Rejoice, Spanish friends! (https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/restaurant-brands-signs-joint-venture-111810332.html)
you too will now be able to enjoy bad coffee :D
I wonder if it will be such an experience as it is for English Canadians. :P
Maybe they should go after Germany/Poland. Somehow Dunkin Donuts is allowed to survive there.
It's not like we don't have a massive number of cafés and café chains available already. Seems a difficult market to get in.
Quote from: viper37 on August 03, 2017, 11:50:02 AM
Rejoice, Spanish friends! (https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/restaurant-brands-signs-joint-venture-111810332.html)
you too will now be able to enjoy bad coffee :D
I wonder if it will be such an experience as it is for English Canadians. :P
The most addicted persons, I know, to Tim Hortons are eastern Quebecers. Gaspésiens are the worse.
In Spain is the "standard" coffee drip or espresso?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on August 03, 2017, 03:22:30 PM
In Spain is the "standard" coffee drip or espresso?
Espresso.
I never had thought Subway would take a hold in France either. But it has. And Starbucks too. Though I am guessing it's the cultural context of Starbucks that gives it cachet. I don't understand what possible cachet Tim Horton could possibly offer to Spaniards.
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 03, 2017, 03:36:05 PM
I never had thought Subway would take a hold in France either. But it has. And Starbucks too. Though I am guessing it's the cultural context of Starbucks that gives it cachet. I don't understand what possible cachet Tim Horton could possibly offer to Spaniards.
The lure of exotic hoserdom. :D
Quote from: Oexmelin on August 03, 2017, 03:36:05 PM
I never had thought Subway would take a hold in France either. But it has. And Starbucks too. Though I am guessing it's the cultural context of Starbucks that gives it cachet. I don't understand what possible cachet Tim Horton could possibly offer to Spaniards.
Yeah Starbucks has been successful by coasting on its hip brand image, and the fact that it was indeed a novel concept for a café when it started opening branches in Spain. Now there's loads of "American hip" cafés and café chains over here.
But Tim Hortons? I just don't see the lure.
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 03, 2017, 01:10:21 PM
Quote from: viper37 on August 03, 2017, 11:50:02 AM
Rejoice, Spanish friends! (https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/restaurant-brands-signs-joint-venture-111810332.html)
you too will now be able to enjoy bad coffee :D
I wonder if it will be such an experience as it is for English Canadians. :P
The most addicted persons, I know, to Tim Hortons are eastern Quebecers. Gaspésiens are the worse.
really? I knew one, but he's addicted to McD's coffee now.
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But Tim Hortons? I just don't see the lure.
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me neither. I just thought it weird. But like Oex said, other fastfood franchines managed it. So, maybe it will work, with some local flavour added.
I remember there was a Dunkin Donuts in Madrid back when I lived there, doubt it's still open.
I hope they open in Hong Kong. I am not a fan of donuts but I would be happy to try their coffee.
Goddammit, I want some pumpkin doughnuts.
You fucks.
Quote from: viper37 on August 03, 2017, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 03, 2017, 01:10:21 PM
Quote from: viper37 on August 03, 2017, 11:50:02 AM
Rejoice, Spanish friends! (https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/restaurant-brands-signs-joint-venture-111810332.html)
you too will now be able to enjoy bad coffee :D
I wonder if it will be such an experience as it is for English Canadians. :P
The most addicted persons, I know, to Tim Hortons are eastern Quebecers. Gaspésiens are the worse.
really? I knew one, but he's addicted to McD's coffee now.
Which is the old timmies coffee. Years ago Tim Hortons got in a tiff with its supplier and McDonald's Canada swooped in and got the contract.
Quote from: viper37 on August 03, 2017, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 03, 2017, 01:10:21 PM
Quote from: viper37 on August 03, 2017, 11:50:02 AM
Rejoice, Spanish friends! (https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/restaurant-brands-signs-joint-venture-111810332.html)
you too will now be able to enjoy bad coffee :D
I wonder if it will be such an experience as it is for English Canadians. :P
The most addicted persons, I know, to Tim Hortons are eastern Quebecers. Gaspésiens are the worse.
really? I knew one, but he's addicted to McD's coffee now.
Yeah, remember my infamous failed move to Edmonton? I went there with 3 Gaspésiens, I'm pretty sure we stopped at all the Tim Hortons we came across.
Quote from: The Larch on August 03, 2017, 05:31:26 PM
I remember there was a Dunkin Donuts in Madrid back when I lived there, doubt it's still open.
According to Google not only is it likely that it is still open, but that they also spawned quite a bit. Is showing at least 12 in Madrid...:x
There's a few in Barcelona too, but they are all located in malls or highly touristic areas. They closed all their "regular" street locations - over here at least.
In the 2000s there were many more.
