The Seven Wonders of the Ancient World are (or were):
Great Pyramid of Giza,
Hanging Gardens of Babylon,
Temple of Artemis,
Statue of Zeus at Olympia,
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus,
Colossus of Rhodes,
and the Lighthouse of Alexandria.
Of these seven, only the Great Pyramid still exists ... which of these seven would you like to see restored, and why? (For the Great Pyramid, for "restored" imagine it with its original outer cladding, and completely unlooted!)
No Civ jokes please. :P
Quote from: Malthus on September 05, 2017, 01:49:04 PM
The Seven Wonders of the Ancient World are (or were):
Great Pyramid of Giza,
Hanging Gardens of Babylon,
Temple of Artemis,
Statue of Zeus at Olympia,
Mausoleum at Halicarnassus,
Colossus of Rhodes,
and the Lighthouse of Alexandria.
Of these seven, only the Great Pyramid still exists ... which of these seven would you like to see restored, and why? (For the Great Pyramid, for "restored" imagine it with its original outer cladding, and completely unlooted!)
No Civ jokes please. :P
1. Still going, great!
2. Would make a juicy target for Islamic terrorists...no thanks.
3. Reviving a Greek cultural monument in Turkey? Good luck.
4. Greece has enough tourist destinations.
5. See #3
6. See #4 (Probably more viable than #5, but it would probably turn out to be pretty gaudy)
7. See #2 (Egypt has a better chance of keeping it alive)
But if any, probably the statue of Zeus. The way it was made/design seemed really cool. But it would be really indulgent.
The Colossus of Rhodes of course. That would be amazing to see.
The Lighthouse or the Colossus. But I would want them to have survived, I don't actually want any of them restored.
The Lighthouse got turned into a fortress which is now ancient in its own right I think.
Good thread idea Malthus.
I was very excited to say the "Library of Alexandria" to discover all the lost knowledge, but they named the lighthouse the wonder instad of the library? That seemed dumb.
In that case, I agree with Valmy. Didn't the statue supposedly have feet on opposite sites of the harbor? That would be awesome.
But ultimately, I have to say none of them, because I don't think the world deserves nice things right now.
I'm not too keen on any of them being restored, but if I had to pick the one I think would be coolest if it was still intact since antiquity (counting the Great Pyramid as already intact today) I'd say the Lighthouse.
Quote from: Maladict on September 05, 2017, 02:00:18 PM
The Lighthouse or the Colossus. But I would want them to have survived, I don't actually want any of them restored.
Assume that it survived absolutely intact since antiquity then.
Quote from: The Brain on September 05, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
I'm not too keen on any of them being restored, but if I had to pick the one I think would be coolest if it was still intact since antiquity (counting the Great Pyramid as already intact today) I'd say the Lighthouse.
The Great Pyramid is still here, but looted. Assume for the pyramid choice you could have it totally unlooted, so with its outer cladding intact, and with the king's mummy inside plus all the original treasures.
the shining limestone and gold cap of the pyramids would probably be the coolest to see.
Quote from: Malthus on September 05, 2017, 02:13:15 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 05, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
I'm not too keen on any of them being restored, but if I had to pick the one I think would be coolest if it was still intact since antiquity (counting the Great Pyramid as already intact today) I'd say the Lighthouse.
The Great Pyramid is still here, but looted. Assume for the pyramid choice you could have it totally unlooted, so with its outer cladding intact, and with the king's mummy inside plus all the original treasures.
Then it's a hard choice, but since the Eqyptians would be the ones who would excavate the tomb they would probably superglue Khufu's nose or something and the whole affair would turn a bit meh. Depends on how much written material was deposited in the tomb (and preserved), if they put a lot of documents describing fairly down to earth stuff about their economy and administration etc then that would weigh heavily for the pyramid in my mind.
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I'm leaning Hanging Gardens because it comes with the secondary benefit of learning exactly what the hell it was, assuming it really ever existed.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 05, 2017, 02:36:25 PM
I'm leaning Hanging Gardens because it comes with the secondary benefit of learning exactly what the hell it was, assuming it really ever existed.
:huh: A collection of hanging trees.
Quote from: mongers on September 05, 2017, 02:33:34 PM
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... it's still around. :P
Quote from: Malthus on September 05, 2017, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 05, 2017, 02:33:34 PM
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Disqualified.
... it's still around. :P
but as a sad shadow of it's former self :( :P
Quote from: Malthus on September 05, 2017, 02:11:24 PM
Quote from: Maladict on September 05, 2017, 02:00:18 PM
The Lighthouse or the Colossus. But I would want them to have survived, I don't actually want any of them restored.
Assume that it survived absolutely intact since antiquity then.
This is too hard, I can't even bring the list down to five :(
Quote from: mongers on September 05, 2017, 02:33:34 PM
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Apparently, there are plans to rebuild the Colossus - sort of.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/27/greece-colossus-rhodes-new-project
Quote from: alfred russel on September 05, 2017, 02:01:59 PM
Didn't the statue supposedly have feet on opposite sites of the harbor? That would be awesome.
It's traditionally depicted that way, but many modern scholars think that it stood beside the harbor entrance, not astride it.
If it did stand astride the harbor entrance, I think it's the one I'd most like to see restored. If it stood beside the entrance, than I'd go with the lighthouse. It was itself an impressive structure--it would still be one of the tallest lighthouses in the world, though not the tallest.
Quote from: mongers on September 05, 2017, 02:33:34 PM
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Can we unban Civ jokes in this thread?
Quote from: Malthus on September 05, 2017, 04:26:19 PM
Apparently, there are plans to rebuild the Colossus - sort of.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/27/greece-colossus-rhodes-new-project
That circular Crusader fortress there is supposed to be built on the Colossus' base.
I think my choice is obvious. :D I just hope the Greeks properly earthquake-proof it this time.
Probably Hanging Gardens.
The pyramids already exist, so no point to waste the restoration effort on them.
The lighthouse, statues etc are just big versions of what we already have. A big lighthouse was probably a big deal in ancient times. It would be unremarkable nowadays.
The Hanging Gardens would be more interesting. Maybe.
The gardens
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The Colossus for sure. It's the most extravagant of them all (and I *demand* it to straddle the harbor), with the Statue of Zeus in second spot.
I loved the old sword and sandal flick when I was a kid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbWOWLs1LXc) - Sergio Leone's first film as a director.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 05, 2017, 11:11:32 PM
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Not enough feathers on the T Rex :P
I think I agree with Mono and would go for the Hanging Gardens.
In the main because we don't really know what they were like, so I'm intrigued to find out.
Gardens followed by Pyramids. It would be interesting from a botany standpoint as well to see what they had in the gardens at that time and location historically.