My SO wants to visit a friend of hers on the East Coast in early December.
What is there to do around those parts? I'm guessing a day or so for for DC (Mall, Smithsonian) and a few days at NYC. But what else? Is it even worth it to visit Philly or Boston? Any Natural park worth seeing? Or is it just too fucking cold by then?
Please keep in mind the distances between these points of interest. Boston to DC is a 8 hours drive.
While I like Philadelphia not sure if there is much for an international tourist. Only reason I can really think of is stopover between DC and New York if you wanted, but not really needed.
Agreed with GF to the extent that Boston is distance beyond New York and while again, also nice (especially with Cambridge) not at all as dazzling as DC and New York.
I, personally, would spend very little time outdoors during that time of year. :blush: -_-
You can do a couple days at any of the major cities, it depends on what you are interested in and how much time you have. DC and NYC have more museums and stereotypical touristy things so can easily chew up a week or longer each. If doing a week or less I'd focus on 1-2 cities at most, 1-2 weeks 3-4 cities.
For state/national parks it might be worth it at spots DC or further south, further north it'll probably be too cold.
Philly is nice for a day on the way between NY and DC, but not more than that. You can add a visit to the Niagara Falls as well, but it's a bit out of the way. How are you going to travel between cities? How long are you planning to stay? If you're going to be there for only a week or less I'd only stay in NY.
I'd rule out outdoorsy stuff at that point of the year.
You must go to Central Perk.
You really want to get a sense of America, spend less time in museums and more on the highway.
Spend a few days in Washington DC. While it's still there.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2017, 12:12:06 PM
Spend a few days in Washington DC. While it's still there.
She's not coming util December. The crater should have cooled by then, but radiation counts will still be way up.
Boston and Cape Cod are worth a visit, but not in December.
West Point and the Naval Academy are both pretty cool. Mount Vernon is close to DC.
Also vote to skip Philly.
Fuck all you non liberty loving motherfuckers.
Quote from: grumbler on August 09, 2017, 12:26:05 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2017, 12:12:06 PM
Spend a few days in Washington DC. While it's still there.
She's not coming util December. The crater should have cooled by then, but radiation counts will still be way up.
We'll be sure to stock up on Rad-X.
If you go to Philly, you can drive through Amish country which is nearby and gawk at the locals with their horse carriages etc.
http://www.usmcmuseum.com
As the people said...December? Potentially bad weather and short days mean it might be best to go big on the indoor stuff...which NYC and DC have plenty of.
Yeah, unless you're planning a ski trip or going to Florida, you don't really want to plan much of anything outdoorsy on the East Coast during December.
East Coast? Pffft, that sucks.
Quote from: PDH on August 09, 2017, 11:14:35 PM
East Coast? Pffft, that sucks.
Better beaches, not that it matters in December.
I've been in December and it's totally fine to do outside stuff. Except for the limited amount of daylight it's more manageable than going in summer I'd say.
So Valley Forge, Gettysburg etc are very doable. I would say a week for the DC/Philly area and another for NYC.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 09, 2017, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: PDH on August 09, 2017, 11:14:35 PM
East Coast? Pffft, that sucks.
Better beaches, not that it matters in December.
Haha. Spoken like a fool.
It is true...crowds for the CW battlefields will be light. But keep in mind possible Snowmageddons and be flexible.
Quote from: Maladict on August 09, 2017, 11:42:39 PM
I've been in December and it's totally fine to do outside stuff. Except for the limited amount of daylight it's more manageable than going in summer I'd say.
So Valley Forge, Gettysburg etc are very doable. I would say a week for the DC/Philly area and another for NYC.
Yeah, can be supes awesome to hike about in snow..
Quote from: garbon on August 10, 2017, 01:51:31 AM
Yeah, can be supes awesome to hike about in snow..
Valley Forge in snow could be a nice hike :cool:
But obviously you adapt your schedule to the weather. I don't think I was even wearing a coat during my December visit.
Did you at least wear pants?
