QuoteTerrorists are building drones. France is destroying them with eagles.
Under French military supervision, four golden eagle chicks hatched last year atop drones — born into a world of terror and machines they would be bred to destroy.
The eagles — named d'Artagnan, Athos, Porthos and Aramis — grew up with their nemeses. They chased drones through green grass that summer, pecking futilely at composite shells as seen in Sky News footage. They were rewarded with meat, which they ate off the backs of the drones.
When the eagles were ready — this month — d'Artagnan launched screeching from a military control tower across a field, Agence France-Presse reported.
The bird covered 200 meters in 20 seconds, slamming into a drone, then diving with the wreckage into the tall grass.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/21/terrorists-are-building-drones-france-is-destroying-them-with-eagles/
That is cool.
It seems like whatever the eagles could do, you could do just as well or better with counter drone drones.
France, fuck yeah.
Quote from: Berkut on April 21, 2017, 10:02:18 AM
That is cool.
It seems like whatever the eagles could do, you could do just as well or better with counter drone drones.
A saw a clip a while ago with Japanese drones carrying nets to catch other drones. it was like planet of the apes... but with drones.
Quote from: Berkut on April 21, 2017, 10:02:18 AM
That is cool.
It seems like whatever the eagles could do, you could do just as well or better with counter drone drones.
Yeah?
You think the speed, maneuverability, and instinct of hunting eagles is easily replicated with drones?
How would a counter-drone drone take out its target, do you reckon?
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Quote from: Jacob on April 21, 2017, 10:06:34 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 21, 2017, 10:02:18 AM
That is cool.
It seems like whatever the eagles could do, you could do just as well or better with counter drone drones.
Yeah?
You think the speed, maneuverability, and instinct of hunting eagles is easily replicated with drones?
How would a counter-drone drone take out its target, do you reckon?
Speed - certianly
Maneuverability - Maybe - those drones seem pretty nimble.
Instincts - Probably not. But the cost of raising eagles from hatchlings to align those instincts with drone killing seems considerable, compared to just building another cheap drone.
As far as taking them out, I don't see why a drone can't be pretty easily armed with something that can match up with some claws.
And I suspect that in actual combat ops, those eagles are going to spend a lot of time hurt. Tackling a drone out of mid air seems like a good way to get broken wings and lacerated eagle parts.
Quote from: Jacob on April 21, 2017, 10:06:34 AM
How would a counter-drone drone take out its target, do you reckon?
It could probably use a chain to tangle up its propellers or something.
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on April 21, 2017, 10:10:54 AM
Quote from: Jacob on April 21, 2017, 10:06:34 AM
How would a counter-drone drone take out its target, do you reckon?
It could probably use a chain to tangle up its propellers or something.
In any case, I am confident that people smarter than me are figuring that out.
I am rather surprised that it hasn't already been figured out, in fact.
QuoteThe eagles — named d'Artagnan, Athos, Porthos and Aramis —
I swear this couldn't possibly be any Frenchier.
I'm confident these eagles would see better use in a counter-terrorism deployment in an urban environment, say over Paris or other large cities, sporting venues and the like, as opposed to deployment to ISISland, pitted against swarms of drones.
Berkut just wants to see jobs for raptor trainers eliminated. Always with the automation. And fuck pilots, while we're at it.
Quote from: The Larch on April 21, 2017, 10:32:31 AM
QuoteThe eagles — named d'Artagnan, Athos, Porthos and Aramis —
I swear this couldn't possibly be any Frenchier.
:hmm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQhNPOxHWyk
Quote from: Berkut on April 21, 2017, 10:02:18 AM
That is cool.
It seems like whatever the eagles could do, you could do just as well or better with counter drone drones.
This ties in nicely with the robots thread: one half of population can be drone-piloting terrorists, the other drone-piloting counter-terrorists! Idle workforce would be periodically culled by one of the terrorist drones getting through.
Quote from: celedhring on April 21, 2017, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: The Larch on April 21, 2017, 10:32:31 AM
QuoteThe eagles — named d'Artagnan, Athos, Porthos and Aramis —
I swear this couldn't possibly be any Frenchier.
:hmm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQhNPOxHWyk
Love that movie. :lol:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 21, 2017, 10:34:15 AM
I'm confident these eagles would see better use in a counter-terrorism deployment in an urban environment, say over Paris or other large cities, sporting venues and the like, as opposed to deployment to ISISland, pitted against swarms of drones.