Quote from: HVC on August 03, 2017, 08:06:24 PM
Quote from: viper37 on August 03, 2017, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on August 03, 2017, 01:10:21 PM
Quote from: viper37 on August 03, 2017, 11:50:02 AM
Rejoice, Spanish friends! (https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/restaurant-brands-signs-joint-venture-111810332.html)
you too will now be able to enjoy bad coffee :D
I wonder if it will be such an experience as it is for English Canadians. :P
The most addicted persons, I know, to Tim Hortons are eastern Quebecers. Gaspésiens are the worse.
really? I knew one, but he's addicted to McD's coffee now.
Which is the old timmies coffee. Years ago Tim Hortons got in a tiff with its supplier and McDonald's Canada swooped in and got the contract.
ah, that explains why :)
If you're ever down and out, it's good to know that Dunkin sells off the donuts they're going to toss at 2:00 AM at firesale prices. I got through grad school on 6 donuts for $2.
(https://www.ecestaticos.com/image/clipping/654/624ada9877fce39c7fa8db8083ffa4ff/proxima-apertura-de-tim-hortons-en-un-parque-empresarial-de-pozuelo-de-alarcon-madrid.jpg)
:menace:
THIBERIA.COM? :lol:
Ok, it's less funny has TH Iberia.
We're finally getting one close to my house :)
So, is this place worth checking out once it's open? Although I guess they won't source the same coffee as their US/Canada branches.
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 02:19:55 PM
So, is this place worth checking out once it's open? Although I guess they won't source the same coffee as their US/Canada branches.
No.
Quote from: garbon on November 22, 2017, 02:21:47 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 02:19:55 PM
So, is this place worth checking out once it's open? Although I guess they won't source the same coffee as their US/Canada branches.
No.
Well, they'll have their work cut out to succeed over here, if there's something that Spain doesn't lack is places to have good coffee. Also places to have awful coffee.
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 02:19:55 PM
So, is this place worth checking out once it's open? Although I guess they won't source the same coffee as their US/Canada branches.
It's worth checking out once on the grounds of novelty, I'd say, but I don't think there's anything spectacular about Tim Hortons.
Still, if you're in the market for fast food and/or inexpensive sugary baked goods you might as well evaluate it against the competition. Maybe you'll find their value proposition worthwhile... but it's not inherently obvious, I don't think.
They'd be competing with other coffee places (including Starbucks) for my "hipster working with his laptop in a cafeteria" dollar.
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 02:27:28 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 22, 2017, 02:21:47 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 02:19:55 PM
So, is this place worth checking out once it's open? Although I guess they won't source the same coffee as their US/Canada branches.
No.
Well, they'll have their work cut out to succeed over here, if there's something that Spain doesn't lack is places to have good coffee. Also places to have awful coffee.
What about doughnuts?
Quote from: Eddie Teach on November 22, 2017, 02:53:50 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 02:27:28 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 22, 2017, 02:21:47 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 02:19:55 PM
So, is this place worth checking out once it's open? Although I guess they won't source the same coffee as their US/Canada branches.
No.
Well, they'll have their work cut out to succeed over here, if there's something that Spain doesn't lack is places to have good coffee. Also places to have awful coffee.
What about doughnuts?
Same. We have loads of bakery-coffee shops. Apparently they want to position themselves as a cheaper alternative to Starbucks, but we have loads of those too. :lol:
Anyway, will check it out once it's open. I hope it's full of Canadian quaintness at the very least.
It is pretty generic. Hard for me to tell a difference between it and Dunkin.
It exudes Canadian sex appeal and attitude.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 22, 2017, 03:15:23 PM
It exudes Canadian sex appeal and attitude.
That is a harsh indictment of both :cry:
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 02:45:09 PM
They'd be competing with other coffee places (including Starbucks) for my "hipster working with his laptop in a cafeteria" dollar.
Tim Hortons is cheaper than Starbucks. The main benefit is you can get food there, as well as sugar snack/coffee.
Dunno if it has anything that can compete against existing businesses in Spain, though.
For whatever reason Starbucks didn't go to Sweden until fairly late, so there was already a ton of similaresque chains. I never go to Starbucks. "Fuck you, that's my name."
Quote from: Jacob on November 22, 2017, 02:40:14 PM
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 02:19:55 PM
So, is this place worth checking out once it's open? Although I guess they won't source the same coffee as their US/Canada branches.
It's worth checking out once on the grounds of novelty, I'd say, but I don't think there's anything spectacular about Tim Hortons.
Still, if you're in the market for fast food and/or inexpensive sugary baked goods you might as well evaluate it against the competition. Maybe you'll find their value proposition worthwhile... but it's not inherently obvious, I don't think.
So, Tim Horton's in Spain may be a totally different experience than in Canada.
But if it's the same as Canada, I have never truly understood the appeal. The coffee is mediocre (as someone pointed out, McDonalds has better coffee if you're not wanting to pay Starbucks-type prices). They don't actually cook any food on-site - their donuts are all frozen and thawed out as needed.
