Fight the power! :punk:
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article142682464.html#storylink=cpy
QuoteNew Pittsburg, Kan., High School principal resigns after student journalists question her credentials
By Mará Rose Williams
[email protected]
Days after student reporters at Pittsburg High School in Kansas dug into the background of their newly hired principal and found questionable credentials, she resigned from the $93,000-a-year job.
"She was going to be the head of our school, and we wanted be assured that she was qualified and had the proper credentials," said Trina Paul, a senior and an editor of the Booster Redux, the school newspaper. "We stumbled on some things that most might not consider legitimate credentials."
Minutes into a closed special meeting Tuesday night of the Pittsburg Community Schools Board of Education, board president Al Mendez emerged to announce to a packed boardroom that Amy Robertson, the new principal, had resigned.
"In light of the issues that arose, Amy Robertson felt it was in the best interest of the district to resign her position," Superintendent Destry Brown said in a statement after the executive session.
The board agreed with that decision and said will reopen the principal position Wednesday morning and contact others who had applied for the job to see if they are still interested.
"Our goal is to find the best person to be our principal that we can find," Brown said. "I know the students want that too."
Pittsburg journalism adviser Emily Smith said she is "very proud" of her students. "They were not out to get anyone to resign or to get anyone fired. They worked very hard to uncover the truth."
Students journalists published a story Friday questioning the legitimacy of the private college — Corllins University — where Robertson got her master's and doctorate degrees years ago. U.S. Department of Education officials, contacted by The Star, confirmed student reports; the federal agency could not find evidence of Corllins in operation. The school wasn't included among the agency's list of schools closed since 1986. Robertson earned her bachelor's degree from the University of Tulsa.
Students found and The Star confirmed the existence of several articles referring to Corllins as a diploma mill — where people can buy a degree, diploma or certificates. And searches on the school's website go nowhere. No one from the university responded to emails sent by The Star this week.
Contacted by email Friday, Robertson, who has lived off and on for 19 years in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, said, "The current status of Corllins University is not relevant because when I received my MA in 1994 and my PhD in 2010, there was no issue."
She also said, "All three of my degrees have been authenticated by the US government." Robertson declined to comment directly on students' questions about her credentials, saying, "I have no comment in response to the questions posed by PHS students regarding my credentials because their concerns are not based on facts."
The Pittsburg Board of Education approved hiring Robertson at its meeting March 6.
In a news release about the hiring, district spokesman Zach Fletcher said that "Robertson comes to Pittsburg with decades of experience in education."
Robertson is CEO of Atticus I S Consultants, "an education consulting firm where she gained leadership and management experience at the international equivalence of a building administrator and superintendent," the release said.
Robertson, after application reviews and interviews with administrators, faculty and students, "emerged as the best fit" for the job, said Brown. He said the district relies on the Kansas Department of Education to approve a candidate's credentials.
"I felt like she is very knowledgeable about what is going on in education today in college and career readiness, she is very familiar with Common Core, she knows about how a building works and about maintaining a safe environment," he said.
He was surprised students questioned Robertson's credentials.
"The kids had never gone through someone like this before," Brown said. But he said he encouraged them to seek answers. "I want our kids to have real-life experiences, whether it's welding or journalism."
Despite questions, Brown said Friday that the district's school board had "100 percent supported the Robertson hire."
Tuesday night he said he felt bad about how it all turned out. " I do feel it is my responsibility. As superintendent I feel like I let the teachers and the students down. I publicly admit that."
Robertson, who he said also has a teaching degree from the University of Cambridge in Cambridge, England, isn't licensed in Kansas. She would have had to take classes at Pittsburg State University, pass a test and acquire her license before she could officially hold the principal post. That isn't uncommon for someone hired from outside the state, Brown said.
Maddie Baden, a 17-year-old Pittsburg High junior, said the student news staff began looking into Robertson's background after an electronic search of her name turned up several articles published by Gulf News about an English language school connected to Robertson in Dubai.
