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Title: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on July 16, 2009, 10:39:19 AM
It is an Ibanez SR200 (4 strings).

I have been practicing some very basic stuff I gathered off youtube, and amateur musician friends fetched me guitar pro and a handful of tabs.

Any pointers for good beginner lessons/tabs? My ultimate goal is kind of modest, I want to be able to sit down with some very amateur friends of mine and play simple songs, thats what they have been doing but the bass player was never really into it and sold his gear. Figuring I always wanted a guitar on my wall, I bought this.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Josquius on July 16, 2009, 10:44:54 AM
Joy Division has awesome basslines, they are really prominent in many of the songs with the guitar tending to be just a minor part.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: The Brain on July 16, 2009, 10:52:01 AM
I know nothing about bass (the instrument).
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: HVC on July 16, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
Guitar? Your transformation into a Gypsy is complete :P
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 16, 2009, 11:03:45 AM
Boston probably has the simplest base lines of any band ever.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Caliga on July 16, 2009, 11:03:52 AM
I think "Through the Fire and Flames" by Dragonforce is a good starting song. :)
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: The Brain on July 16, 2009, 11:08:49 AM
This is a good warm-up routine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vdJvHE8qxA
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: MadImmortalMan on July 16, 2009, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 16, 2009, 11:03:52 AM
I think "Through the Fire and Flames" by Dragonforce is a good starting song. :)

:P
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Syt on July 16, 2009, 11:10:08 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 16, 2009, 11:03:52 AM
I think "Through the Fire and Flames" by Dragonforce is a good starting song. :)

:yes:
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on July 16, 2009, 11:12:05 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 16, 2009, 11:03:52 AM
I think "Through the Fire and Flames" by Dragonforce is a good starting song. :)


Veeery funny :P
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: saskganesh on July 16, 2009, 11:34:03 AM
all your bass belongs to us.

... learn some chuck berry-style bass lines and suddenly the world of garage rock is open to you. beatles, stones, who, purple, pistols, clash and so on.

so let willie dixon be your mentor. pretty easy shit to figure out once you know three chords. have someone show you. just play along to your tunes, you can pick up a lot fast. but it's also good to play with other people though so you can keep the timing. 4/4 is easy though if you can count.

later you can learn about donald duck dunn and start to get your funk out.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Pedrito on July 16, 2009, 12:30:41 PM
The Police have good, if not always easy, bass lines in their songs.

Queen's Another One Bites the Dust is a classic of bass guitar learning

L.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Razgovory on July 16, 2009, 01:33:32 PM
So now you can play with fish.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: The Brain on July 16, 2009, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 16, 2009, 01:33:32 PM
So now you can play with fish.

Beats sleeping with them. :(
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: PDH on July 16, 2009, 07:24:46 PM
If I remember right, Manowar has some good beginning bass parts.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 17, 2009, 02:15:21 PM
Black Sabbath - NIB; it's both easy and like Another One Bites the Dust, people would actually recognize where the bass part is from.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Scipio on July 17, 2009, 02:35:35 PM
I was going to mention The Police, but I see it's been done already.  Sting's solo stuff has good bass lines, too, like most pop punk/New Wave acts.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: syk on July 17, 2009, 03:22:22 PM
Nirvana - Come As You Are
Cure - Fascination Street
were my 2 first
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 17, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
If you go the Nirvana route, never, never, never play "Smells Like Teen Spirit." The bass line is even more boring to play than the guitar line.

If you work up some calluses, Red Hot Chili Peppers stuff is fast, but usually not as hard as it sounds, so it makes for good show-off material. Just make sure you've got those calluses- ALL RHCP bass lines are slap, and meant to be played pretty aggressively.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: saskganesh on July 17, 2009, 04:47:28 PM
if a base line is boring, just turn up the volume, add some distortion and play it a bit faster. then you become a mean metal machine and really, that's pretty fun.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Caliga on July 17, 2009, 07:04:44 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on July 17, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
If you go the Nirvana route, never, never, never play "Smells Like Teen Spirit." The bass line is even more boring to play than the guitar line.

