Probably not, but still, the stuff some of the state reps come up with. :P
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/south-carolina-porn-blocker-installed-new-internet-connected-devices/
QuoteSouth Carolina may require device makers and sellers to block porn out of the box
The state of South Carolina may eventually start generating revenue by blocking residents from accessing pornography. State Representative William "Bill" Chumley (R-Spartanburg) intends to make a change to the state Human Trafficking Prevention Act (HTPA) that requires all new internet-connected devices to automatically block obscene, adult content right out of the box.
The proposed change to the HTPA will require manufacturers or sellers of new computers, smartphones, tablets, and other internet-connected devices to install digital blocking capabilities. If the new devices are sold without the porn-blocker installed, the manufacturer or seller will be required to pay a fine. To prevent a possible fine, the manufacturer or seller can choose to pay a $20 opt-out fee for each device offered without the blocker.
On the consumer side, buyers who want the porn blocker deactivated on their new device must themselves pay a $20 fee. However, that fee can't be paid automatically: owners of new devices must verify that they are aged 18 or older, request in writing that the blocker be disabled, and acknowledge that they received a written warning regarding the potential dangers that may arise by disabling the blocker. Then customers can pay the $20 fee.
The digital porn blocking solution provided by manufacturers or sellers will also be required to block access to online hubs and websites that facilitate human trafficking. Means for reporting obscene content that slips through the blocker's filters must be provided in the porn-blocking solution as well.
Chumley told GoUpstate that human trafficking has recently "exploded" and become a "real problem." In South Carolina alone, the National Human Trafficking Hotline has received 1,330 calls and reported 308 cases since 2007. Atlanta, Georgia, and Charlotte, North Carolina, fall within the top 20 cities in the United States for human sex trafficking. These two cities are connected by Interstate 85, which passes through the upper portion of South Carolina.
According to Chumley, this area is a "hotbed" for human trafficking. Even more, local officials believe the current sex trafficking numbers are even higher given that many victims refuse to come forward, or cases simply aren't reported.
Money generated from the fines and fees will be applied to the human trafficking task force of the South Carolina Attorney General's Office. The amendment is backed by state Representative Mike Burns (R-Greenville) who, like Chumley, sees the proposal as a way to block sexually explicit material from the eyes of children, and to help achieve an overall reduction of sex crimes against children.
"If we could have manufacturers install filters that would be shipped to South Carolina, then anything that children have access on for pornography would be blocked," Chumley said. "We felt like that would be another way to fight human trafficking."
:lol:
Because once that juicy South Carolinian market is blocked off the world wide pornography market will die!
But really they would pretty much have to shut down the entire internet to make this happen. These guys seem to think adult material is confined to a few blockable and identifiable XXX sites. Which is amazing. I can understand being out of touch with current trends but out of touch with 20 year old trends?
I thought the rate of porn viewership dropped dramatically with Ide leaving state.
20$ to sell unblocked devices? Looks like a thinly disguised porn tax to me.
Only thing missing is a public registry of those who paid the $20 fee.
Quote from: derspiess on December 20, 2016, 09:54:10 AM
Only thing missing is a public registry of those who paid the $20 fee.
And they are forced to drag the rock of shame behind them wherever they go.
if the republicans pass this SC will become a democrat state :P
Quote from: Valmy on December 20, 2016, 09:57:37 AM
Quote from: derspiess on December 20, 2016, 09:54:10 AM
Only thing missing is a public registry of those who paid the $20 fee.
And they are forced to drag the rock of shame behind them wherever they go.
And to celebrate if someone stops using it he gets the rock of glory.
They came for the porn and I said "Stop!" :ultra:
Since the topic has come up... how do I, as a parent, block my kids from being able to access porn, either on a PC/Mac, but also on an iPad?
Up till now their only computer experience has been an iPad. Since they can't read, they're just picking at pictures that look interesting. But Timmy is in grade 1 and learning to read. Pretty sure he'll learn about search engines.
I mean I'm sure that whatever blockers I can install he'll eventually figure out how to get around. But I'd rather him be in his teens when he first discovers hard-core pornography, and not 8.
most kids that age "accidently" access porn through image searches, so make sure that the parental locks in google are on. but he'll quickly figure that one out. beyond that I don't know much about parental blockers, but Kaspersky comes with one.
Quote from: Barrister on December 20, 2016, 11:30:14 AM
Since the topic has come up... how do I, as a parent, block my kids from being able to access porn, either on a PC/Mac, but also on an iPad?
