QuoteBoris Johnson: UK will help Turkey join the EU
Britain will support Turkey's bid to join the EU despite its June 23 vote to leave the bloc, the U.K.'s foreign secretary said on Monday.
"We may be leaving the European Union but we are not leaving Europe," Boris Johnson said while on an official visit to Turkey, AFP reported. He added the U.K. "will help Turkey in any way."
Johnson sought to reassure the country of Britain's continued support in the wake of an attempted coup in July. The U.K. will stand "shoulder-to-shoulder with Ankara," Johnson said, which has a vital role to play on the world state.
Johnson visited a camp for Syrian refugees and praised Turkey for the "remarkable work" it was doing in dealing with the refugee
Boasting that he was the "proud possessor of a beautiful, very well-functioning Turkish washing machine," Johnson underscored the importance of the trade relationship between the U.K. and Turkey.
"We are lucky in the United Kingdom to be one of the biggest recipients of Turkish goods," he said, according to the Guardian.
Johnson's relationship with Ankara has not always been so friendly. In May, prior to his appointment to the role of foreign secretary, Johnson won a poetry prize for a rude limerick about Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan having sex with a goat.
What the fuck. :huh:
http://www.politico.eu/article/boris-johnson-uk-will-help-turkey-join-the-eu/?utm_content=bufferad56f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
There's chuzpah, and then there's whatever this is.
It's just Boris, it's not like anyone would appoint him to a cabinet pos . . . oh wait.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 30, 2016, 12:03:26 PM
It's just Boris, it's not like anyone would appoint him to a cabinet pos . . . oh wait.
They would if the intention was to set him up to fail, same with Liam Fox and that other Brexiter minister.
He's like trumps little brother.
Quote from: mongers on September 30, 2016, 12:09:16 PM
They would if the intention was to set him up to fail, same with Liam Fox and that other Brexiter minister.
There's an inherent fallacy in the plan of setting someone up to fail by using the mechanism of putting him in a position of great responsibility that effects the lives of millions of people.
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Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 30, 2016, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 30, 2016, 12:09:16 PM
They would if the intention was to set him up to fail, same with Liam Fox and that other Brexiter minister.
There's an inherent fallacy in the plan of setting someone up to fail by using the mechanism of putting him in a position of great responsibility that effects the lives of millions of people.
True. But they put him in the Foreign Office instead.
Hilarious.
Of course, Britain has always been the biggest supporter of Turkey joining.
....but in light of Brexit....especially in light of the Brexiters using the prospect of Turkish membership as part of project fear....ah....
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on September 30, 2016, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: mongers on September 30, 2016, 12:09:16 PM
They would if the intention was to set him up to fail, same with Liam Fox and that other Brexiter minister.
There's an inherent fallacy in the plan of setting someone up to fail by using the mechanism of putting him in a position of great responsibility that effects the lives of millions of people.
You assume the PM puts the interests of the country above strengthening their grip over their own political party.
:lol: Love that Boris dude.
I kinda want to go over to his house with a poster thanking him.
I'm sure that's going to really help Turkey's prospects with the EU. Maybe Boris could offer them the UK's spot?
Quote from: Jacob on September 30, 2016, 03:05:59 PM
I'm sure that's going to really help Turkey's prospects with the EU. Maybe Boris could offer them the UK's spot?
I like the cut of your jib, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Maybe that could be a unorthodox and hard line negotiating position...Let us out of the EU on good terms, or we will push to let Turkey in, and if you won't do so, we will force you to do so to the extent we are able, eg, granting all citizens of Turkey UK passports.
It seems as if he was trying to troll the EU deliberately. Meanwhile, the trend to punish Britain for Brexit seems to be growing in the EU political circles. I wonder where this will end.
The EU is the sort of organisation that would punish a country of 64m people because Boris Johnson is a bellend :hmm: ?
Maybe the brexit voters were right.
If the UK is not in the EU anymore, how can they help Turkey join the EU?
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on September 30, 2016, 04:22:46 PM
The EU is the sort of organisation that would punish a country of 64m people because Boris Johnson is a bellend :hmm: ?
I doubt it, though I don't think Turkish accession looks that likely, with or without Johnson trying to insert himself into the conversation.
QuoteMaybe the brexit voters were right.
I'm sure some of them are right about something :)
Quote from: Monoriu on September 30, 2016, 05:11:41 PM
If the UK is not in the EU anymore, how can they help Turkey join the EU?
It is still in the EU.
Quote from: Valmy on September 30, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: Monoriu on September 30, 2016, 05:11:41 PM
If the UK is not in the EU anymore, how can they help Turkey join the EU?
It is still in the EU.
Other EU countries may consider it problematic for a country that has passed a referendum on leaving the EU to vote on whether another country gets to join. If I were, say, France, and I object to Turkey's entry into EU, I am going to say, this is not your business any more and you can't vote.
Don't they pretty much need unanimity anyway?
I noticed the Turkey leader guy whose name I can't spell is starting to bitch about the 1923 treaty with Greece. Very nice.