Don't get me wrong I've drank many a cup of TH's coffee in my day, but only because it is so ubiquitous. I would never deliberately seek one out.
McDonald's has surprisingly good coffee - at least over here - given what they charge for it. They have even started creating separate coffee bars near the entrance of their establishments to attract the kind of people - like me - that would never go to a McDonald's otherwise.
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 06:23:11 PM
McDonald's has surprisingly good coffee - at least over here - given what they charge for it. They have even started creating separate coffee bars near the entrance of their establishments to attract the kind of people - like me - that would never go to a McDonald's otherwise.
It's been said here a million times, but if you haven't had Micky D's breakfast stuff you need to check it out.
And here at least they offer breakfast all day.
Quote from: The Larch on August 03, 2017, 05:31:26 PM
I remember there was a Dunkin Donuts in Madrid back when I lived there, doubt it's still open.
They opened one here recently. People queued up like it was an Apple store :bleeding:
Quote from: Maladict on November 24, 2017, 04:28:06 AM
Quote from: The Larch on August 03, 2017, 05:31:26 PM
I remember there was a Dunkin Donuts in Madrid back when I lived there, doubt it's still open.
They opened one here recently. People queued up like it was an Apple store :bleeding:
Europeans appear to love Dunkin as I doubt there are that many tourists from New England to keep them all afloat.
Quote from: garbon on November 24, 2017, 04:47:37 AM
Quote from: Maladict on November 24, 2017, 04:28:06 AM
Quote from: The Larch on August 03, 2017, 05:31:26 PM
I remember there was a Dunkin Donuts in Madrid back when I lived there, doubt it's still open.
They opened one here recently. People queued up like it was an Apple store :bleeding:
Europeans appear to love Dunkin as I doubt there are that many tourists from New England to keep them all afloat.
Maybe there's a massive amount of Canadians around that I'm unaware of, because across the street they opened a large Hudson's Bay store.
Dunkin made a big push in the 1990s to expand in Spain, but it crashed and burned. Only a few survive nowadays.
I used to have coffee and donuts on the way to work since they had a small shop right on the platform of one of Barcelona's most transited subway stations - one of the few shops that still survive.
We used to have Wendy's too, but closed long ago. I liked Wendy's far more than Maccy D's.
Quote from: celedhring on November 24, 2017, 05:07:46 AM
Dunkin made a big push in the 1990s to expand in Spain, but it crashed and burned. Only a few survive nowadays.
I used to have coffee and donuts on the way to work since they had a small shop right on the platform of one of Barcelona's most transited subway stations - one of the few shops that still survive.
We used to have Wendy's too, but closed long ago. I liked Wendy's far more than Maccy D's.
Now the below is a small amount compared to how they proliferate in the US - but that's still a lot for a country to put up with as a shitty import.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunkin%27_Donuts#"Dunkin'_Coffee"_in_Spain
Quote"Dunkin' Coffee" in Spain[edit]
The term "Donuts" was already trademarked by one of the largest Spanish bakery firms, Panrico,[98] so the company was born as a joint venture between Dunkin' Donuts' then-parent Allied Domecq and Panrico (only Spanish shareholders, representing 50%) in order to use the brand name "Dunkin' Donuts". In 2007, after Dunkin' Donuts bought out Panrico's 50% share, the stores were rebranded to "Dunkin' Coffee".[99] As of 2017, there are 59 Dunkin' Coffee locations in Spain, the majority of which are in Barcelona, Madrid, and Málaga. Their slogan, "Juntos es mejor", translates to "Together is better".
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/07/29/why-dunkin-donuts-wont-be-known-as-dunkin-donuts-in-pasadena/
QuoteA subsidiary of Canton, Massachusetts-based Dunkin' Brands, Inc., Dunkin' Donuts has more than 12,200 restaurants in 45 countries worldwide, including more than 8,500 locations in the U.S.
The company has opened more than 30 locations in California in recent years and another 300 restaurants are planned. But Dunkin' figures it will eventually have as many as 1,000 locations scattered throughout the Golden State.
Fair enough, I guess I just don't go to the right (or wrong?) places. There used to be many more 10-20 years ago though.
For the sake of comparison, Starbucks has 100ish locations while the largest local chains have 300+
Quote from: celedhring on November 22, 2017, 06:23:11 PM
McDonald's has surprisingly good coffee - at least over here - given what they charge for it. They have even started creating separate coffee bars near the entrance of their establishments to attract the kind of people - like me - that would never go to a McDonald's otherwise.
It's not bad over here either. Used to be absolutely awful but has improved a lot. Prefer it to Starbuck, though that maybe damning with faint praise.
Do the Spanish use that awful UHT milk in their coffee? Assume they must do because we can never find the fresh stuff when we visit.