Quote from: garbon on August 10, 2017, 01:50:54 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 09, 2017, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: PDH on August 09, 2017, 11:14:35 PM
East Coast? Pffft, that sucks.
Better beaches, not that it matters in December.
Haha. Spoken like a fool.
Spoken like someone who knows the direction of the major currents. East gets water from the Caribbean, West gets water from Alaska. East wins.
East also has southerners and a good stretch of the east coast has rocks, not beaches.
Ah, just bigotry. Carry on.
Quick related hijack.
We're planning a week in NYC (probably staying in Brooklyn) in October. Would like a day trip out of the city to see a bit of countryside. Is somewhere on Long Island the best bet, if so where?
I hope there will be a Gups-Minsky meeting, as it would easily be the most sophisticated Languish meet ever.
Quote from: Gups on August 10, 2017, 05:05:48 AM
Quick related hijack.
We're planning a week in NYC (probably staying in Brooklyn) in October. Would like a day trip out of the city to see a bit of countryside. Is somewhere on Long Island the best bet, if so where?
The Finger Lake region upstate, roughly halfway to the Niagara Falls, might be another option. It's a wine producing region, if that's a plus.
Quote from: The Larch on August 10, 2017, 05:44:46 AM
Quote from: Gups on August 10, 2017, 05:05:48 AM
Quick related hijack.
We're planning a week in NYC (probably staying in Brooklyn) in October. Would like a day trip out of the city to see a bit of countryside. Is somewhere on Long Island the best bet, if so where?
The Finger Lake region upstate, roughly halfway to the Niagara Falls, might be another option. It's a wine producing region, if that's a plus.
Agreed, that would be the better direction although you don't have to go all the way to the Finger Lake region. The Poconos are closer and less of a traffic nightmare than Long Island that time of year.
Quote from: frunk on August 10, 2017, 07:06:59 AM
Quote from: The Larch on August 10, 2017, 05:44:46 AM
Quote from: Gups on August 10, 2017, 05:05:48 AM
Quick related hijack.
We're planning a week in NYC (probably staying in Brooklyn) in October. Would like a day trip out of the city to see a bit of countryside. Is somewhere on Long Island the best bet, if so where?
The Finger Lake region upstate, roughly halfway to the Niagara Falls, might be another option. It's a wine producing region, if that's a plus.
Agreed, that would be the better direction although you don't have to go all the way to the Finger Lake region. The Poconos are closer and less of a traffic nightmare than Long Island that time of year.
Thanks both, but not planning on hiring a car if we can avoid it.
Quote from: Gups on August 10, 2017, 07:16:39 AM
Quote from: frunk on August 10, 2017, 07:06:59 AM
Quote from: The Larch on August 10, 2017, 05:44:46 AM
Quote from: Gups on August 10, 2017, 05:05:48 AM
Quick related hijack.
We're planning a week in NYC (probably staying in Brooklyn) in October. Would like a day trip out of the city to see a bit of countryside. Is somewhere on Long Island the best bet, if so where?
The Finger Lake region upstate, roughly halfway to the Niagara Falls, might be another option. It's a wine producing region, if that's a plus.
Agreed, that would be the better direction although you don't have to go all the way to the Finger Lake region. The Poconos are closer and less of a traffic nightmare than Long Island that time of year.
Thanks both, but not planning on hiring a car if we can avoid it.
Driving on the right side of the road is not that difficult. :P
Quote from: The Larch on August 10, 2017, 07:31:37 AM
Driving on the right side of the road is not that difficult. :P
You're wrong. I do it all the time here and people are always getting in my way, shouting, blaring their horns. Can't imagine why it would be any better in the States
I cannot think of any credible reason to visit Long Island. Ever.
Quote from: Berkut on August 10, 2017, 07:41:43 AM
I cannot think of any credible reason to visit Long Island. Ever.
I used to go to a game group there.
Quote from: Berkut on August 10, 2017, 07:41:43 AM
I cannot think of any credible reason to visit Long Island. Ever.
Its rather nice Montauk way. Also as a gay - fire island.