I wholeheartedly agree with Turkey joining the EU. Racist fucks, enjoy their debt.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2016, 08:37:17 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with Turkey joining the EU.
Agreed. The common market should be as large as possible, ideally covering the whole world.
The only thing funnier would be watching Israel join. Europeans would flip the fuck out.
I wonder if Turkey had been part of the EU it might have mitigated the refugee crisis.
Turkey is never going to join. You need unanimity. Johnson is just whoring himself out in Ankara, big whoop.
Quote from: mongers on September 30, 2016, 02:18:15 PM
You assume the PM puts the interests of the country above strengthening their grip over their own political party.
Like Cameron. :bowler:
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on September 30, 2016, 04:22:46 PM
The EU is the sort of organisation that would punish a country of 64m people because Boris Johnson is a bellend :hmm: ?
Maybe the brexit voters were right.
The EU isn't the sort of organisation that could punish a country like the UK even if it wanted to. Not that "the EU" is the same as "EU political circles" that Marty referred to. And by "punishing" most mean a hard Brexit without single market privileges, hardly a daunting prospect for many Brexiteers. Probably more of a "punishment" for the Remainers...
I think that a hard brexit is now the most likely outcome, if only because the intermediate arrangements are clearly nowhere near as good as being a member.
The "European political circles" have done their job well, any rerun of the referendum would probably lead to an increased majority to leave. The brexiteers' faces must light up with pleasure whenever the tax-evader Juncker appears on tv.
Somebody's bitter... Blame your countrymen for that mess. The eurocrats and Juncker are not responsible for UK voter whims.
Quote from: Zoupa on October 01, 2016, 02:50:56 AM
Somebody's bitter... Blame your countrymen for that mess. The eurocrats and Juncker are not responsible for UK voter whims.
Actually, words do matter. Said whims often can verify heightened by ill-tempered responses.
Hmmm what?
My point is that Europe stayed out of the referendum campaign. It seems silly to complain that the mean europeans won't play ball with you after you took a giant dump on their field. What would you have the EU do exactly? What's the incentive for the EU to be generous?
Sorry, we here at languish have already had this discussion ad nauseam. You are free to look it up if you'd like to see it. :)
I don't expect the EU to be generous, what worries me is that the UK and the Eu will not even be using enlightened self-interest.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 30, 2016, 08:45:13 PM
The only thing funnier would be watching Israel join. Europeans would flip the fuck out.
I think you overestimate our antisemitism. Last year we had a Jewish person named the Best Dane of 2015. Sure, it was awarded posthumously because he was shot by an antisemit, but the point stands.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on October 01, 2016, 02:30:34 AM
The "European political circles" have done their job well, any rerun of the referendum would probably lead to an increased majority to leave. The brexiteers' faces must light up with pleasure whenever the tax-evader Juncker appears on tv.
The feeling is mutual. When your senior government officials, e.g. your foreign minister, say silly things, I don't lament the UK leaving as much anymore.
Just saw this article that has a video with hundred reasons why the British should embrace Brexit...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/30/100-reasons-to-embrace-brexit/
Some of the many silly things in that video:
Boost English wine, Kent champagne :unsure:
Cheap tennis balls - yeah, that's worth upending forty years of foreign policy
New hangover cures - for the English wines and Kent champagne?
No tampon tax - that's oddly specific
No cookies message - fair enough, that's pretty annoying
And last, but not least, two really ridiculous ones...
A more British EPL, better English team :lmfao: :lmfao:
I think that video is satirical in intent :hmm:
...........at least I hope it is.
Quote from: garbon on October 01, 2016, 02:56:34 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on October 01, 2016, 02:50:56 AM
Somebody's bitter... Blame your countrymen for that mess. The eurocrats and Juncker are not responsible for UK voter whims.
Actually, words do matter. Said whims often can verify heightened by ill-tempered responses.
The EU-crats has the EU's own citizens to worry about in the first place - and thanks to idiocy and myopia of the Brits they also have to worry about more countries following the suit. Trying to convince Brits to stay is much less of a priority than making sure the interests of the remaining EU countries are maintained and no other EU countries decides to leave.
That's why there is absolutely no intention to give Brits, say, an access to the EU single financial or trade markets, if they close the doors to workers from EU member states - and it's as it should be.
Quote from: Martinus on October 01, 2016, 05:46:24 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 01, 2016, 02:56:34 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on October 01, 2016, 02:50:56 AM
Somebody's bitter... Blame your countrymen for that mess. The eurocrats and Juncker are not responsible for UK voter whims.
Actually, words do matter. Said whims often can verify heightened by ill-tempered responses.
The EU-crats has the EU's own citizens to worry about in the first place - and thanks to idiocy and myopia of the Brits they also have to worry about more countries following the suit. Trying to convince Brits to stay is much less of a priority than making sure the interests of the remaining EU countries are maintained and no other EU countries decides to leave.
That's why there is absolutely no intention to give Brits, say, an access to the EU single financial or trade markets, if they close the doors to workers from EU member states - and it's as it should be.
I read that Corbyn is all about freedom of movement but no single market. :D