Berkut just wants to see jobs for raptor trainers eliminated. Always with the automation. And fuck pilots, while we're at it.
I'd say that they're intended for site defence, like in bases, airfields and the like. As for ways to take down drones, I think there are better ones that don't involve shooting. I know of a security company over here that has recently created a drone division, and one of the services they're advertising is "drone neutralization", and I highly doubt it involves shooting them down.
Quote from: The Larch on April 21, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 21, 2017, 10:34:15 AM
I'm confident these eagles would see better use in a counter-terrorism deployment in an urban environment, say over Paris or other large cities, sporting venues and the like, as opposed to deployment to ISISland, pitted against swarms of drones.
Berkut just wants to see jobs for raptor trainers eliminated. Always with the automation. And fuck pilots, while we're at it.
I'd say that they're intended for site defence, like in bases, airfields and the like. As for ways to take down drones, I think there are better ones that don't involve shooting. I know of a security company over here that has recently created a drone division, and one of the services they're advertising is "drone neutralization", and I highly doubt it involves shooting them down.
:yes: They use pH adjustment.
Quote from: The Larch on April 21, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
I'd say that they're intended for site defence, like in bases, airfields and the like. As for ways to take down drones, I think there are better ones that don't involve shooting. I know of a security company over here that has recently created a drone division, and one of the services they're advertising is "drone neutralization", and I highly doubt it involves shooting them down.
OK. :mellow:
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on April 21, 2017, 10:10:54 AM
Quote from: Jacob on April 21, 2017, 10:06:34 AM
How would a counter-drone drone take out its target, do you reckon?
It could probably use a chain to tangle up its propellers or something.
King Arthur: It could grip it by the husk!
Guard: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound drone.
Quote from: The Brain on April 21, 2017, 11:39:02 AM
Quote from: The Larch on April 21, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 21, 2017, 10:34:15 AM
I'm confident these eagles would see better use in a counter-terrorism deployment in an urban environment, say over Paris or other large cities, sporting venues and the like, as opposed to deployment to ISISland, pitted against swarms of drones.
Berkut just wants to see jobs for raptor trainers eliminated. Always with the automation. And fuck pilots, while we're at it.
I'd say that they're intended for site defence, like in bases, airfields and the like. As for ways to take down drones, I think there are better ones that don't involve shooting. I know of a security company over here that has recently created a drone division, and one of the services they're advertising is "drone neutralization", and I highly doubt it involves shooting them down.
:yes: They use pH adjustment.
We don't get enough chemistry jokes here.
Drones? Where?
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http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39277940
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I've seen this before, quite amazing they can avoid the propellers
Quote from: Tyr on April 23, 2017, 03:45:04 AM
I've seen this before, quite amazing they can avoid the propellers
I suppose they are used to hunting stuff that sometimes fights back; it's not always fluffy little bunnies or fish for dinner.
http://dai.ly/xzm9wc?start=175
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 23, 2017, 06:37:41 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 23, 2017, 03:45:04 AM
I've seen this before, quite amazing they can avoid the propellers
I suppose they are used to hunting stuff that sometimes fights back; it's not always fluffy little bunnies or fish for dinner.
The answer is cute little eagle shin guards
Quote from: Berkut on April 21, 2017, 10:10:05 AM
As far as taking them out, I don't see why a drone can't be pretty easily armed with something that can match up with some claws.
Something like that?
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Quote from: Berkut on April 21, 2017, 10:10:05 AM
As far as taking them out, I don't see why a drone can't be pretty easily armed with something that can match up with some claws.
I suspect these are not just to be operated in war zones. It's probably safer for the public if the French military limit the amount of high velocity shrapnel/projectiles over Paris to a minimum.
Guys it says right in the article that they're developping protective stuff for the birds, on the talons etc.
Quote from: Zoupa on April 24, 2017, 12:55:53 AM
Guys it says right in the article that they're developping protective stuff for the birds, on the talons etc.
They are still going to get hurt though.
You might as well say a knight has armor and a shield, so they can be confident to never be injured.
I do think one thing that could be an advantage to a biological weapon like this is if the plan is to basically train them, then essentially let them live in a particular area.
IE, you want them to protect a particular base, you have them nest at the base, and they are free to fly around, so you don't need a human "on guard" 24/7.
If that is NOT the plan, if they are going to be deployed situationally and where desired, I am not really sure why they would be better than another drone appropriately armed to take out other drones, whatever that might be (I am assuming such things exist already).
That's the plan the article infers.