lived up to the hype an also brought us all together is Europa Universalis.
Quote from: Threviel on June 19, 2019, 03:00:28 PM
On another note, something that lived up to the hype an also brought us all together is Europa Universalis.
Don't mess up a perfectly good bitching thread.
Quote from: Savonarola on June 19, 2019, 12:44:30 PM
I saw this article (https://www.avclub.com/what-is-your-biggest-pop-culture-disappointment-1835108510) at The AV Club in the wake of the final episode of Game of Thrones. I was wondering how Languish would answer this; what book/game/movie/television show/whatever do you think was the biggest disappointment?
For me it was "Highlander 2: The Quickening," starring Sean Connery at a low point of his career and Christopher Lambert at a high point in his.
:P ;)
I was in college when it came out; a number of my friends were monster fans of the original movie. We had to wait a week after release because the one movie theater in Houghton, Michigan didn't release it until a week later and even the "Big" "City" of Marquette, Michigan didn't have a theater that played it as well. (Which turned out to be fortunate, Marquette was 100 miles over bad roads away. Highlander 2 was enough of a cinematic punch to the solar plexus as it was; journeying to see it would have been adding insult to injury.)
Rob Roy.
I was a fan of the Disney tv series when I was young (so looong ago... :( ), and was utterly disapointed by the Liam Neeson's movie. What a crappy movie. Even the end duel did nothing to redeem the movie.
Quote from: dps on June 19, 2019, 02:50:29 PM
Ohh, if we're bringing computer games into the discussion, forget any movie--my biggest disappointment was Master of Orion 3.
:yes:
Maybe not the biggest, but it was big, and it's a good story...
It's 1995 in Winnipeg. The Manitoba Theatre Company has a special showing of Shakespeare's Hamlet, starring... Keanu Reeves! Now Keanu must have agreed to this at least a year in advance, when he was a B-list movie star known for Bill and Ted, or maybe Bram Stoker's Dracula, but in 1994 a little movie called Speed came out which propelled him to super-stardom. But he was a good sport, honoured his contract, and came to Winnipeg.
So I get a ticket, sit down to watch... and he was terrible. I mean, in a few actions scenes he did very well (he is an action star after all), but To Be or Not To Be was wooden as could be. I recall he just kind of stood there and said it in an almost monotone.
So there we go - big movie star bombs in local theatre show. Except of course he didn't bomb - by strength of Keanu himself every show was sold out, and went for big bucks through scalpers.
Quote from: Threviel on June 19, 2019, 03:00:28 PM
On another note, something that lived up to the hype an also brought us all together is Europa Universalis.
There was hype? I saw a box in a store. I'd never heard of the game, but the theme was right up my alley. I went home, researched it, then went back and bought it.
Star Wars Episode I raped my childhood. I recognized that everything I believed in and loved was just a gimmick to make money off of me. But a lot of people have this one.
Three others:
1) Eyes Wide Shut: I was in college and a film studies friend had convinced me Kubrick was the greatest director ever. So I was super excited to see this film. As it progressed, I was bored. I left thinking the problem must be with me: I must just not understand the greatness I just witnessed. After days of contemplation, I realized the truth that deep down I probably knew walking out of the theater: the movie blew, and Kubrick was a man capable of making shitty movies like everyone else. Our heroes are fallible, and more likely than not had their originial brilliance dulled by their success (if they were ever brilliant in the first place).
2) Bases Loaded for Nintendo: I got this game as a kid, and quickly mastered thrashing the computer. As many in my generation, I was a loyal subscriber to Nintendo Power. In Nintendo Power, there was a rave review for this game, and it mentioned that if you won the pennant in single player mode, "there was a celebration that made it all worthwhile". The problem was that to win the pennant you had to go through something insane like an 80 game season. But Nintendo Power said the celebration would make it worthwhile, so I did what was only logical and played out the 80 game season: finishing something like 77-3 and probably in first place by 25 games. But I geared up for this awesome celebration: which was a parade by 5 pixel guys that just kept repeating---I'd do a better job explaining but it is so lame it makes me angry to write about it. I realized that Nintendo Power was probably full of shit, and later realized it may not have been a fully independent source for reporting on Nintendo games. From this I learned to never trust the media.
Fuck Nintendo Power.