The 2012 articles said Dubai's education authority had suspended the license for Dubai American Scientific School and accused Robertson of not being authorized to serve as principal of that school. The private, for-profit school received an "unsatisfactory" rating on Dubai education authority inspection reports every year from 2008 to 2012 and was closed in September 2013.
"That raised a red flag," Baden said. "If students could uncover all of this, I want to know why the adults couldn't find this.."
She had originally interviewed Robertson for a routine school newspaper story "to introduce the new principal to the community," Baden said. "No one knew who she was."
Pittsburg is about 90 minutes south of Kansas City on U.S. 69. The high school has 900 students.
Six students worked about three weeks looking into Robertson's past work and education.
When they went to Corllins University's website, "We found a website that didn't work," Baden said. And a student checking with the Council for Higher Education Accreditation found that Corllins was not listed in its database of 7,600 schools accredited by a recognized accrediting agency in the United States.
But officials there told The Star the school could have been accredited in the past.
Mará Rose Williams: 816-234-4419, @marawilliamskc
Good. Every authority should be questioned, even if silently.
The kids should get extra credit added to their grades while the accountable school officials should lose some of their pay.
Not good. Stupid credentialism.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 06, 2017, 01:18:04 AM
Not good. Stupid credentialism.
It is good. Lying is not good.
Quote from: garbon on April 06, 2017, 01:24:40 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 06, 2017, 01:18:04 AM
Not good. Stupid credentialism.
It is good. Lying is not good.
You went to Stanford. Your credentialism is showing. And your privilege. :P
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 06, 2017, 01:18:04 AM
Not good. Stupid credentialism.
You can argue that X credential is overkill for Y job and not needed, but as long as it's required, don't cry if you fake having it and get caught and punished.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 06, 2017, 01:36:35 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 06, 2017, 01:18:04 AM
Not good. Stupid credentialism.
You can argue that X credential is overkill for Y job and not needed, but as long as it's required, don't cry if you fake having it and get caught and punished.
What Tim said. :o
Do you guys realize how often this shit must have happened before people had The Google? I bet the country was full of fake doctors, lawyers, teachers, and so on.
Quote from: Caliga on April 06, 2017, 05:58:04 AM
Do you guys realize how often this shit must have happened before people had The Google? I bet the country was full of fake doctors, lawyers, teachers, and so on.
Oh yeah, it definitely did. There are also wikipedia cases about high profile cases than then got caught out.
Quote from: Caliga on April 06, 2017, 05:58:04 AM
Do you guys realize how often this shit must have happened before people had The Google? I bet the country was full of fake doctors, lawyers, teachers, and so on.
This fake doctor saved the lives of thousands of premature babies.
http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,14189.msg1006510.html#msg1006510
Weren't there suspicions back in the day about von Steuben not actually being a Prussian commander? Resume embelishment must have been massive in the past.
Quote from: The Larch on April 06, 2017, 06:31:16 AM
Weren't there suspicions back in the day about von Steuben not actually being a Prussian commander? Resume embelishment must have been massive in the past.
Never heard that about him. :hmm: Was he the guy who historians think was gay or was that Pulaski?
Quote from: The Larch on April 06, 2017, 06:31:16 AM
Weren't there suspicions back in the day about von Steuben not actually being a Prussian commander? Resume embelishment must have been massive in the past.
There is no question of if he was in the Prussian army, it was the matter of his rank. That was definitely inflated. Also, the nature of his title and what it entailed. His resume was most definitely embellished before he hit American shores. The common thought is that Franklin and Laurens were instrumental in "assisting" the process in Paris before sending him over with their letter of recommendation. Yes, Cal, he is the one who historians believe might have been gay. Part of my National Park Service gig is rotational operation of his post-war land grant home and burial location.
I have heard that he was dismissed from the Prussian Army for his homosexuality reported as fact before, I think in Mike Duncan's podcast, but I do not know if there is any supporting documentation for that.
