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General Category => Off the Record => Topic started by: Martinus on November 22, 2016, 04:15:26 AM

Poll
Question: Imagine you want to hang a piece of art in your home. Would you rather (all other things being equal)...
Option 1: Hang a painting that speaks to you philosophically even if it is not esthetically pleasing? votes: 5
Option 2: Hang a painting that is esthetically pleasing even if it represents a philosophy you disagree with? votes: 10
Title: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Martinus on November 22, 2016, 04:15:26 AM
Let's assume this is the only choice, and both paintings are equally valuable, cost the same etc.

You can interpret the "philosophy" bit as you like - it may be for example something created by a person you admire or, conversely, someone you disagree with (e.g. a nazi painter). It may also be a religious painting and be either in sync with your religious views (or not). Or perhaps a propaganda piece for your ideology (or one opposed to yours).

Also assume that the painting is not offensive in itself (so not pornographic, or violent).
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Monoriu on November 22, 2016, 04:22:30 AM
I have no paintings or posters in my home or office. 

I don't even know what the philosophy part means, so I will ignore it.  Since I have ignored the philosophy part, if I have to choose one option from the two, of course I'll want a painting that looks good over one that doesn't. 
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Syt on November 22, 2016, 04:22:33 AM
Leaning towards the second option, but it would depend on the gravity of the philophical differences. E.g. despite not believing in God I enjoy sacral art. The aesthetic of communist artists can be quite compelling. I'm not sure if I would put up paintings by nazi artists, though, or - if he were a gifted artist - Charles Manson.
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: garbon on November 22, 2016, 04:23:07 AM
What is the point of this exercise?
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Syt on November 22, 2016, 04:26:59 AM
Quote from: garbon on November 22, 2016, 04:23:07 AM
What is the point of this exercise?

Mart is mildly unsure about something in his life (should I put up this painting by a homophobe, should I read the foreword, is it ok to drink wine with ice cubes) and seeks validation through a poll. It's pretty common for him really.
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Duque de Bragança on November 22, 2016, 04:39:38 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 22, 2016, 04:22:33 AM
Leaning towards the second option, but it would depend on the gravity of the philophical differences. E.g. despite not believing in God I enjoy sacral art. The aesthetic of communist artists can be quite compelling. I'm not sure if I would put up paintings by nazi artists, though, or - if he were a gifted artist - Charles Manson.

Yet you enjoyed the rebel medal award ceremony at Nürnberg.  :P
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: celedhring on November 22, 2016, 04:40:22 AM
I enjoy sacral art but it would feel weird to hang a religious painting at my place. Since it's my home I want the art to somehow be in tune with the kind of person that I am.

I only have movie posters anyway. Incidentally original communist era Polish movie posters are highly sought after. 
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Syt on November 22, 2016, 04:43:53 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on November 22, 2016, 04:39:38 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 22, 2016, 04:22:33 AM
Leaning towards the second option, but it would depend on the gravity of the philophical differences. E.g. despite not believing in God I enjoy sacral art. The aesthetic of communist artists can be quite compelling. I'm not sure if I would put up paintings by nazi artists, though, or - if he were a gifted artist - Charles Manson.

Yet you enjoyed the rebel medal award ceremony at Nürnberg.  :P

The who with the what? :unsure:
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Syt on November 22, 2016, 04:44:46 AM
For the record: the art in my apartment are high quality prints of abstract Kandinsky paintings.
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Martinus on November 22, 2016, 04:47:07 AM
My angle is similar to celed's - while I do not generally reject art because of who created it and can appreciate it even if I do not agree with the "philosophy" behind it (e.g. Catholic religious art), I would probably prefer to have art at my home that says something about myself. So I voted option 1.
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: garbon on November 22, 2016, 05:13:37 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 22, 2016, 04:26:59 AM
Quote from: garbon on November 22, 2016, 04:23:07 AM
What is the point of this exercise?

Mart is mildly unsure about something in his life (should I put up this painting by a homophobe, should I read the foreword, is it ok to drink wine with ice cubes) and seeks validation through a poll. It's pretty common for him really.

I guess so but surely he has more than these two choices at his disposal. :)
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Martinus on November 22, 2016, 05:18:28 AM
Quote from: garbon on November 22, 2016, 05:13:37 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 22, 2016, 04:26:59 AM
Quote from: garbon on November 22, 2016, 04:23:07 AM
What is the point of this exercise?

Mart is mildly unsure about something in his life (should I put up this painting by a homophobe, should I read the foreword, is it ok to drink wine with ice cubes) and seeks validation through a poll. It's pretty common for him really.

I guess so but surely he has more than these two choices at his disposal. :)

Well I just wanted to convert a personal experience into a poll-like choice.

And I know Languish being autistic, so I did not word it as "which one do you prefer" because I would then get responses that "it depends" etc. :P
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Zanza on November 22, 2016, 06:36:57 AM
I would not hang either option and would only hang art that I agree with both on philosophical and esthetical aspects. I mainly have photo art in my apartment.
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Savonarola on November 22, 2016, 09:26:57 AM
Aesthetically pleasing; most of the objet d'art I own are things that I've picked up in my travels.  As a whole that represents a personal philosophy; but with the individual works I'd have to adopt a Marxist-Leninist-Sephardic-Catholic-Jacobin-Animist-Orthodox point of view to make it all work.
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: Josquius on November 22, 2016, 12:26:37 PM
Don't put up a poster of Tom Cruise if you don't want people asking why you like Tom Cruise so much.
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: The Brain on November 22, 2016, 12:52:58 PM
Not the bestest poll but I had to pick number one. I can't see myself having Communist or Nazi art on my walls.
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: viper37 on November 22, 2016, 01:31:55 PM
I still have some some religious icons in my house.  I have a crucifix in two places in my house, and both times I left them there because:
a) they were put there by my mom long ago
b) they match perfectly with their surroundings
c) I'm too lazy to begin searching for other form of arts of the same size that will match the colors of their surroundings.
Title: Re: Visual art and your personal space
Post by: MadImmortalMan on November 22, 2016, 03:31:33 PM
I'm not required to put any art on the wall.

That said, I'm not one of those dudes who will boycott Mel Gibson movies or burn my Smashing Pumpkins albums if Billy says something I disagree with.