3) Pete Rose. I started keeping a journal at the time the first rumors of Pete Rose betting on baseball came out. The journal lasted about 2 weeks, but I found it years later and I devoted about half of it to rants about how wrong it was people were spreading lies about Pete Rose and that a man like Pete Rose should be trusted. Fuck you Pete Rose for ruining my innocence.
Well, yes, there was hype. Perhaps only to the few on the forum, but I remember reading every word and listening to every rumour. There were long discussions ob the different release dates and languages and Sapura made some really good AARs. I have never been so hyped for a game.
For albums I thought Guns N' Roses "Use Your Illusion" Parts I and II were a disappointment. It was released at a time in my life where two cassettes (yes, cassettes) were a major investment for me. There are some stand out songs on the albums and there's probably a good album trying to get out, but there's nowhere near enough material to justify two complete albums.
Also The Smashing Pumpkin's "Machina/The Machines of God" was a let down. I thought "Adore" was underappreciated, I liked it quite a bit; but "Machina" felt like a single followed by fourteen tracks of fill. (Though by that point I could afford CDs, so I wasn't as disappointed.)
The Eagles' The Long Run.
All of the Wing Commander games after II.
Ultima 7 and the rest.
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 19, 2019, 04:15:08 PM
All of the Wing Commander games after II.
Ultima 7 and the rest.
:huh:
I never played WCII, but 3 and 4 were good fun.
The Last Jedi. GoT seasons 7 and 8. Fallout 4. Dexter the last couple of seasons. Too many computer games to list.Most egregious was a d&d game called I think pool of radiance. It wiped my hard disk. :wacko:
Michael Jackson when the allegations started coming out in the 90s.
Heroes after the first 2/3rds of the first season. I stopped watching midway through the second season and only regretted not stopping earlier.
Languish, it had all positives I liked and good reviews/feedback and yet some how it never quite took off with the mass of the public. :hmm:
Star wars 1-2, Crystal skull, that piece of shit sitcom John Cleese is doing, EU3, World Cup 2010.
I'd have to say Fallout 3. It was just too shallow and sanitary after the first two games. It later became worth playing after mods came out, but I was very disappointed with the game that was in the box.
Highlander 2 was a real bad time. And I payed 1$ to see it at a seedy revue cinema on Granville in Vancouver. Huge waste of a loonie. I think I may have saved the day by committing transit fraud and riding home of the Skytrain for free.
How the Star Wars franchise turned out was a bigger disappointment. I have belatedly decided the original trilogy really wasn't that good after all. I don't care.
Gave up on ASOFAI a long time ago. Perversely enjoyed the recent GoT trainwreck. Payback for me.
Joe Strummer's career post Clash was largely bad: he did a lot of uneven soundtrack work for oddball movies. I even saw him play withe Pogues , replacing Shane McGowan. It struck me as a Pogues/Strummer cover band. That hurt. That said , his last album before he died was very damn good.
The Rolling Stones have been mailing it in for decades, album wise. They can still play live with power though.
NHL Hockey is boring. It used to be a beautiful game of skill and speed and characters. Now it is superspeed, robots and planned plays. The shoot out (gah) is often the best part.
Robert Anton Wilson. Illuminatus, Cosmic Trigger etal. He was a dull and rambling grey man on stage.
Pop is supposed to be disposable, to be replaced by other moments, so it is all to be expected anyway.
Highlander II, unimaginatively subtitled le Retour in French (the return) I managed to avoid though most of my friends watched it and were utterly disappointed. First Highlander was very popular back and re-runs on TV were still a big thing.
Anybody tried the alternative Renegade cut? Supposed to fix problems, and bring new ones according to critics.
As for me, obviously Episode I. Watched in a small cinema specialised in not so recent movies, but not classics, say movies just no longer screened in mainstream commercial cinemas t 1 or 2 months ago. I arrived late and was presented with a dubbed version contrary to what the movie guide said. This was what I was fearing when I saw a mostly family audience. Said cinema no longer exists sadly due to a family dispute AFAIK.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull too, even at 2.5 € (special cinema fest prize) that was too much. Watched it again at the cinémathèque as the final part of the Indy marathon during the Spielberg cycle. While the first 3 were full (400 people) only 40 people remained for the last one. Still a disaster.