It was kind of bummer about how he trained the Continental Army to be high quality infantry on the Prussian model, they then fought one battle, and then sat around the rest of the war (until Yorktown). Never even got to really put those skills to the test.
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on April 06, 2017, 08:44:33 AM
Quote from: The Larch on April 06, 2017, 06:31:16 AM
Weren't there suspicions back in the day about von Steuben not actually being a Prussian commander? Resume embelishment must have been massive in the past.
There is no question of if he was in the Prussian army, it was the matter of his rank. That was definitely inflated. Also, the nature of his title and what it entailed. His resume was most definitely embellished before he hit American shores. The common thought is that Franklin and Laurens were instrumental in "assisting" the process in Paris before sending him over with their letter of recommendation. Yes, Cal, he is the one who historians believe might have been gay. Part of my National Park Service gig is rotational operation of his post-war land grant home and burial location.
Ok, thanks, I had read somewhere that he was not who he claimed to be and at least parts of his background story had been fabricated. Maybe it was from Duncan, as Valmy says. IIRC it was also mentioned that he played up his aristocratic roots by behaving very pompously and travelling around with an oversized entourage of servants, in order to prop up his fabricated background.
Quote from: Caliga on April 06, 2017, 05:58:04 AM
Do you guys realize how often this shit must have happened before people had The Google?
Every Saturday morning. And they all would've gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddlesome kids.
Sounds like there's a job opening for someone with education experience.
Quote from: Caliga on April 06, 2017, 05:58:04 AM
Do you guys realize how often this shit must have happened before people had The Google? I bet the country was full of fake doctors, lawyers, teachers, and so on.
It is also now much harder to be a fake man or woman. :(
It's not that she lied, it's that she's poor and she lied.
Even if you toss out the diploma mill, one would think a legit BA and teaching degree from mother-fucking Cambridge UK would get you some street cred.
The heaviest black mark, I think, is that apparent record of driving that Dubai school into the ground. But then it is freakin' Dubai, so that could just be some Wahabi bureaucrat hating on non-males in leadership roles.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 06, 2017, 01:36:35 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 06, 2017, 01:18:04 AM
Not good. Stupid credentialism.
You can argue that X credential is overkill for Y job and not needed, but as long as it's required, don't cry if you fake having it and get caught and punished.
Does it actually say in the article that the Master's and Doctorate were required for the position of Principal?
Quote from: The Larch on April 06, 2017, 09:52:10 AM
Ok, thanks, I had read somewhere that he was not who he claimed to be and at least parts of his background story had been fabricated. Maybe it was from Duncan, as Valmy says. IIRC it was also mentioned that he played up his aristocratic roots by behaving very pompously and travelling around with an oversized entourage of servants, in order to prop up his fabricated background.
If you get a chance, watch the Drunk History episode that has his story in it. It's actually pretty solid. Bonus: David Cross plays Steuben.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.images.comedycentral.com%2Fimages%2Fshows%2Fdrunk_history%2Fvideos%2Fdrunkhistory_02_0209_von_steuben.jpg&hash=397fad64a1b00d60ad0dcf34b46a802c12881369)
But then you have to watch Drunk History. :(
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on April 06, 2017, 07:00:59 PM
Quote from: The Larch on April 06, 2017, 09:52:10 AM
Ok, thanks, I had read somewhere that he was not who he claimed to be and at least parts of his background story had been fabricated. Maybe it was from Duncan, as Valmy says. IIRC it was also mentioned that he played up his aristocratic roots by behaving very pompously and travelling around with an oversized entourage of servants, in order to prop up his fabricated background.
If you get a chance, watch the Drunk History episode that has his story in it. It's actually pretty solid. Bonus: David Cross plays Steuben.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.images.comedycentral.com%2Fimages%2Fshows%2Fdrunk_history%2Fvideos%2Fdrunkhistory_02_0209_von_steuben.jpg&hash=397fad64a1b00d60ad0dcf34b46a802c12881369)
:lol: Love David Cross since I watched Arrested Development, I'll look it up. :thumbsup: