Trying to get the Puritans back, eh?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/23/censor-non-conventional-sex-acts-online-internet-pornography?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech
QuoteUK to censor online videos of 'non-conventional' sex acts
Campaigners label bill targeted at online pornography a 'prurient' intervention that will take Britain's censorship regime back to pre-internet era
Web users in the UK will be banned from accessing websites portraying a range of nonconventional sexual acts, under a little discussed clause to a government bill currently going through parliament.
The proposal, part of the digital economy bill, would force internet service providers to block sites hosting content that would not be certified for commercial DVD sale by the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC).
It is contained within provisions of the bill designed to enforce strict age verification checks to stop children accessing adult websites. After pressure from MPs, the culture secretary, Karen Bradley, announced on Saturday that the government would amend the bill to include powers to block non-compliant websites.
In order to comply with the censorship rules, many mainstream adult websites would have to render whole sections inaccessible to UK audiences. That is despite the acts shown being legal for consenting over-16s to perform and for adults in almost all other liberal countries to film, distribute and watch.
Free speech campaigners labelled the move a "prurient" invasion into people's sexual lives. "It should not be the business of government to regulate what kinds of consensual adult sex can be viewed by adults," said Jodie Ginsberg, chief executive of Index on Censorship.
Pictures and videos that show spanking, whipping or caning that leaves marks, and sex acts involving urination, female ejaculation or menstruation as well as sex in public are likely to be caught by the ban – in effect turning back the clock on Britain's censorship regime to the pre-internet era.
The scale of the restrictions only became apparent after the BBFC, which has since 1984 been empowered to classify videos for commercial hire or sale, agreed to become the online age verification regulator last month. A spokeswoman for the BBFC said it would also check whether sites host "pornographic content that we would refuse to classify".
"In making this assessment, we will apply the standards that we apply to pornography that is distributed offline," she said. "If a website fails on either of these [age verification or obscene content] tests then a notification of non-compliance will be sent to the site."
There is no definitive list of sexual acts proscribed by the BBFC, but many adult film producers who have worked with the regulator have been forced to cut scenes, said Jerry Barnett, a free speech campaigner and author of Porn Panic!, which details the rise of a new pro-censorship movement in the UK.
"Although it is nominally designed to enforce the [Obscene Publications Act] guidelines of the Crown Prosecution Service, in practice it draws far tighter lines, many of them inexplicable. The ban on female ejaculation is a particularly strange example," he said.
The censorship regime has led to bizarre understandings between the producers and regulators, Barnett said. One is the "four-finger rule", which limits the number of digits that can be inserted into an orifice for sexual stimulation.
Even some who back age verification questioned such strict censorship. "It's mad that we regulate such material that aren't even criminal acts," said Prof Clare McGlynn, an expert on pornography laws at Durham University and co-founder of the Centre for Gender Equal Media.
"If we are regulating things like menstrual blood or urination, that's detracting from a focus on what I think is really the harmful material, and that would be material around child sexual abuse, but also around sexual violence," she added.
There has been no discussion of the censorship provisions of the digital economy bill by MPs during its committee stage, where debate has largely focused on age verification rules. But sources within the adult industry seemed aware.
A spokeswoman for MindGeek, one of the world's biggest pornographic website operators, said the company expected that structures would be created to "maintain the rights of adults to view adult content". She said it was too early to say whether the same CPS guidance would be in place for the Obscene Publications Act by the time the bill becomes law.
"Many of the sexual activities prohibited from R18 [the BBFC's most explicit certification] are normalised and accepted aspects of healthy sexuality, and are proudly celebrated by the feminist, queer and ethical porn movements internationally," she said.
Neither the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, which drafted the bill, nor the BBFC would comment on suggestions that censorship could be relaxed. A spokesman for DCMS said the government's aim is to ensure that the same "rules and safeguards" that exist in the physical world also apply online.
"DCMS has recently indicated that it intends to designate the BBFC as regulator and is considering the most effective way to implement these measures," he added.
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To UK residents: do you still have to tell your ISPs if you want to watch naughty stuff online so they can unlock it?
Well the UK has always been weird about this stuff.
The BBFC is easily the most prude film classification board among all western nations. The UK seems to have pretty schizophrenic approach to "indecency".
@Syt - no, the flood of porn is unabated as far as I can see. That law had no effect at all, in fact I'd assumed they'd dropped it :hmm:
And yet, this this the country that gave us Skins. :hmm:
Female ejaculation doesn't seem like something that belongs on there.
To some women it happens. It's normal. It's natural.
And menstruation? Holy sex education batman.
No caning in the UK? Might as well outlaw tea.
It is all very confusing and I'm not at all sure what constitutes "conventional sex". The government need to issue a handbook with the approved positions and techniques so that we can live up to their moral expectations.
Fun fact: The UK is still banning Homo Eroticus, an Italian comedy about a man with three testicles. So yes, while Salo or the 120 Days of Sodom is permitted in UK, an Italian sexy comedy blockbuster about a ladies' man with three balls and featuring Ira von Fürstenberg is not. :rolleyes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_the_Year_(1971_film)
It's the end of gay porn in the UK. They can hardly claim that two guys going at it is more conventional than a man disciplining his woman.
de Sade is not porn, it is philosophical discourse and socio-political critique.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 23, 2016, 01:22:09 PM
de Sade is not porn, it is philosophical discourse and socio-political critique.
What about the big cake of shit? Critique of the mass-produced fast food industry?
Quote from: Drakken on November 23, 2016, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 23, 2016, 01:22:09 PM
de Sade is not porn, it is philosophical discourse and socio-political critique.
What about the big cake of shit? Critique of the mass-produced fast food industry?
Ouí.
Wow, it's like everybody is going back to the 19th century all of sudden.
I remember reading that Clockwork Orange only became legal in the U.K. relatively recently.
Don't get the caning though. Almost all the caning porn, I my friend, owns is British.
Well as countries continue to de-industrialise their economies, so their society too reverts to a pre-industrial era. Makes sense.
Quote from: Josephus on November 23, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
I remember reading that Clockwork Orange only became legal in the U.K. relatively recently.
Don't get the caning though. Almost all the caning porn, I my friend, owns is British.
I've read it has to do with British public schools.
I sometimes wonder if porn-banning is partly inspired by a desire to keep porn exciting. If more it becomes ubiquitously acceptable, the more it becomes boring. :hmm:
Quote from: Josephus on November 23, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
Don't get the caning though. Almost all the caning porn, I my friend, owns is British.
Classical English school system + their own special brand of shame-based culture = RIGHT WOTS ALL THIS THEN
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 23, 2016, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: Josephus on November 23, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
I remember reading that Clockwork Orange only became legal in the U.K. relatively recently.
Don't get the caning though. Almost all the caning porn, I my friend, owns is British.
I've read it has to do with British public schools.
Wouldn't that make them more understanding of caning porn?
Quote from: The Brain on November 23, 2016, 02:50:01 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 23, 2016, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: Josephus on November 23, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
I remember reading that Clockwork Orange only became legal in the U.K. relatively recently.
Don't get the caning though. Almost all the caning porn, I my friend, owns is British.
I've read it has to do with British public schools.
Wouldn't that make them more understanding of caning porn?
yeah, no I was educated in the British system, I got my share of caning. No, what I meant was how come caning porn is so taboo? Maybe because it implies that teacher/student relationship
Quote from: Martinus on November 23, 2016, 01:44:50 PM
Wow, it's like everybody is going back to the 19th century all of sudden.
If that means Poland no longer exists, that might not be such a bad thing.
I once saw a Polish porn movie...well, my friend did.
It wasn't really Polish. It was Italian but some Polish dude dubbed all the voices. All of them. Even the women.
My friend says.
Polachicks are kinda hott, though.
Quote from: Martinus on November 23, 2016, 01:44:50 PM
Wow, it's like everybody is going back to the 19th century all of sudden.
Better get yourself a beard.
Quote from: The Brain on November 23, 2016, 01:20:49 PM
It's the end of gay porn in the UK. They can hardly claim that two guys going at it is more conventional than a man disciplining his woman.
This is the country that has the Royal Navy. Pretty sure sodomy is a national pastime. :huh:
Quote from: garbon on November 23, 2016, 05:25:21 PM
Quote from: The Brain on November 23, 2016, 01:20:49 PM
It's the end of gay porn in the UK. They can hardly claim that two guys going at it is more conventional than a man disciplining his woman.
This is the country that has the Royal Navy. Pretty sure sodomy is a national pastime. :huh:
Only at sea if the shore isn't in sight. Because then it isn't gay.
Kennebunkport surprise? I don't really want to know what George and Barbara did up there.
Quote from: Syt on November 23, 2016, 05:26:42 PM
Only at sea if the shore isn't in sight. Because then it isn't gay.
:lol: Surf's up