If you work up some calluses, Red Hot Chili Peppers stuff is fast, but usually not as hard as it sounds, so it makes for good show-off material. Just make sure you've got those calluses- ALL RHCP bass lines are slap, and meant to be played pretty aggressively.
Smells Like Teen Spirit is easy as hell to learn, though.  That was the first "cool" thing I learned to play back when I played guitar.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Caliga on July 17, 2009, 07:11:30 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2009, 11:12:05 AM
Quote from: Caliga on July 16, 2009, 11:03:52 AM
I think "Through the Fire and Flames" by Dragonforce is a good starting song. :)


Veeery funny :P
^_^

I saw a thing on YouTube once with Herman Li playing Guitar Hero III and he couldn't even beat the song in the game.  IIRC he repeatedly wiped out like right at the beginning.  I think the furthest I ever got thru it was like 36%.  :blush:
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on July 20, 2009, 04:21:25 AM
After some introductory stuff off from youtube, I am learning Another One Bites The Dust. Actually I have had an easier time playing it on my friend's "solo" guitar beacuse it's not that easy to switch fast those big-ass strings without distorting the sound.

But I am getting better, and quite liking it. :)
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: The Brain on July 20, 2009, 04:23:51 AM
Bitches are gonna be all over you.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 20, 2009, 05:17:43 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 20, 2009, 04:23:51 AM
Bitches are gonna be all over you.

Yes, because nothing says HOTNESS like a newbie bass player playing Deep Purple's "Smoke On The Water" ad infinitum.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 20, 2009, 01:33:36 PM
Lou Reed, Take a Walk on the Wild Side.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: The Brain on July 20, 2009, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 20, 2009, 01:33:36 PM
Lou Reed, Take a Walk on the Wild Side.

Isn't that better fretless? NB I know dick about bass.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 20, 2009, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 20, 2009, 01:37:30 PM
Isn't that better fretless? NB I know dick about bass.
Uh, what?
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: The Brain on July 20, 2009, 02:45:43 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 20, 2009, 01:55:46 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 20, 2009, 01:37:30 PM
Isn't that better fretless? NB I know dick about bass.
Uh, what?

On the fretboard (neck) on a regular bass guitar (like the one Tampax has) there are little metal thingies perpendicular to the neck called frets. They are also found on the common regular guitar. They essentially make the instrument "digital". On a fretless guitar there are no frets. The neck looks like on a violin or on a stand up bass. IIRC Walk on the Wild Side was recorded using an old-fashioned stand up bass, ergo a fretless bass. Makes the sliding bass on that song more plusgood compared to if it were played on a bass with frets.

At least this is a theory.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 20, 2009, 02:51:59 PM
Gotcha.

[Beavis]Tampax.  hehe hehe[/Beavis]
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on July 20, 2009, 03:05:30 PM
Tampax?  :huh:
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Ed Anger on July 20, 2009, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 20, 2009, 03:05:30 PM
Tampax?  :huh:

:lol:
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Barrister on July 20, 2009, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 20, 2009, 03:05:30 PM
Tampax?  :huh:

www.tampax.com
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: frunk on July 20, 2009, 03:47:36 PM
Can't go wrong with any of Primus's stuff.  I'm sure it's easy.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on July 20, 2009, 03:53:15 PM
Quote from: Barrister on July 20, 2009, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: Tamas on July 20, 2009, 03:05:30 PM
Tampax?  :huh:

www.tampax.com

Take that, Mother Nature!
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: ulmont on July 20, 2009, 04:31:40 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 20, 2009, 02:45:43 PM
IIRC Walk on the Wild Side was recorded using an old-fashioned stand up bass, ergo a fretless bass. Makes the sliding bass on that song more plusgood compared to if it were played on a bass with frets.

If played well on the fretless bass, yes.  Has the potential to sound godawful though if the player doesn't know where their stops are.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: DontSayBanana on July 20, 2009, 07:30:13 PM
Quote from: frunk on July 20, 2009, 03:47:36 PM
Can't go wrong with any of Primus's stuff.  I'm sure it's easy.