Up till now their only computer experience has been an iPad. Since they can't read, they're just picking at pictures that look interesting. But Timmy is in grade 1 and learning to read. Pretty sure he'll learn about search engines.
I mean I'm sure that whatever blockers I can install he'll eventually figure out how to get around. But I'd rather him be in his teens when he first discovers hard-core pornography, and not 8.
Fun times to be a parent, eh?
Quote from: HVC on December 20, 2016, 11:58:59 AM
most kids that age "accidently" access porn through image searches, so make sure that the parental locks in google are on. but he'll quickly figure that one out. beyond that I don't know much about parental blockers, but Kaspersky comes with one.
When traveling for business, with just a work laptop with all sorts of blockers, I'd just turn off safesearch and do a google image search of say "cute asian lady" and all sorts of naughty images would pop up.
However, since October I've given up porn. I'll keep this going at least through 2017. :)
Quote from: alfred russel on December 20, 2016, 12:15:35 PM
Quote from: HVC on December 20, 2016, 11:58:59 AM
most kids that age "accidently" access porn through image searches, so make sure that the parental locks in google are on. but he'll quickly figure that one out. beyond that I don't know much about parental blockers, but Kaspersky comes with one.
When traveling for business, with just a work laptop with all sorts of blockers, I'd just turn off safesearch and do a google image search of say "cute asian lady" and all sorts of naughty images would pop up.
However, since October I've given up porn. I'll keep this going at least through 2017. :)
You're a brave man. Even with "all sorts of blockers", if they find you've been looking at porn on a company computer that can get you fired.
Quote from: Barrister on December 20, 2016, 12:30:55 PM
You're a brave man. Even with "all sorts of blockers", if they find you've been looking at porn on a company computer that can get you fired.
Dude he is an adventure rock climber. He laughs in the face of danger.
Quote from: derspiess on December 20, 2016, 12:14:43 PM
Quote from: Barrister on December 20, 2016, 11:30:14 AM
Since the topic has come up... how do I, as a parent, block my kids from being able to access porn, either on a PC/Mac, but also on an iPad?
Up till now their only computer experience has been an iPad. Since they can't read, they're just picking at pictures that look interesting. But Timmy is in grade 1 and learning to read. Pretty sure he'll learn about search engines.
I mean I'm sure that whatever blockers I can install he'll eventually figure out how to get around. But I'd rather him be in his teens when he first discovers hard-core pornography, and not 8.
Fun times to be a parent, eh?
Indeed.
While I may have seen the odd issue of Playboy while staying at an aunt and uncle's house, in order to see porn I was 18 and had to go to the back of a grubby magazine shop downtown. Plus at that point I had some first hand experience so my mind wasn't completely warped to think that was what sex was actually like.
Quote from: Barrister on December 20, 2016, 12:30:55 PM
You're a brave man. Even with "all sorts of blockers", if they find you've been looking at porn on a company computer that can get you fired.
I have zero concern about that. There is no way the leadership of my group would stand for firing people because they looked at porn in a hotel room while on a business trip.
Now other stuff I've done online, that could be different.
Also, to sidetrack this discussion a bit, does that even constitute "looking at porn"?
If I do a google image search for "cute asian lady", lots of images pop up. Who is to say I was looking for / focusing on the naughty ones?
Quote from: alfred russel on December 20, 2016, 01:01:55 PM
Also, to sidetrack this discussion a bit, does that even constitute "looking at porn"?
If I do a google image search for "cute asian lady", lots of images pop up. Who is to say I was looking for / focusing on the naughty ones?
It doesn't really matter how you got to that site - all that matters is they can see that you're accessing various .xxx kind of sites.
Now if you're looking at cheesecake pictures of models that appear on more "mainstream sites that's one thing. But I don't think that's what you're talking about.
Quote from: Barrister on December 20, 2016, 11:30:14 AM
Since the topic has come up... how do I, as a parent, block my kids from being able to access porn, either on a PC/Mac, but also on an iPad?
Up till now their only computer experience has been an iPad. Since they can't read, they're just picking at pictures that look interesting. But Timmy is in grade 1 and learning to read. Pretty sure he'll learn about search engines.
I mean I'm sure that whatever blockers I can install he'll eventually figure out how to get around. But I'd rather him be in his teens when he first discovers hard-core pornography, and not 8.
This is probably a good starting point for you: http://www.imore.com/how-block-specific-websites-being-accessed-safari-iphone-and-ipad
Quote from: Barrister on December 20, 2016, 01:17:16 PM
It doesn't really matter how you got to that site - all that matters is they can see that you're accessing various .xxx kind of sites.
