This is looking pretty good so far, as a grognardly sort of WW2 in Europe strat game. I like the scale they have chosen (Corps with divisions), and I like the level of micromanagement they have put in.
I like the fact that you can PBEM with up to 6 people playing whichever countries they like. I *really* like the fact that finally Matrix is publishing a game that doesn't limit your resolution to somthing fixed and appropriate for 2 decades ago.
Of course, we have been down this road before, and we know where it ends, don't we? But hope springs eternal...
And it looks like the game will be out this week....
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2135346
I'm sure I will drop my $70 on it and experience the usual level of epic disappointment.
A sequel to WW2: Road to Victory? Did that game do that well? I thought it was a beer & pretzels stinker?
Quote from: Berkut on July 15, 2009, 09:57:43 AM
Of course, we have been down this road before, and we know where it ends, don't we? But hope springs eternal...
It's people like you that...well, you know the rest.
map is ugly
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2009, 06:27:08 AM
map is ugly
But
lovely compared to the naval unit icons! :lol:
I don't buy from Matrix until I see tons of positive reviews from people. :)
Quote from: grumbler on July 16, 2009, 06:34:33 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 16, 2009, 06:27:08 AM
map is ugly
But lovely compared to the naval unit icons! :lol:
Indeed.
Berk, buy it and tell us how it is :P
Quote from: Habbaku on July 15, 2009, 10:42:40 AM
I'm sure I will drop my $70 on it and experience the usual level of epic disappointment.
It is listed on Gamersgate at $30. I wonder if that is the actual price...if so, I will certainly give it a shot.
Quote from: Caliga on July 16, 2009, 06:43:21 AM
I don't buy from Matrix until I see tons of positive reviews from people. :)
:yes:
It seems that creating historical games means they will be poorly designed and unintuitive.
It would seem so. :(
Anyway, since I don't buy from Matrix until I see tons of positive reviews, the result is that I almost never buy from Matrix. ^_^
You know, if someone gave me this I would play it. Sometimes, a gift-Wrath is the best part of the present.
I am eager to play the important nation of Iceland.
Quote from: Berkut on July 16, 2009, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 15, 2009, 10:42:40 AM
I'm sure I will drop my $70 on it and experience the usual level of epic disappointment.
It is listed on Gamersgate at $30. I wonder if that is the actual price...if so, I will certainly give it a shot.
It's 23 €. At that price it's tempting; I'm now torn between this and Romance o.t. Three Kingdoms. <_<
the wargame skin seems ok.
hexes look lovely. and the Russian steppes look big.
railroads? I want to micromanage gauge changing.
I'm sorry but how many WW2 games can they possibly make?
Why don't they make something from other eras? I'm tired of this genre. :yawn:
Opinions?
Haven't played it much beyond the invasion of Poland, but it seems worth a shot via PBEM.
I read somewhere that a demo might be coming for this.
I plan on conscripting Berkut into PBEMing this. The game supports multiple players via PBEM, playing as whatever country (or mix of countries) they like.
Any other takers before we get started? I imagine we'll start some time after WBC is over (August 9th).
I could probably be suckered into buying this game. It looks interesting, and simple enough that I could play it. It reminds me of Guns of August, and unfortunately will probably end up like it: I'll play it a few times, discover that the AI sucks and there's crippling bugs, put it away and never play it again.
Why would anyone ever judge a wargame by playing against the AI?
Because I mostly play single player.
Gonna take that as a "no" on the PBEM question, then.
Seeing as I'll be on vacation starting early next week, I couldn't do it anyways. :D
My post was just in general, not a response to yours. Though if I did buy this game, I'd give PBEM a shot.
How did I miss this thread? I think I'd like to give this a shot perhaps in multiplayer.
Quote from: ehrie on July 29, 2009, 02:14:20 PM
How did I miss this thread? I think I'd like to give this a shot perhaps in multiplayer.
The game is incredibly cheap for a PC wargame and seems amusing enough to play. I think some areas might be a touch unbalanced (I'm not sure that the cost to build motorized corps is expensive enough), but I like it so far.
Maybe by the time we get back that first patch will be out.
From the AAR, he seems to be bombing the Poles out of existance in just single turns. :o
Quote from: Habbaku on July 29, 2009, 02:19:09 PM
Quote from: ehrie on July 29, 2009, 02:14:20 PM
How did I miss this thread? I think I'd like to give this a shot perhaps in multiplayer.
The game is incredibly cheap for a PC wargame and seems amusing enough to play. I think some areas might be a touch unbalanced (I'm not sure that the cost to build motorized corps is expensive enough), but I like it so far.
