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Title: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: jimmy olsen on February 15, 2017, 06:53:58 PM
You've been appointed to an open senate seat in your state by the governor (or you've been elected in a by election, whatever) and you're gearing up to filibuster a bill you hate. What do are you going to read out loud to fill the time?
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 15, 2017, 06:55:38 PM
Nothing, since they killed that requirement.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: jimmy olsen on February 15, 2017, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 15, 2017, 06:55:38 PM
Nothing, since they killed that requirement.

They brought it back just for you.

What do you read?
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 15, 2017, 07:03:08 PM
I'd sing American Pie.  It lasts a week.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: MadBurgerMaker on February 15, 2017, 07:05:02 PM
An irritating Mystery Science Theater type commentary over a Lord of the Rings marathon.  Plug one of those little portable projectors into my phone and voila:  everyone is unhappy.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Valmy on February 15, 2017, 07:33:13 PM
I would read the complete works of Aristotle in their original Attic Greek.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: 11B4V on February 15, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
Mein Kampf
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Monoriu on February 15, 2017, 08:00:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 15, 2017, 06:53:58 PM
You've been appointed to an open senate seat in your state by the governor (or you've been elected in a by election, whatever) and you're gearing up to filibuster a bill you hate. What do are you going to read out loud to fill the time?

I will never filibuster a bill I hate.  I vote against it, but never filibuster. 
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: HVC on February 15, 2017, 08:33:53 PM
The bible. The republicans wouldn't dare stop a holy endeavour.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Valmy on February 15, 2017, 08:35:02 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 15, 2017, 08:33:53 PM
The bible. The republicans wouldn't dare stop a holy endeavour.

Nice. Make sure to throw in all the apocrypha.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Ed Anger on February 15, 2017, 08:36:04 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on February 15, 2017, 07:52:58 PM
Mein Kampf

Thanks for stealing my line.  :lol:

Gor. All of them.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 15, 2017, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 15, 2017, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 15, 2017, 06:55:38 PM
Nothing, since they killed that requirement.

They brought it back just for you.

What do you read?

Nothing. I let one of the other 40 Senators against the bill handle it.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Razgovory on February 15, 2017, 09:11:24 PM
Some of those awful books published by Baen.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Ed Anger on February 15, 2017, 09:13:50 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 15, 2017, 09:11:24 PM
Some of those awful books published by Baen.

Infodumps are cruel and unusual punishment.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Grey Fox on February 15, 2017, 09:43:43 PM
Let's assume I'm a Democrat.

I'm reading the Bible, than the Coran, than a Hindu book.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: HVC on February 15, 2017, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on February 15, 2017, 09:43:43 PM
Let's assume I'm a Democrat.

I'm reading the Bible, than the Coran, than a Hindu book.

Do the Koran last, they'll stop your ass fast on that one.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Razgovory on February 15, 2017, 10:28:45 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 15, 2017, 09:13:50 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 15, 2017, 09:11:24 PM
Some of those awful books published by Baen.

Infodumps are cruel and unusual punishment.

John Ringo, literary criminal.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: jimmy olsen on February 15, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 15, 2017, 10:28:45 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 15, 2017, 09:13:50 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 15, 2017, 09:11:24 PM
Some of those awful books published by Baen.

Infodumps are cruel and unusual punishment.

John Ringo, literary criminal.

:punk:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.gr-assets.com%2Fimages%2FS%2Fcompressed.photo.goodreads.com%2Fbooks%2F1388610379i%2F80955._UY475_SS475_.jpg&hash=774c1d86c61a26e7094c5244e1d384c46d93bee6)
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on February 16, 2017, 01:58:06 PM
I'm reading The Deluge atm. That one seems suitable. Wait a minute, Swedes are bad guys?  :huh:
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: alfred russel on February 16, 2017, 02:01:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on February 15, 2017, 08:33:53 PM
The bible. The republicans wouldn't dare stop a holy endeavour.

Good one.  :D

I'd read the most inane materials I know of to bore my opposition into submission. Probably a complete anthology of Tim posts.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Drakken on February 16, 2017, 02:48:22 PM
Each and all of the contemporary reviews of the time who tore Atlas Shrugged to shreds and concluded that it sucks as a novel AND a philosophical treatise - including the one by Soviet double agent Whittaker Chambers.