Now if you're looking at cheesecake pictures of models that appear on more "mainstream sites that's one thing. But I don't think that's what you're talking about.
But I'm not going to the sites. Those are blocked. Just do the search and you have 1,000 pictures or whatever google image returns, and many of those are quite naughty. Way more pictures and far dirtier content than a whole year's subscription to playboy would get you back in the day.
Quote from: Barrister on December 20, 2016, 11:30:14 AM
Since the topic has come up... how do I, as a parent, block my kids from being able to access porn, either on a PC/Mac, but also on an iPad?
Up till now their only computer experience has been an iPad. Since they can't read, they're just picking at pictures that look interesting. But Timmy is in grade 1 and learning to read. Pretty sure he'll learn about search engines.
I mean I'm sure that whatever blockers I can install he'll eventually figure out how to get around. But I'd rather him be in his teens when he first discovers hard-core pornography, and not 8.
many antivirus&firewall products come with a parental firewall of sort. I know Eset Smart Security has it, and I figure most if not all non free anti-virus have it too. They block known domain and keywords to contain porn, I think. You input a password that will be required to change the configuration, usually.
It will work fine on a 8 year old, but just don't expect it to work until he reaches 18 ;)
And that's why you use a private phone, hotel WiFi and a proxy page when on business travel.
Or so I've heard.
This actually had me reflecting on a story that a now senior leader in my company (David) loves to tell (privately).
It is a story of how our company website came into being. It was the 90s and an older gentlemen was required to approve the budget. So David went to his office to explain the need, and the guy said, "David, I just have one question for you. What is this 'internet'?" And David said, "come downstairs and I'll show you." So David took him downstairs to his computer, pulled up a browser, and the first thing that came up was a porn site that David had been visiting, with an attractive naked woman on screen.
And the old guy said, "I like this internet. Your budget is approved."
A couple weeks later, HR sent a notification to the old guy that David had been accessing porn at work. The old guy told HR, "David was performing research for a critical company project. He should receive a reward for the service he is providing to this company."
:lol:
Quote from: viper37 on December 20, 2016, 01:25:12 PM
many antivirus&firewall products come with a parental firewall of sort. I know Eset Smart Security has it, and I figure most if not all non free anti-virus have it too. They block known domain and keywords to contain porn, I think. You input a password that will be required to change the configuration, usually.
It will work fine on a 8 year old, but just don't expect it to work until he reaches 18 ;)
On top of the parental controls, I made my 8 year old fully aware that I can and will check his search & browsing history. Worst I've found so far was him googling whether Santa or Elf on the Shelf are real.
My best friend's daughter got duped into searching for adult material by a friend of hers who had gotten busted for doing it at her own house. I'm dreading having "the talk" with my kids as it is; can't imagine having to do that when they're in 1st or 2nd grade.
How long until Tomasino figures out how to delete his browsing history? :ph34r:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 20, 2016, 03:57:15 PM
How long until Tomasino figures out how to delete his browsing history? :ph34r:
That at least is easy to see as well.
What about when he discovers private browsing modes? :ph34r:
But you can't really blame a kid for wondering about Santa or that damn Elf on the Shelf.
I'd be interested to hear what "talk" the parents here will give, or have already given, on porn.
Or did you mean the sex talk Speesh?
"-When a producer loves money very, very much..."
So I googled that Santa question and apparently he is.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 20, 2016, 04:39:24 PM
So I googled that Santa question and apparently he is.
Told you Virginia.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 20, 2016, 04:05:14 PM
I'd be interested to hear what "talk" the parents here will give, or have already given, on porn.
Or did you mean the sex talk Speesh?
Wait was I not supposed to talk to my six year old about porn yet? I just figured I would rather he hear it from me.
Quote from: Barrister on December 20, 2016, 11:30:14 AM
Since the topic has come up... how do I, as a parent, block my kids from being able to access porn, either on a PC/Mac, but also on an iPad?
Up till now their only computer experience has been an iPad. Since they can't read, they're just picking at pictures that look interesting. But Timmy is in grade 1 and learning to read. Pretty sure he'll learn about search engines.
I mean I'm sure that whatever blockers I can install he'll eventually figure out how to get around. But I'd rather him be in his teens when he first discovers hard-core pornography, and not 8.
It's all going to depend on how far you want to go. The "softest" technique would be more of a rules based approach, tell your kids what they can/can't do on the internet, and tell them if they accidentally end up on a site they know they shouldn't, they should navigate away. Kids are smarter about this than people give them credit for--then you track it and if you catch them breaking the rules they lose internet privileges for awhile.