Same thing applies as RHCP. Les Claypool plays slap hard. My hands bled the first time I tried to play My Name is Mudd.

Actually, on second thought, Southbound Pachyderm isn't all that rough.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on September 01, 2009, 11:25:36 AM
The bass player of Black Sabbath was insane.

Paranoid is an awesome song and the tab would be ridicously easy if not for the mere speed of it. OMG my fingers
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 01, 2009, 11:25:36 AM
The bass player of Black Sabbath was insane.

Paranoid is an awesome song and the tab would be ridicously easy if not for the mere speed of it. OMG my fingers

Use a pick, you doof. :P

A lot of the really fast stuff is done with a pick (notable exception for Les Claypool, who must have hands of steel).
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Caliga on September 01, 2009, 07:38:50 PM
I think I might buy a pedal steel or a dobro.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on September 02, 2009, 11:33:07 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: Tamas on September 01, 2009, 11:25:36 AM
The bass player of Black Sabbath was insane.

Paranoid is an awesome song and the tab would be ridicously easy if not for the mere speed of it. OMG my fingers

Use a pick, you doof. :P

A lot of the really fast stuff is done with a pick (notable exception for Les Claypool, who must have hands of steel).

But I would feel like a weakling using a pick :P But it may come down to it :(
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on September 02, 2009, 12:04:44 PM
I do really like Audioslave's Like a Stone though. It is good music and the bass is very easy to play.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: The Brain on September 02, 2009, 12:08:32 PM
n00b
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: callmeclemens on September 04, 2009, 12:17:27 PM
Big Bottom by Spinal Tap has the best bass line ever.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Gbeagle on September 04, 2009, 04:21:48 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:19:11 PM
Use a pick, you doof. :P

A lot of the really fast stuff is done with a pick (notable exception for Les Claypool, who must have hands of steel).

Or Steve Harris, but basically that's true.

Also Tamas must learn to play this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd_3XslPB_0
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on October 17, 2009, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Gbeagle on September 04, 2009, 04:21:48 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on September 01, 2009, 07:19:11 PM
Use a pick, you doof. :P

A lot of the really fast stuff is done with a pick (notable exception for Les Claypool, who must have hands of steel).

Or Steve Harris, but basically that's true.

Also Tamas must learn to play this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd_3XslPB_0

OMFG!


I think I am showing slow but steady progress btw. Actually my music-playing and non music-playing friends say my progress is excellent compared to the time I have spent with it but of course they draw their conclusion from regular guitar. I think the bass is more noob friendly. But of course it takes no less skill and effort to be truly good with it.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: C.C.R. on October 17, 2009, 06:59:23 PM
You are nothing until you have mastered "Peter Gunn."
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on October 21, 2009, 03:01:25 PM
i can play Für Elise on bass \o/


:P
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: The Brain on October 21, 2009, 03:02:18 PM
Put your shit up on youtube, talker.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on October 21, 2009, 03:07:06 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 21, 2009, 03:02:18 PM
Put your shit up on youtube, talker.

Maybe later. I need to perfect my technique first ^_^
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on October 23, 2009, 07:34:42 AM
Quote from: The Brain on October 21, 2009, 03:02:18 PM
Put your shit up on youtube, talker.

Here you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qAXL50f4Ic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qAXL50f4Ic)

Actually, I learned it using a different tab, but did not like the big jumps around frats so I tried this new tab I found, and this is the result. The tempo change in the middle is ugly but I certainly had worse efforts.
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: The Brain on October 23, 2009, 07:42:06 AM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on October 23, 2009, 07:43:49 AM
Quote from: The Brain on October 23, 2009, 07:42:06 AM
:thumbsup:

:lol: thanks for regging to make that comment :D
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: Tamas on October 23, 2009, 10:50:54 AM
How much it sucks, anyway?
Title: Re: I have bought a bass guitar (and amplifier of course)
Post by: The Brain on October 23, 2009, 05:03:03 PM
It's solid beginner stuff.