All that, while looking straight at Paul Ryan all the time.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Zanza on February 16, 2017, 03:00:49 PM
The secondary legislation of the European Union. That's about 200,000 pages. Should be sufficient to filibuster until the next election.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Syt on February 16, 2017, 03:08:18 PM
I would probably go with the works of Shakespeare. And voice act each role.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Tonitrus on February 16, 2017, 03:24:12 PM
The collected works of Harry Turtledove.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: The Brain on February 16, 2017, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 16, 2017, 01:58:06 PM
I'm reading The Deluge atm. That one seems suitable. Wait a minute, Swedes are bad guys?  :huh:

Do I scare you?

Do you want me to?
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: dps on February 16, 2017, 05:12:10 PM
Any public speaker worth his salt doesn't read from anything in such a situation;  he speaks extemporaneously.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: The Brain on February 16, 2017, 05:17:59 PM
I would put forth a slice... nay a cake of personal philosophy.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 16, 2017, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on February 16, 2017, 03:24:12 PM
The collected works of Harry Turtledove.

Why do that to yourself?
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Capetan Mihali on February 16, 2017, 07:15:15 PM
OvB's Collected Posts, 2009-present.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: jimmy olsen on February 16, 2017, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 16, 2017, 07:15:15 PM
OvB's Collected Posts, 2009-present.

Some good posts in there

Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on July 25, 2011, 10:40:09 PM
I would consider 1859 America a Democracy. A modern Democracy? No. But it wasn't the modern era, it was 1859. By any normal standard of categorizing governments "democratic Republic" is the most mainstream term that would fit with 1859 America. Politicians were very susceptible to the vagaries of public opinion, elections in which many persons participated genuinely elected leaders and etc.

An oligarchy is a lot different, so to say that an oligarchy and a Democracy with a restrictive franchise are the same thing isn't really true.

That being said it matters not the type of government, slaves have an absolute right to rebellion, period. No slave does wrong when they kill in order to end their enslavement, further, no man does wrong when he kills a slave owner or a protector of slave owners. Those who take and keep slaves are "enemies of mankind" (Hostis humani generis) and in the absence of government that addresses this the ancient and natural laws take over and individuals have a right to use violence and homicide to stop evil actions.

Now, where I get off the train is John Brown's raid was insanely stupid. No rational actor would have believed it had any chance for success, further, it had virtually no chance of even starting a proper slave rebellion. Further still, John Brown basically killed a few innocent people in a small town in Virginia that was not a major plantation area, the people killed by John Brown were townsfolk, not plantation owners. One of the people killed in the raid was just a train baggage handler passing through. They also killed one of the marines that stormed "the fort", but that's sort of the name of the game in that regard. Nat Turner lead a slave revolt, Spartacus lead a slave revolt, John Brown just murdered a few random people and then got his followers killed or executed in short order.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Capetan Mihali on February 16, 2017, 07:26:09 PM
A post about 1859 America makes for appropriate filibuster material, indeed.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: celedhring on February 17, 2017, 08:28:33 AM
Let's go all in. I'd preface with the Communist Manifesto followed up with The April Theses and The State and The Revolution, then Engel's Socialism, padding it up with The Capital if necessary.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Grey Fox on February 17, 2017, 08:30:34 AM
Oh. Mao's little red book.

Empty chamber by 2 am.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Josquius on February 17, 2017, 09:58:43 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 15, 2017, 06:55:38 PM
Nothing, since they killed that requirement.
So how does it work now?
"assume I am speaking for 20 hours. Ha.  No bill"
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Archy on February 17, 2017, 09:59:24 AM
The Code Napoleon to stick it to you common law types :ph34r:
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 17, 2017, 10:09:17 AM
Quote from: Tyr on February 17, 2017, 09:58:43 AM
So how does it work now?
"assume I am speaking for 20 hours. Ha.  No bill"

Something like you enter a motion for continuation of debate, and the only way to end debate and therefore vote on the bill/motion, is to get 60 votes.

So yeah, in effect you say "I'm filibustering" and then leave.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: FunkMonk on February 17, 2017, 10:25:37 AM
The Art of the Deal, baby  :cool:
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Delirium on February 17, 2017, 10:27:33 AM
The rules to Advanced Squad Leader, paperback edition.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Valmy on February 17, 2017, 11:43:16 AM
Quote from: Delirium on February 17, 2017, 10:27:33 AM
The rules to Advanced Squad Leader, paperback edition.

:lol:
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Ed Anger on February 17, 2017, 09:42:49 PM
star fleet battles rulebook, with all the expansions. And errata.

TOP THAT
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: PDH on February 17, 2017, 10:32:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 17, 2017, 09:42:49 PM
star fleet battles rulebook, with all the expansions. And errata.

TOP THAT

Ahem...

