RIP Hopefully we'll see more men like him.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/man-who-saved-world-nuclear-annihilation-dies-77-180964934/?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=socialmedia
QuoteMan Who Saved the World From Nuclear Annihilation Dies at 77
In 1983, Soviet lieutenant colonel Stanislav Petrov kept his cool and reported a U.S. missile strike as a false alarm, preventing a massive counterstrike
By Jason Daley
smithsonian.com
September 18, 2017 3:28PM
The majority of people in the United States have never heard of Stanislav Petrov, who died earlier this year in the Moscow suburb of Fryazino. News of his death on May 19 is only now being widely reported. But Americans—and, indeed, much of the world— owe their lives to the 77-year-old former lieutenant colonel of the Soviet Air Defence Forces. For 25 minutes in 1983, as sensors indicated a U.S. nuclear strike was headed toward Moscow, Petrov kept his cool and decided to report it as a false alarm, reports Sewell Chan at The New York Times. By preventing a retaliatory counterstrike, Petrov likely saved the U.S. and U.S.S.R. from annihilation and the rest of the world from decades of radioactive fallout.
On that fateful day in September 1983, Petrov was serving as the duty officer at Serpukhov-15, a secret bunker outside Moscow where Soviet forces monitored an early-warning system for nuclear strikes, Megan Garner at The Atlantic reports.
Petrov's job was to monitor the situation and pass along any signs of a strike detected by the nation's Oko satellites to his superiors, and just after midnight, the alarms began to sound—satellites had picked up five ballistic missiles heading from the U.S. west coast toward Russia.
Colonel Petrov had two choices. He could simply relay the information to his superiors, who would decide whether to launch a counterstrike, or he could declare the incoming missiles a false alarm. If the missiles were a false alarm, he could prevent the advent of World War III. On the other hand, if the missiles were real and he reported them as a false, the Soviet Union would be hit, perhaps critically, without striking back. "All my subordinates were confused, so I started shouting orders at them to avoid panic. I knew my decision would have a lot of consequences," Petrov told RT in 2010.
He had roughly 15 minutes to make his decision. "My cozy armchair felt like a red-hot frying pan and my legs went limp. I felt like I couldn't even stand up. That's how nervous I was," he said.
At the time, a U.S. strike was not out of the question, Chan reports. Less than a month earlier, the Soviets had shot down Korean Airlines Flight 007, which had strayed into their airspace on a flight from New York to Seoul. The crash killed 269 people, including a U.S. congressman. Earlier that year, President Ronald Reagan had publicly referred to the Soviet Union an Evil Empire, and his administration was committed to taking an aggressive stance against the U.S.S.R., backing anti-Communist groups in Central America and undertaking years of military buildup to force the U.S.S.R. into an arms race it couldn't afford.
Despite the high tensions
John Bacon at USA Today reports that several things caused Petrov to hesitate. First, he knew a first strike by the United States would likely be a huge attack, not five missiles. Second, Petrov was not confidant in the Soviet's satellite alarm system, which was not completely reliable, and ground based radar did not show any missiles in the air. He decided to go with his gut, and reported the incident as a false alarm to his superiors.
As it turned out, the alleged "missiles" turned out to be sunlight glinting off the tops of clouds. Later, Petrov was actually reprimanded for not recording all of the details in his logbook, but he did not receive any punishment for not directly relaying the signal.
Chen reports that Petrov retired from the air force in 1984, and from there, he fell off the radar. At one point he was so impoverished he had to grow potatoes to survive. It wasn't until 1998, several years after the fall of the Soviet Union, that his role in saving the world from disaster went public, in the memoir of a former Soviet missile defense commander Yuriy Vsyevolodich Votintsev. After that, he gained some prominence and was awarded the Dresden International Peace Prize in 2013 and was the subject of the 2014 docu-drama "The Man Who Saved the World."
RIP
QuotePetrov, who retired with the rank of lieutenant colonel, died on 19 May but news of his passing became widely known only this month, thanks to a chance phone call.
German film-maker Karl Schumacher, who first brought Petrov's story to an international audience, telephoned him to wish him a happy birthday on 7 September only to be informed by his son, Dmitry Petrov, that he had passed away.
Mr Schumacher announced the death online and it was eventually picked up by media outlets.
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I am pretty sure I heard about his death in the early summer.
Quote from: grumbler on September 19, 2017, 02:29:39 PM
I am pretty sure I heard about his death in the early summer.
False alarm?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 19, 2017, 01:48:46 AM
RIP Hopefully we'll see more men like him.
:hmm: I don't know if having a lot of men that avert nuclear war by one decision is such a good thing for humanity.
Quote from: DGuller on September 19, 2017, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 19, 2017, 01:48:46 AM
RIP Hopefully we'll see more men like him.
:hmm: I don't know if having a lot of men that avert nuclear war by one decision is such a good thing for humanity.
[Languish]
Yes we need more people to follow orders and the correct procedures, we can look into the effectiveness of the decision making process later.
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:P
In the long run things work best when people follow orders.
RIP and many thanks for taking the actions and making the decisions he did.
Mono: How large was his pension?
I find the headline a pinch sensationalistic.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 19, 2017, 09:13:54 PM
I find the headline a pinch sensationalistic.
How so?
You don't think they would have launched had he followed procedure?
Or you think civilization would have survived?
What exactly was his job? To pass along Oko satellite data, pass along all relevant data including the lack of radar readings, or pass along a statement of fact that about a launch (based on his judgment of all the vidence)? It's unclear to me what exactly his superiors would make a decision based on, and therefore to what extent the dude's action decided the issue.
Another thing, the technical details regarding anything in Sweden that is anywhere near as sensitive as nuclear weapons are still classified years and years after the fact. You hear and read a lot about nuclear weapon stuff in the US/UK and the SU and their equipment and SOPs, but how much of that can we be reasonably sure is not misleading or simply lies?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 20, 2017, 04:42:00 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 19, 2017, 09:13:54 PM
I find the headline a pinch sensationalistic.
How so?
You don't think they would have launched had he followed procedure?
Or you think civilization would have survived?
False alarms occurred all the time in those days, which is why both sides used multiple sensors to detect attacks. Why do you think that the Soviets would have launched a thermonuclear war had he passed on the word that the satellites had detected five bogies but that there was no radar return from any of them?
Why, in fact, should we believe that this wasn't a fairly common occurrence?
Quote from: DGuller on September 19, 2017, 07:19:27 PM
In the long run things work best when people follow orders.
Luckily we don't have to worry about that sort of thing silliness anymore, what with the Russians adopting the "launch on warning" protocol since they've allowed their high earth orbit warning systems to degrade and all.
Edit: you fucking Miami bot.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 20, 2017, 04:42:00 AM
You don't think they would have launched had he followed procedure?
I don't, for the reasons mentioned in your article.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 20, 2017, 03:20:39 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 20, 2017, 04:42:00 AM
You don't think they would have launched had he followed procedure?
I don't, for the reasons mentioned in your article.
The hardest part to believe is that the people above would not have gone through the same thought process. Why first strike with five missiles? If the US double-bluffed the Soviet and really did launch five real missiles, the Soviet Union would still have the capability to strike back with much more than five missiles.
I thought the fact that the satellite system was known to be hinky was the most damning.