A middle road would be software that basically tries to implement a good "blacklist" of known (and frequently updated) inappropriate sites, and usually it has some heuristics engine that can sometimes make evaluations "on the fly" too. These are "pretty decent" and are about the equivalent of the solutions corporations/enterprises use to block sites from being accessed at work. They aren't 100% full proof, but they're "pretty good", and depending on if your kid is really persistent/tech savvy they may be all you ever need.
The most extreme would be software that, when on, blocks your computer from hitting any domain/address that isn't on a pre-approved whitelist. A lot of times software that does blacklisting has a mode that works this way, but there is some dedicated software that does it too.
Quote from: derspiess on December 20, 2016, 03:54:05 PM
Quote from: viper37 on December 20, 2016, 01:25:12 PM
many antivirus&firewall products come with a parental firewall of sort. I know Eset Smart Security has it, and I figure most if not all non free anti-virus have it too. They block known domain and keywords to contain porn, I think. You input a password that will be required to change the configuration, usually.
It will work fine on a 8 year old, but just don't expect it to work until he reaches 18 ;)
On top of the parental controls, I made my 8 year old fully aware that I can and will check his search & browsing history. Worst I've found so far was him googling whether Santa or Elf on the Shelf are real.
A true libertarian would let their kids learn for themselves ;)
But yeah, it's sensible policy, until their late teens probably, to regularly check their devices. Not so much for porn once they're 12-13, but more for suspicious activities like new "friends" appearing out of nowhere. Pedophiles are hunters, and Facebook (and other social media) are often their first line of attack.
Ah, and if you have a webcam on a laptop, tape it. Seriously. These things are often easy to hack.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 20, 2016, 04:05:14 PM
I'd be interested to hear what "talk" the parents here will give, or have already given, on porn.
Or did you mean the sex talk Speesh?
:lol: Birds and the bees. Since she witnessed it in living color, they had to tell her what it was.
Quote from: Barrister on December 20, 2016, 04:01:44 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 20, 2016, 03:57:15 PM
How long until Tomasino figures out how to delete his browsing history? :ph34r:
That at least is easy to see as well.
What about when he discovers private browsing modes? :ph34r:
Oh, it'll be an arms race I'm sure.
QuoteBut you can't really blame a kid for wondering about Santa or that damn Elf on the Shelf.
I know. I think he's figured it out. He's in third grade, same year I officially stopped believing. He approached me about it the same way I told my mom-- by saying some kids in his class don't believe in Santa to gauge my reaction, and then later hinting that he had doubts. I've been vague in my responses, other than to fire a warning shot across his bow that he better not ruin it for his sister.
Quote from: derspiess on December 20, 2016, 04:59:35 PM
I know. I think he's figured it out. He's in third grade, same year I officially stopped believing. He approached me about it the same way I told my mom-- by saying some kids in his class don't believe in Santa to gauge my reaction, and then later hinting that he had doubts. I've been vague in my responses, other than to fire a warning shot across his bow that he better not ruin it for his sister.
I find this sort of thing fascinating to watch.
Neither my wife nor I were raised with the belief in Santa Claus - my Christmas traditions are different and she doesn't really have any - so it's not something we are going to use in our family.
That said, I guess I'll have to figure out the best way to encourage him not to ruin it for other kids so it's not purely academical.
My recall is that I figured it out pretty early on, but that it seemed like my parents got such a kick out of it that I should play along with it for their sake.
Timmy has mentioned a couple times that other kids in his class don't believe in Santa so I thought he had it all figured out. But we started the Elf on the Shelf this year - and one of the rules is you're not allowed to touch the elf. So when one day the elf was hiding on top of a wall clock, and it got pumped and the elf fell, and Mrs B picked up the elf to put him back - Timmy was super concerned he wasn't going to come back. There's no way he was faking that.
I can't recall a time when I believed in Santa Claus.
Quote from: Syt on December 20, 2016, 06:37:11 AM
Probably not, but still, the stuff some of the state reps come up with. :P
No, South Carolina has absolutely nothing better to do.
Quote from: celedhring on December 20, 2016, 09:05:35 AM
20$ to sell unblocked devices? Looks like a thinly disguised porn tax to me.
Yep, read the first sentence in the article.
I don't remember it ever being put to me that Santa was real.
Quote from: The Brain on December 20, 2016, 05:39:49 PM
I don't remember it ever being put to me that Santa was real.
My mom got way more out of it than I did. Even when I got older she marked certain presents as being from Santa. I don't think she ever acknowledged he's not real.