The complete rulebook and then a turn by turn recap of an entire game of Campaign for North Africa.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Ed Anger on February 17, 2017, 10:36:55 PM
Quote from: PDH on February 17, 2017, 10:32:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 17, 2017, 09:42:49 PM
star fleet battles rulebook, with all the expansions. And errata.

TOP THAT

Ahem...

The complete rulebook and then a turn by turn recap of an entire game of Campaign for North Africa.

And the paperwork from the Pax Brittanica game. ALL NATIONS.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: PDH on February 17, 2017, 10:41:19 PM
Hmmm,

Reading a production phase, stack by stack move, and attack (and mech move) for the first 5 turns of the 1941 scenario of War In Europe then having to do the WHOLE DAMN THING OVER because Mike didn't realize some stupid thing in the rules not allowing the Bulgarians to join in Barbarossa.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Ed Anger on February 17, 2017, 10:49:03 PM
"Can we start over? I screwed up my production"
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: mongers on February 19, 2017, 09:25:48 AM
I'd go with the complete 'The Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy'. :bowler:

And some politicians might even learn a thing or two from it.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: grumbler on February 19, 2017, 04:38:47 PM
Quote from: Syt on February 16, 2017, 03:08:18 PM
I would probably go with the works of Shakespeare Tim. And voice act each role.

I like the idea of combining your suggestion with AR's.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: 11B4V on February 19, 2017, 05:58:02 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 19, 2017, 04:38:47 PM
Quote from: Syt on February 16, 2017, 03:08:18 PM
I would probably go with the works of Shakespeare Tim. And voice act each role.

I like the idea of combining your suggestion with AR's.

Hell go with the works of Languish and voice each role.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 20, 2017, 12:01:34 AM
Do a Jeff Foxworthy impression when reading Bravos lines.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: grumbler on February 20, 2017, 01:49:48 AM
James Earl Jones (fellow Michigan Man) does my lines.  Who does yours, Languish?
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Monoriu on February 20, 2017, 01:57:13 AM
Ben Stiller.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 20, 2017, 02:43:57 AM
The guy who voices Apu on the Simpsons.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: 11B4V on February 20, 2017, 03:05:46 PM
Kevin Hart as Seedy
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Jacob on February 20, 2017, 03:08:19 PM
Someone should read all the posts from languish in chronological order. That'd be great.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: LaCroix on February 20, 2017, 03:15:48 PM
ozymandias from the watchmen movie
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Drakken on February 20, 2017, 03:34:04 PM
Lena Dunham.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: garbon on February 20, 2017, 03:36:55 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 20, 2017, 03:08:19 PM
Someone should read all the posts from languish in chronological order. That'd be great.

We'd need vM to make the archives available first.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 20, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 20, 2017, 01:49:48 AM
James Earl Jones (fellow Michigan Man) does my lines.  Who does yours, Languish?

Ed gets Rex Allen, Jr from Me, Myself and Irene.  I wind up with Nick Cage from Raising Arizona.  Or perhaps Ice T from The Other Guys
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Syt on February 20, 2017, 03:52:03 PM
Nah, as I keep saying, you'll be Joe Pesci in Casino or Lewis Black.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 20, 2017, 03:53:54 PM
lol, Nicky's voiceover in Casino.  THE FUCK THE FUCK THE FUCK
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: alfred russel on February 20, 2017, 04:51:18 PM
Ken Dorsey. With Ray Lewis giving him breaks every once in a while.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: HVC on February 20, 2017, 05:57:30 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 20, 2017, 03:08:19 PM
Someone should read all the posts from languish in chronological order. That'd be great.

That would be best as replies jump from thread to thread and would make no sense
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Razgovory on February 20, 2017, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 20, 2017, 01:49:48 AM
James Earl Jones (fellow Michigan Man) does my lines.  Who does yours, Languish?

Billy West as Dr. Zoidberg.
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 20, 2017, 09:21:41 PM
Why not Raz?
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: MadImmortalMan on February 21, 2017, 04:27:05 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 20, 2017, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: grumbler on February 20, 2017, 01:49:48 AM
James Earl Jones (fellow Michigan Man) does my lines.  Who does yours, Languish?

Billy West as Dr. Zoidberg.

I always read your posts in a Rain Man voice. So Dustin Hoffman for you.  :P
Title: Re: What do you read from if you are doing a filibuster in the Senate?
Post by: DontSayBanana on February 21, 2017, 02:15:20 PM
I'd read The Silmarilion, The Hobbit, and The Lord of the Rings straight through in the goofiest voice I could muster.  Maybe John Leguizamo's Sid voice from the Ice Age movies.