As for music, Load of Metallica. Obviously, some metalheads were complaining since Nothing Else matters but this was quite the Schism. I still can't bring myself to hear it, unlike later albums.
No other traumas or rape of childhood/youth come to my mind. Yeah, Master of Orion III was a disappointment but nothing traumatic.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 20, 2019, 06:07:57 AM
Yeah, Master of Orion III was a disappointment but nothing traumatic.
The thing about MOO3 was that I could have seen 3 or 4 movies (even at full ticket prices) for what I paid for MOO3.
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Quote from: Duque de Bragança on June 20, 2019, 06:07:57 AM
Yeah, Master of Orion III was a disappointment but nothing traumatic.
The thing about MOO3 was that I could have seen 3 or 4 movies (even at full ticket prices) for what I paid for MOO3.
Well, aren't we comparing apples and oranges a bit there? All right, I confess getting rid of it and getting some money back. :P
Don't remember if i bought it online, feverishly waiting for it to arrive or if it was in an import Mac videogame shop. :hmm:
Definitely the Star Wars prequels, since I was personally a HUGE Star Wars geek. I remember that it took me five (5!) viewings to finally accept that Phantom Menace was a piece of shit. The third Indy movie was similar, but being older and wiser this time I only needed one viewing.
A Song of Fire and Ice is "on watch" for making this category. GoT - the show - ironically makes both the biggest surprises (as to how good it was at the beginning, and having such geeky stuff becoming a worldwide sensation) and biggest disappointments list.
Quote from: celedhring on June 20, 2019, 07:02:33 AM
Definitely the Star Wars prequels, since I was personally a HUGE Star Wars geek. I remember that it took me five (5!) viewings to finally accept that Phantom Menace was a piece of shit. The third Indy movie was similar, but being older and wiser this time I only needed one viewing.
A Song of Fire and Ice is "on watch" for making this category. GoT - the show - ironically makes both the biggest surprises (as to how good it was at the beginning, and having such geeky stuff becoming a worldwide sensation) and biggest disappointments list.
Third Indiana Jones movie, huh? And then you aged backward before seeing Phantom Menace. :hmm:
I expect ASOIAF not to be finished at all. :(
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Quote from: celedhring on June 20, 2019, 07:02:33 AM
Definitely the Star Wars prequels, since I was personally a HUGE Star Wars geek. I remember that it took me five (5!) viewings to finally accept that Phantom Menace was a piece of shit. The third Indy movie was similar, but being older and wiser this time I only needed one viewing.
A Song of Fire and Ice is "on watch" for making this category. GoT - the show - ironically makes both the biggest surprises (as to how good it was at the beginning, and having such geeky stuff becoming a worldwide sensation) and biggest disappointments list.
Third Indiana Jones movie, huh? And then you aged backward before seeing Phantom Menace. :hmm:
I expect ASOIAF not to be finished at all. :(
Fourth, me bad. I got "there's only three Indy movies" ingrained in my soul, hence my mistake.
Star Wars Prequels. That was kind of a surreal experience sitting there in the movie theater with the realization slowly dawning on me that what I was seeing was, in fact, bad. Then Tim convinced me to see the third one because it supposedly redeemed the prequels...but no it was also really bad. Thanks Tim.
Neverwinter Nights from Bioware. That game was a rude awakening and let me know the short golden age of RPGs I was enjoying was coming to an end. I mean I guess to some people it wasn't a bad game but it was made with a different spirit and with a different audience in mind than peak nerd Baldur's Gate. The games they made later were better but they were all designed for a wider audience in mind. The infinity engine era was fun while it lasted though.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on June 20, 2019, 07:47:31 AM
I expect ASOIAF not to be finished at all. :(
Well, most likely not by Martin. He apparently doesn't know how to get there.
Quote from: Barrister on June 19, 2019, 03:33:21 PM
Maybe not the biggest, but it was big, and it's a good story...
It's 1995 in Winnipeg. The Manitoba Theatre Company has a special showing of Shakespeare's Hamlet, starring... Keanu Reeves! Now Keanu must have agreed to this at least a year in advance, when he was a B-list movie star known for Bill and Ted, or maybe Bram Stoker's Dracula, but in 1994 a little movie called Speed came out which propelled him to super-stardom. But he was a good sport, honoured his contract, and came to Winnipeg.
