So, we had a pretty huge bombshell of a Trump tape coming out a couple days before the second debate. Big enough that it actually got prominent Republicans to call for him to step aside*.
The timing seemed to me pretty ideal. I have to wonder how long someone was hanging onto that tape to release it at the most opportune moment.
And how many more there are to come...you know that isn't the only time he has been recorded saying something horrific...
*-Why is the presumption that if he steps aside Pence goes to the top of the ticket? Pence was not picked by anyone but fucking Trump - who is being asked to step aside for his stunning lack of judgment. Why in the world would the RNC choose the guy he picked as the person to replace him???
I blame CdM. Only he owns the equipment to play tapes.
Well Pence at least looks and sounds 'presidential', so he has that going for him. But he's definitely too conservative to be elected in the general unless he does a hard, phony tack to the middle.
Quote from: Berkut on October 12, 2016, 01:12:02 PM
The timing seemed to me pretty ideal. I have to wonder how long someone was hanging onto that tape to release it at the most opportune moment.
I was wondering the same. Compared to what he usually says, it ain't that bad. And it's from 2005, long before he thought of entering politics.
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And how many more there are to come...you know that isn't the only time he has been recorded saying something horrific...
There are those from the apprentice, but anyone leaking it faces a 5M$ penalty. There's a crowdfunding for that, I heard.
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*-Why is the presumption that if he steps aside Pence goes to the top of the ticket? Pence was not picked by anyone but fucking Trump - who is being asked to step aside for his stunning lack of judgment. Why in the world would the RNC choose the guy he picked as the person to replace him???
I guess that's because there's only one month left to the election and they'll try to salvage the pro-Trump vote with someone he picked while rallying the moderate Republicans tempted to vote Democrat.
At this point, the RNC does not think in terms of obtaining victory but in terms of limiting damages.
Quote from: The Brain on October 12, 2016, 01:26:59 PM
I blame CdM. Only he owns the equipment to play tapes.
Like this one?
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Hey, I remember these! :mad:
Quote from: viper37 on October 12, 2016, 02:00:05 PM
I was wondering the same. Compared to what he usually says, it ain't that bad. And it's from 2005, long before he thought of entering politics.
Trump has mused about running for President going far back as the 1980s.
Hell - Donald Trump actually did run for President in 2000. He sought the nomination for the Reform Party. He actually won both primaries he entered, but withdrew from the race apparently feeling that he wouldn't be able to win the presidential election.
You fuckers laugh, but that reel-to-reel shit is still the bomb. <_<
Anyway, I have to give my Dad his due...for months, I've been saying, "Can you believe Trump said X?", or "How can he get away with saying such-and-such...?", and all this time--even as far back as the Republican National Convention, Dad was like, "Meh...I'm just waiting for the rape charges to come out." Not quite in the center red, but definitely worth some points.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 12, 2016, 02:19:58 PM
that reel-to-reel shit is still the bomb. <_<
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyx4v1QFzhQ
:unsure:
I once used a modified reel-to-reel tape player to measure the neutron fluence profile in a reactor.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 12, 2016, 02:19:58 PM
You fuckers laugh, but that reel-to-reel shit is still the bomb. <_<
Anyway, I have to give my Dad his due...for months, I've been saying, "Can you believe Trump said X?", or "How can he get away with saying such-and-such...?", and all this time--even as far back as the Republican National Convention, Dad was like, "Meh...I'm just waiting for the rape charges to come out." Not quite in the center red, but definitely worth some points.
It begins, here ya go:
QuoteTwo Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately
""He was like an octopus," she said. "His hands were everywhere."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html
Quote from: The Brain on October 12, 2016, 02:24:58 PM
I once used a modified reel-to-reel tape player to measure the neutron fluence profile in a reactor.
Who hasn't?
Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 12, 2016, 11:15:23 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 12, 2016, 02:24:58 PM
I once used a modified reel-to-reel tape player to measure the neutron fluence profile in a reactor.
Who hasn't?