Can I be: British Empire?
Quote from: Lucidor on July 29, 2009, 04:27:28 PM
From the AAR, he seems to be bombing the Poles out of existance in just single turns. :o
Air forces are quite powerful, yes, but also insanely expensive. You do have the ability to bomb units out of existence, but it takes a phenomenal concentration of airpower to do so and assumes that the enemy's interceptors are all out of action while you're doing it.
I don't think that using bombers to wipe out units is a good use of their abilities--I think they're better at softening people up.
Quote from: ehrie on July 29, 2009, 04:50:00 PM
Can I be: British Empire?
I think the current plan is to have one player control the Western Allies and some of the minors (Greece, Belgium, etc.) while another controls the Axis and another controls the Soviets and some other Allied minors (Yugoslavia, Poland).
Naturally, the more people involved, the greater we can break up the alliances. I think a fourth person controlling Italy and the Axis Minors would be pretty amusing to pair up with the German player.
Downloaded the demo. Sends my new-ish monitor into a resolution that puts the game in the top half of the screen with the buttons cut off. Impressive.
I should have known Matrix would fuck up something as simple as demo.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 30, 2009, 12:58:45 PM
Downloaded the demo. Sends my new-ish monitor into a resolution that puts the game in the top half of the screen with the buttons cut off. Impressive.
I should have known Matrix would fuck up something as simple as demo.
Matrix didn't write the game.
Quote from: Berkut on July 30, 2009, 01:03:58 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 30, 2009, 12:58:45 PM
Downloaded the demo. Sends my new-ish monitor into a resolution that puts the game in the top half of the screen with the buttons cut off. Impressive.
I should have known Matrix would fuck up something as simple as demo.
Matrix didn't write the game.
I.don't.care. Their suck is all over it.
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 30, 2009, 01:06:09 PM
Quote from: Berkut on July 30, 2009, 01:03:58 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 30, 2009, 12:58:45 PM
Downloaded the demo. Sends my new-ish monitor into a resolution that puts the game in the top half of the screen with the buttons cut off. Impressive.
I should have known Matrix would fuck up something as simple as demo.
Matrix didn't write the game.
I.don't.care. Their suck is all over it.
You got Berk0wned.
The latest patch is in beta and most likely going to be released next week or the week after, I suspect. Berkut and I are going to try a PBEM again when it's done.
Any other takers?
This is the one that doesn't have the Far East, right? :mad:
In other words, what HoI should've always been. :lol:
If the game with the new patch doesn't suck, I'm down for a PBEM game, I don't have a ton a time right now so playing as a more minor nation is what I'd prefer.
Quote from: Habbaku on September 18, 2009, 05:47:24 PM
The latest patch is in beta and most likely going to be released next week or the week after, I suspect. Berkut and I are going to try a PBEM again when it's done.
Any other takers?
All right, I normally don't play with elitists, but I'll give it a shot.
Quote from: ehrie on September 18, 2009, 08:51:25 PM
If the game with the new patch doesn't suck, I'm down for a PBEM game, I don't have a ton a time right now so playing as a more minor nation is what I'd prefer.
Well, thus far, the game even without the new patch doesn't suck--but the patch will fix some silly stuff and make things run more smoothly, in general.
How does Hungary sound? :P
Actually, I think sticking you with Romania is a good call. You'll get a decent bit of power and some degree of responsibility when Barbarossa rolls around, but your objectives will be limited to helping the initial offensive, guarding supply lines and protecting the German flank around the big cities, so you can't possibly hurt things for the Axis.
Quote from: Habbaku on September 21, 2009, 12:36:04 AM
your objectives will be limited to helping the initial offensive, guarding supply lines and protecting the German flank around the big cities, so you can't possibly hurt things for the Axis.
:lol:
Does anyone still play this?
I notice it's $20 on Impulse right now.
I guess the answer is no. I was wondering if it was worth getting as well.
I have it but haven't played in a while. I suggest checking maybe the Matrix forums for more info?
Actually, I thought this game had a lot of potential, but needed some tweaking before it was really ready to play.
They'va patched it a few times, so I am going to take another look at it, I think.
Quote from: Berkut on March 14, 2010, 11:24:12 PM
Actually, I thought this game had a lot of potential, but needed some tweaking before it was really ready to play.
They'va patched it a few times, so I am going to take another look at it, I think.
I would appreciate your view of the game once you have had a chance to take another look.
Bumping back to the first page in case Berkut gets a chance to patch and play.
Btw, there seems to be a Pacific theater version in the works:
http://stormoverpacific.com/