So I get a ticket, sit down to watch... and he was terrible. I mean, in a few actions scenes he did very well (he is an action star after all), but To Be or Not To Be was wooden as could be. I recall he just kind of stood there and said it in an almost monotone.
So there we go - big movie star bombs in local theatre show. Except of course he didn't bomb - by strength of Keanu himself every show was sold out, and went for big bucks through scalpers.
Whoa... Count Drock-ula... :D
IRC the review of Reeves as Hamlet, was that he was the perfect Hamlet, because he really was Hamlet; post-adolescent, indecisive, uncomprehending, etc.
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Quote from: Eddie Teach on June 20, 2019, 07:47:31 AM
I expect ASOIAF not to be finished at all. :(
Well, most likely not by Martin. He apparently doesn't know how to get there.
And frankly I have zero interest in seeing somebody other than Martin finish it. Either he finishes it or I would rather it remain unfinished.
But I guess with that kind of money to be made somebody would.
I went into "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" with low expectations, and still managed to be disappointed. That was a bad movie.
Of the prequels "When Clones Attack!" remains the biggest disappointment to me. The mystery is uninteresting and the love story is unbelievable; yet it ends with one of the greatest B-movie climaxes ever, in which Count Dracula and a muppet battle for the fate of the universe with laser swords. Any story which had led to that climax should have been great; that the ending isn't really related to the story just underscores how bad the rest of the movie was. I didn't go in with high expectations, though, so Highlander II was a bigger disappointment for me.
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2019, 08:08:16 AM
Star Wars Prequels. That was kind of a surreal experience sitting there in the movie theater with the realization slowly dawning on me that what I was seeing was, in fact, bad. Then Tim convinced me to see the third one because it supposedly redeemed the prequels...but no it was also really bad. Thanks Tim.
Well, I love dissing Tim as much as the next guy, but to be fair, as I recall, Seedy was pushing that line, too.
Quote from: dps on June 20, 2019, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2019, 08:08:16 AM
Star Wars Prequels. That was kind of a surreal experience sitting there in the movie theater with the realization slowly dawning on me that what I was seeing was, in fact, bad. Then Tim convinced me to see the third one because it supposedly redeemed the prequels...but no it was also really bad. Thanks Tim.
Well, I love dissing Tim as much as the next guy, but to be fair, as I recall, Seedy was pushing that line, too.
It was on Tim's recommendation that I went and saw it. I don't recall if anybody else felt the same way.
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2019, 08:08:16 AM
Star Wars Prequels. That was kind of a surreal experience sitting there in the movie theater with the realization slowly dawning on me that what I was seeing was, in fact, bad.
I stood in line (I really hate lines) to get in to watch the first showing. When the Force was reduced to a midichlorians blood count the the whole theatre groaned. A collective WTF moment.
I had no positive expectations for the prequels because I had seen Return of the Jedi. The Star Wars movie series was really only two movies long, with a bunch of pathetic efforts to make lighting strike the third time.
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Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2019, 08:08:16 AM
Star Wars Prequels. That was kind of a surreal experience sitting there in the movie theater with the realization slowly dawning on me that what I was seeing was, in fact, bad. Then Tim convinced me to see the third one because it supposedly redeemed the prequels...but no it was also really bad. Thanks Tim.
Well, I love dissing Tim as much as the next guy, but to be fair, as I recall, Seedy was pushing that line, too.
Ladies and Gents,
I have been asked to type the following statment
"DPS, you need to correct your motherfucking facts, i did NOT endorse anything remotely related to the prequels. Lumping me in with Tim saying episode 3 redeemed the series is a lying sack of dead wet fetuses.
Regards,
CdM"
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Quote from: dps on June 20, 2019, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2019, 08:08:16 AM
Star Wars Prequels. That was kind of a surreal experience sitting there in the movie theater with the realization slowly dawning on me that what I was seeing was, in fact, bad. Then Tim convinced me to see the third one because it supposedly redeemed the prequels...but no it was also really bad. Thanks Tim.
Well, I love dissing Tim as much as the next guy, but to be fair, as I recall, Seedy was pushing that line, too.
Ladies and Gents,
I have been asked to type the following statment
"DPS, you need to correct your motherfucking facts, i did NOT endorse anything remotely related to the prequels. Lumping me in with Tim saying episode 3 redeemed the series is a lying sack of dead wet fetuses.