Third grade science was the bomb, wasn't it? :)
The NYT responding to Trump's lawyers:
https://www.scribd.com/document/327479319/Nyt-Letter
Quote from: grumbler on October 13, 2016, 06:41:54 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 12, 2016, 11:15:23 PM
Quote from: The Brain on October 12, 2016, 02:24:58 PM
I once used a modified reel-to-reel tape player to measure the neutron fluence profile in a reactor.
Who hasn't?
Third grade science was the bomb, wasn't it? :)
My school district couldn't afford the uranium. :(
Quote from: Eddie Teach on October 14, 2016, 07:14:07 AM
My school district couldn't afford the uranium. :(
They should have gone with unobtainium, like in the movie.
Time magazine had a line that I thought hit the nail in reference to republican response to the tape:
QuoteThe tape was catalytic not because it showed a new Trump but because it made clear that the old Trump is the only Trump this election is going to see.
No one was surprised at the contents of the tape (Trump has made such boasts before, though less graphically in public), but his response (blanket denial in most cases, with a specific "she's too ugly to be credible" for one case where he thought he could get away with it) appears to be making the wives of GOP officials force their husbands to drop him.
I'm loving the fact that those who have dropped their support now have the enmity of the "right wing" lunatics that make up his base. They were the frog that gave the scorpion a ride.
Ideal timing would have been January of last year. The real problem is a lack of investigative reporting. The tax form thing was a result of someone sending the NYTs a copy of the forms. The video tapes are a result of someone finally getting the bright idea of going into the basement and looking at what Trump said in numerous recorded interviews. The Press gave Trump free, positive exposure for over a year. More than any other Republican candidate. If they had done their job this stuff would have destroyed Trump months ago, and the GOP would have a sane candidate.
Problem is, they actually would not - they would just have a less overtly crazy one.
Cruz was the clear second choice, after all. He is possibly more dangerous than even Trump.
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
Problem is, they actually would not - they would just have a less overtly crazy one.
Cruz was the clear second choice, after all. He is possibly more dangerous than even Trump.
Disagree.
Say what you will about Cruz, or Rubio, or Jeb!, or on the other side Bernie Saunders - but they're all competent politicians with varying resumes of public service. Even Saunders, who I would hate to see elected, at least meets basic minimums of competence.
Trump does not. He seems entirely unsuited to hold office.
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
Problem is, they actually would not - they would just have a less overtly crazy one.
Cruz was the clear second choice, after all. He is possibly more dangerous than even Trump.
Disagree.
Say what you will about Cruz, or Rubio, or Jeb!, or on the other side Bernie Saunders - but they're all competent politicians with varying resumes of public service. Even Saunders, who I would hate to see elected, at least meets basic minimums of competence.
Trump does not. He seems entirely unsuited to hold office.
The other side of that though is that President Trump would spend his whole time tweeting inanely, goosing random women, and gilding the White House, rather than doing any actual governing - so there is, in theory, less active damage he could do.
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
Problem is, they actually would not - they would just have a less overtly crazy one.
Cruz was the clear second choice, after all. He is possibly more dangerous than even Trump.
If Trump was out before the Iowa caucus there is no telling who would have won. It's such a large number of votes that are freed up, you can not make a realistic guess as to where those votes would fall.
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
Even Saunders, who I would hate to see elected, at least meets basic minimums of competence.
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Yeah, garb, I have no idea who "Saunders" is either.
Quote from: Habbaku on October 14, 2016, 04:57:32 PM
Yeah, garb, I have no idea who "Saunders" is either.
I just posted a picture of her. :)
Trump tape sounds like something police would use to cordon off the area around a noxious gas leak.
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 14, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
Problem is, they actually would not - they would just have a less overtly crazy one.
Cruz was the clear second choice, after all. He is possibly more dangerous than even Trump.
Disagree.
Say what you will about Cruz, or Rubio, or Jeb!, or on the other side Bernie Saunders - but they're all competent politicians with varying resumes of public service. Even Saunders, who I would hate to see elected, at least meets basic minimums of competence.
Trump does not. He seems entirely unsuited to hold office.
I didn't say he was less competent, I said he was potentially more dangerous.
Religious fanaticism is bad, even if it is your religion.