Go to Montauk, take the ferry to Block Island and then Newport. See the Breakers and Battleship Cove and head back. Should be mostly doable by public transport.
Quote from: Gups on August 10, 2017, 05:05:48 AM
Quick related hijack.
We're planning a week in NYC (probably staying in Brooklyn) in October. Would like a day trip out of the city to see a bit of countryside. Is somewhere on Long Island the best bet, if so where?
There's usually good foliage that time of year, but not really on Long Island. Better bet for that is north, in Westchester, Putnam, or Dutchess counties, or Fairfield Country in Connecticut. Fingers Lakes is nice but a bit further to go.
As for Long Island, if you wanted to stay overnight, the Hamptons is off season and you can probably get a deal. I've been out there in winter - you can't swim or sunbathe, but on the other hand it's not crowded with Wall Street types.
Quote from: Gups on August 10, 2017, 05:05:48 AM
Quick related hijack.
We're planning a week in NYC (probably staying in Brooklyn) in October. Would like a day trip out of the city to see a bit of countryside. Is somewhere on Long Island the best bet, if so where?
West Point has a gorgeous view of the Hudson, plus they have cool fortifications and awesome dioramas in their museum. :)
Quote from: Maladict on August 09, 2017, 11:42:39 PM
I've been in December and it's totally fine to do outside stuff. Except for the limited amount of daylight it's more manageable than going in summer I'd say.
So Valley Forge, Gettysburg etc are very doable. I would say a week for the DC/Philly area and another for NYC.
Oh, sure, there can be some very nice warm days during the winter. I'm just saying, don't plan on it.
Quote from: Iormlund on August 09, 2017, 10:52:30 AM
My SO wants to visit a friend of hers on the East Coast in early December.
What is there to do around those parts? I'm guessing a day or so for for DC (Mall, Smithsonian) and a few days at NYC. But what else? Is it even worth it to visit Philly or Boston? Any Natural park worth seeing? Or is it just too fucking cold by then?
There's a delightful little christmas market on F Street during the holiday season. Also the White House christmas tree and the congressional christmas trees go up. They're nice at night. The Mall at night, especially looking down on it from the Lincoln Memorial, is possibly my favorite sight in the whole city.
Lesser known museums that are really good are the Renwick right next to the White House and the Phillips Gallery in DuPont, but you have to pay to get into that one. The Portrait Gallery (also on F Street) is really great too, and there are a ton of places nearby to sit down and eat (or drink) after you have walked around a museum for two hours.
Ford's Theatre is still an operating theater. Lincoln's box is adorned accordingly. Excellent Lincoln museum and gift shop in the basement floor.
(https://worldstrides.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Untitled-1_0014_Fords-Theater-Webinar.jpg)
You can see why Booth broke his leg. Damned near a two-story drop. Confederatard dumbass.
You're really selling yourself short if you spend anything less than 3 days in Washington, DC. The amount of stuff to there is outright silly.
Are soft shell crabs in season in December? That would be another reason to stop off in Maryland.
And crab cakes. Stop in Maryland and eat those two things. Soft shell crab the price doesn't matter, it will always be good. But crab cakes the more you spend the better they will be.
Go to Philadelphia. The weather is nice and sunny. Plenty of places to visit like: The Streets, The Liberty Bell Center, Reading Terminal Market, Paddy's Pub, Independence Hall etc.
Quote from: Octavian on August 11, 2017, 03:27:37 AM
Go to Philadelphia. The weather is nice and sunny. Plenty of places to visit like: The Streets, The Liberty Bell Center, Reading Terminal Market, Paddy's Pub, Independence Hall etc.
He should probably just watch the tv show. :P
Quote from: garbon on August 11, 2017, 04:47:15 AM
Quote from: Octavian on August 11, 2017, 03:27:37 AM
Go to Philadelphia. The weather is nice and sunny. Plenty of places to visit like: The Streets, The Liberty Bell Center, Reading Terminal Market, Paddy's Pub, Independence Hall etc.
He should probably just watch the tv show. :P
It's a movie.