Regards,
CdM"
:rolleyes:
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Quote from: dps on June 20, 2019, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2019, 08:08:16 AM
Star Wars Prequels. That was kind of a surreal experience sitting there in the movie theater with the realization slowly dawning on me that what I was seeing was, in fact, bad. Then Tim convinced me to see the third one because it supposedly redeemed the prequels...but no it was also really bad. Thanks Tim.
Well, I love dissing Tim as much as the next guy, but to be fair, as I recall, Seedy was pushing that line, too.
Ladies and Gents,
I have been asked to type the following statment
"DPS, you need to correct your motherfucking facts, i did NOT endorse anything remotely related to the prequels. Lumping me in with Tim saying episode 3 redeemed the series is a lying sack of dead wet fetuses.
Regards,
CdM"
We have had a shortage of dead fetus comments over here for awhile :P
Quote from: garbon on June 21, 2019, 01:00:03 AM
:rolleyes:
Why did I know this was going to be the Garbon response.??
Quote from: garbon on June 21, 2019, 01:00:03 AM
Quote from: katmai on June 21, 2019, 12:10:27 AM
Quote from: dps on June 20, 2019, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 20, 2019, 08:08:16 AM
Star Wars Prequels. That was kind of a surreal experience sitting there in the movie theater with the realization slowly dawning on me that what I was seeing was, in fact, bad. Then Tim convinced me to see the third one because it supposedly redeemed the prequels...but no it was also really bad. Thanks Tim.
Well, I love dissing Tim as much as the next guy, but to be fair, as I recall, Seedy was pushing that line, too.
Ladies and Gents,
I have been asked to type the following statment
"DPS, you need to correct your motherfucking facts, i did NOT endorse anything remotely related to the prequels. Lumping me in with Tim saying episode 3 redeemed the series is a lying sack of dead wet fetuses.
Regards,
CdM"
:rolleyes:
Agree. Say it yourself.
Yeah don't be a little bitch.
He can't log in here? we've had this discussion before.
I'm sure moldy could reset his password. Or he could set up a new account. Excuses, excuses. :P
Quote from: Syt on June 21, 2019, 01:52:36 AM
I'm sure moldy could reset his password. Or he could set up a new account. Excuses, excuses. :P
It would have to be a new account i think as he set his email to something seedyqesue
Quote from: katmai on June 21, 2019, 01:55:06 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 21, 2019, 01:52:36 AM
I'm sure moldy could reset his password. Or he could set up a new account. Excuses, excuses. :P
It would have to be a new account i think as he set his email to something seedyqesue
So the better alternative is some lame beyond the grave posts?
I'm pretty sure he said something along the lines of "Now this is what I've been waiting to see--Anakin Skywalker leading a violent, fascistic purge of the Jedi". But maybe that wasn't a recommendation he made after seeing it; maybe it was what he thought he was going to get to see based on the previews.
SimCity 2012
NHL 95 for SNES. Set against the backdrop of our entering adolescence, my best friend and I were obsessed with NHL 94. We would have practically weekly sleepover is at my house, where we played NHL 94 for hours on end .
When we heard that NHL 95 was going to incorporate player creation and a season mode, we were stoked, and hashed out all the possibilities of what that would mean in the months leading up to its release .
However, our friendship was also gradually unraveling, and it may have been that our shared love of NHL 94 was increasingly the glue that held it together. The reason was that he was entering the path of cool stoner dropout, and I the way of inveterate nerdom.
Sadly when the big day came and it hit the shelves, the gameplay turned out to be completely different from its predecessor, and worse in just about every way imaginable. All our planning disappeared into thin air and, as you would expect, that was pretty much around the time that our 5 years of close friendship did too.
Master and Commander: Far Side of the World. I am the biggest OBrian fanboi in the world, and the trailers looked great. Movie was a massive letdown.
Half-life episode 3. Still waiting on that one.
Quote from: katmai on June 21, 2019, 01:55:06 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 21, 2019, 01:52:36 AM
I'm sure moldy could reset his password. Or he could set up a new account. Excuses, excuses. :P
It would have to be a new account i think as he set his email to something seedyqesue
An admin could change his password to 12345, letting him log in, change his email adress, change his password.
We have no admins anymore. :P
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 21, 2019, 11:20:57 PM
Master and Commander: Far Side of the World. I am the biggest OBrian fanboi in the world, and the trailers looked great. Movie was a massive letdown.
I think it's a great movie, but tastes are like assholes and all that...
Quote from: katmai on June 22, 2019, 01:52:14 AM
We have no admins anymore. :P
And you're basically the last moderator left who is even semi-active.
If Languish dies, it will be for lack of people who have control of the board. :P
Quote from: katmai on June 22, 2019, 01:52:14 AM
We have no admins anymore. :P
Someone could leave a message for Vm in the general issues pinned thread about this, as he often reads that one and responds in good order.
Quote from: mongers on June 22, 2019, 07:25:32 AM
Quote from: katmai on June 22, 2019, 01:52:14 AM
We have no admins anymore. :P
Someone could leave a message for Vm in the general issues pinned thread about this, as he often reads that one and responds in good order.
I'm just teasing mongers, i talk to Moldy on Facebook, that's how Saladin got back in, and we've set it up for Lucidor to come back as well.
Quote from: katmai on June 22, 2019, 07:48:16 AM
Quote from: mongers on June 22, 2019, 07:25:32 AM
Quote from: katmai on June 22, 2019, 01:52:14 AM
We have no admins anymore. :P
Someone could leave a message for Vm in the general issues pinned thread about this, as he often reads that one and responds in good order.
I'm just teasing mongers, i talk to Moldy on Facebook, that's how Saladin got back in, and we've set it up for Lucidor to come back as well.
:cool:
Thanks, Vm and you guys do a good job.
Interesting that old timers are returning.
Quote from: celedhring on June 22, 2019, 03:10:36 AM
I think it's a great movie, but tastes are like assholes and all that...
Have you read the books?
Quote from: Barrister on June 19, 2019, 03:33:21 PM
Maybe not the biggest, but it was big, and it's a good story...
It's 1995 in Winnipeg. The Manitoba Theatre Company has a special showing of Shakespeare's Hamlet, starring... Keanu Reeves! Now Keanu must have agreed to this at least a year in advance, when he was a B-list movie star known for Bill and Ted, or maybe Bram Stoker's Dracula, but in 1994 a little movie called Speed came out which propelled him to super-stardom. But he was a good sport, honoured his contract, and came to Winnipeg.
So I get a ticket, sit down to watch... and he was terrible. I mean, in a few actions scenes he did very well (he is an action star after all), but To Be or Not To Be was wooden as could be. I recall he just kind of stood there and said it in an almost monotone.
So there we go - big movie star bombs in local theatre show. Except of course he didn't bomb - by strength of Keanu himself every show was sold out, and went for big bucks through scalpers.
Hamlet: Get thee to a nunnery... woah! FarewellThat does sound like "I Hate Hamlet"; life imitates art.
Edit: Minus the ghost of John Barrymore, of course. Obviously the ghost of Buster Keaton gives Keanu acting advice:
Now, no matter what, never show emotion.
Quote from: Savonarola on June 22, 2019, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 19, 2019, 03:33:21 PM
Maybe not the biggest, but it was big, and it's a good story...
It's 1995 in Winnipeg. The Manitoba Theatre Company has a special showing of Shakespeare's Hamlet, starring... Keanu Reeves! Now Keanu must have agreed to this at least a year in advance, when he was a B-list movie star known for Bill and Ted, or maybe Bram Stoker's Dracula, but in 1994 a little movie called Speed came out which propelled him to super-stardom. But he was a good sport, honoured his contract, and came to Winnipeg.
So I get a ticket, sit down to watch... and he was terrible. I mean, in a few actions scenes he did very well (he is an action star after all), but To Be or Not To Be was wooden as could be. I recall he just kind of stood there and said it in an almost monotone.
So there we go - big movie star bombs in local theatre show. Except of course he didn't bomb - by strength of Keanu himself every show was sold out, and went for big bucks through scalpers.
Hamlet: Get thee to a nunnery... woah! Farewell
That does sound like "I Hate Hamlet"; life imitates art.
Edit: Minus the ghost of John Barrymore, of course. Obviously the ghost of Buster Keaton gives Keanu acting advice: Now, no matter what, never show emotion.
Time for you to discover Keanu's Québecker accent in Youngblood. :) Great goalie.